Should We Credit the Iraq Surge–or the Iraq Deadline?

A few hours before President Obama’s Oval Office speech on Iraq, Brian Katulis and Larry Korb of the Center for American Progress are out with an interesting take on what’s happened in that country since George W. Bush’s much-debated 2007 troop surge. They argue, as others often do, that it wasn’t a relatively minor  boost in American troops that calmed Iraq’s vicious sectarianism. But unlike most other commentators, who argue variously that the civil war had burned itself out and that the Sunni Awakening was a phenomenon unrelated to the surge, they argue that it was growing talk within American policy circles about setting a deadline for troop withdrawals that, in effect, scared the Iraqis straight:

Deadlines for a strategic redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq — initially proposed in 2005 by leaders like former Representative Jack Murtha, championed by Democrats in Congress and candidates in the 2006 midterm elections, and outlined by the 2006 bipartisan Iraq Study Group — all sent the important signal that Iraqis needed to take greater responsibility and ownership of their own affairs. The message that America’s commitment to Iraq was not open-ended motivated forces such as the Sunni Awakenings in Anbar province to partner with the U.S. to combat Al Qaeda in 2006, a movement that began long before the 2007 surge of U.S. forces.

The message that Americans were leaving also motivated Iraqis to sign up for the country’s security forces in record numbers. The “surge” of U.S. troops to Iraq was only a modest increase of about 15 percent — and smaller if one takes into account the reduced number of other foreign troops, which fell from 15,000 in 2006 to 5,000 by 2008. In Anbar province, the most violent area, only 2,000 troops were added.

Among those who embraced this concept–the idea that withdrawal from Iraq served as a a political lever that brought down violence–was Barack Obama. “Removing our troops is part of applying real pressure on Iraq’s leaders to end their civil war,” he argued in late 2007. Assuming he agrees at least in part with Katulis and Korb, the question is whether Obama believes there’s a lesson here that can be applied to that other American war. As the two authors write:

What does this experience tell us for Afghanistan? Not setting a deadline fosters moral hazard and a dysfunctional dependency on the United States. Also, a deadline accelerates the process of helping local actors achieve a more sustainable balance of power within their own country without relying on the crutch of foreign troops. Finally, a deadline focuses attention and motivates actors to take control of their own affairs — they are also essential for getting sometimes sluggish U.S. government bureaucracies to produce results.

Therefore, in his speech Obama should point out that his decision to begin our withdrawal from Afghanistan in the summer of 2011 remains firm and that it offers the best hope for us and the Afghan people because it will motivate them to take control of their own affairs and increase their own security forces….

I suspect Obama basically agrees with this sentiment. I think it’s clear his top generals don’t. Whether and how that apparent disagreement gets remains one of the core quandaries of this presidency.

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  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Credit for what, invading a country illegally, justifying the invasion with lies and then leaving the country in ruins, in worst shape than before the illegal invasion.
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    Let’s party and celebrate the great victory of those who got away free with war crimes.

  • shepherdwong

    Whether and how that apparent disagreement gets remains one of the core quandaries of this presidency.
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    The only reason that should provide a “core quandary” for the President is in the event of treason. Otherwise, “the top generals” should follow their orders and STFU.
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    That is unless the country is now being run by it’s military, along with it’s business interests, i.e., it’s a banana republic.

  • michaelfury
  • formerlyjames

    I was going to comment, but, Derek, you took the wind out of my sail. The destruction of Iraq is a disgrace. Surge, merge, purge. Words don’t mitigate the disgrace. There needs to be a rally asking God’s forgiveness. I am atheist, but whatever floats amongst our reverent is ok with me. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. That’s what the Iraq attack is all about. Check out the NYT today, Brooks telling what a success nation building is, Wolfowitz puffing about how we need to stay forever to make things right. I curse them all.

  • kristiia

    I think you forgot to include the word “resolved” in the last sentence before the word “remains”.

    I agree with what CAP says – as I’m sure Obama does too.

    All the media focus on the “surge” is irritating the hell out of me.

    How about some focus on entering the war in the first place which took the focus of Afghanistan and led to its spiraling out of control to become the mess Obama now has to try to clean up.

    Obama can’t tell the troops and their families – the ones killed, maimed, with PTSD, etc – that all their fighting and suffering wasn’t worth it.

    That lets the Republicans push the surge crap and most of the media is happy to just follow along.

    The decision to invade Iraq was an enormous disaster to the country which we are still struggling to overcome – most especially in Afghanistan, along with the financial damage done by the money we blew in Iraq.

  • Ivy_B

    What kristiia said.

  • formerlyjames

    Exactly. The banter over the Surge tends to mitigate the fact that the invasion was an outrageous illegal act to begin with. I join you in recognition of the loss of American soldiers, but extend that to the far more enormous civilian loss. I have read all of the arguments over the attack, comparisons to Korea, WWII, Viet Nam, every other war, even the Civil War, and all of it is nonsense. This was wrong and for the religionists out there, sinful of damnable proportions. Surge, my ass.

  • mycophile

    ditto

  • textee

    Time magazine actually asks if we should credit America’s victory in Iraq to the anti-military, cut and run, clueless dumb@ass who opposed America’s efforts in Iraq?

    Newsweek magazine just sold for a dollar, and Time magazine wouldn’t find a buyer for more than a dime.

  • michaelfury

    “Wolfowitz puffing about how we need to stay forever to make things right”

    surprise, surprise…

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/unipolar-disorder/

  • 11charlie

    A few other reasons for the drop in violence:

    1. Moqtada al-Sadr ordering a ceasefire to the Mahdi Army in the summer of 2007.
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    2. The fact that much of the sectarian fighting between Shias and Sunnis, which led to the balkanizing of Iraq, had begun to die down by 2007.
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    3. The construction of miles of concrete barriers and walls that physically separated Sunni and Shia neighborhoods.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “I think it’s clear his top generals don’t”
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    When has any “top general” wanted any thing but more?
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    That’s not a rhetorical question. Are there examples?

  • formerlyjames

    Victory? Counting eggs before they hatch? “America’s” effort? Not my America. Newsweek? Time? You got a news stand somewhere? Pffft.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Let’s pat ourselves on the back for the murder of thousands of innocent people and the destruction of their economy and country. We are great. Wasn’t the surge wonderful. They must be so grateful for all we have done for them.

  • kristiia

    “off” Afghanistan, not “of” – whoops

  • daraghmcdowell

    An addendum to point 2

    - the fighting died down because the massive waves of ethnic cleansing during the first 4 years of the war had largely succeeded in their objective of, well, balkanizing Iraq.

  • formerlyjames

    Right. Let’s have a rally on the National Mall. Let’s have a parade of children deformed by the bombs. We can have a great celebration. I saw an propaganda report somewhere on the teevee about how people were enjoying ice cream now in peace. The implication was that under Sadam that wasn’t possible. There should be an international propaganda Olympics, and that would be in contention for the Gold Medal.

  • daraghmcdowell

    Or, and this is just a thought here, American reporters could try and write about Iraq using a cognitive and analytical framework that does not immediately assume all domestic political development in Iraq are the direct result of actions by US forces. This might enable the writing of stories that acknowledge that many events and social/political/economic trends in post-invasion Iraq led to a decrease in violence following 2006, such as the discrediting of AQI due to the politically counterproductive bloodlust of Zarqawi, the development of the Sunni Awakening, the cease-fire of the Mahdi army etc. This would allow American readers (and indeed, Presidents!) to gain more than an Encyclopedia Brittanica level knowledge of Iraq and its culture, aiding in the setting of productive policies.

    Or you could continue stroking your own egos by denying agency to the Iraqis and pretending your armed forces are madeup entirely of omnipotent supermen. Seems to have worked just great for you so far.

  • apr2563

    I couldn’t read Brooks and Wolfowitz this morning. Worse yet, Cheney’s master of evil, David Addington is now working for the Heritage Foundation. He helped define the Cheney/Bush policy:
    We must destroy a society and kill its people in order to rebuild a dysfunctional new society.
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    History will be amazed at this logic. And, America will be remebered in shame.

  • edismeiamhe

    Since Mr. Crowley is an Obama sycophant, I assume that to him George Bush’s action, which Mr Obama decried at the time, was meaningless and that Obama’s brilliant strategy saved the day.

    We will see as the insurgent forces move back into the towns and villages, loping off heads as they go.

    If you swallow Crowley’s vision, you probably will forget that at the time of the surge, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi had declared the war lost, and that further action of the magnitude of the surge would be wasted effort.

    Rather heroic of George Bush to proceed despite the naysayers wasn’t it.

    Ole George couldn’t even say nuclar correctly, but he sure knew how to win a war.

  • formerlyjames

    I’m no expert, but then again I don’t think Dr. Wolfowitz or President Bush 2 are experts either. They created a horrible mess and are responsible for countless deaths and unwarranted destruction. Forgive me, but I would have more respect for Sadam than them. The balance in the Middle East has been unhinged. The USA supported Sadam in his war with Iran. Because the Iranians had revolted against the USA overthrow of a democratically elected leader and the installation of a brutal despot. So now we have much more to worry about than we did before. We have experts like Wolfowitz to guide our way to hell. Don’t bother asking those at the Beck rally about it. They don’t know, but will follow through the fog. Free floating anger is apparently a comfort zone.

  • formerlyjames

    Obviously, you do not know Mr. Crowley. He is a sycophant to none. I don’t care for some of his alarmist writing, but at least I know what he writes about and where is is coming from. Your post is so, so off, off.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Oh well, it’s not like we are actually leaving. We are just giving our staying a new name.

  • newfreedomblog

    Forgive me, but I would have more respect for Sadam than them.

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    Empathy and respect for the Butcher of Bagdad, but none for a President of the United States.
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    Yes Ladies and Gentlemen, this is representative of the liberal / Democrat Party base. No other words are necessary.

  • mycophile

    Swampthings~

    Ever notice how easy it is to extract one primary tint out of a picture of one person composed of a complex of colors, and then to paint tens of millions of people with it?

  • michaelfury
  • pintortwo

    calmed Iraq’s vicious sectarianism..
    scared the Iraqis straight..
    withdrawal from Iraq served as a a political lever that brought down violence..

    .
    What? Iraq is a mess. It seems every day there are more bombings, raids on police outposts, assassinations, army assaults… Iraqi on Iraqi violence. We see this, for example:
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    According to figures released by the Iraqi government on Saturday, the death toll in bombings and other terrorist attacks for July 2010 was the highest since May 2008.
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    Data compiled by the health, defense and interior ministries show a total of 535 people were killed in attacks across the country in July. 396 of them were civilians, 89 were policemen, and 50 were soldiers.
    (link)
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    I linked to a story a few weeks ago about Sunni townspeople applauding the burning bodies of Shiite policemen. When fellow police came to tend to the injured, they couldn’t bring them to local hospitals because of “visciuos sectarianism”- they feared the doctors wouldn’t treat these dying men. This was in a Sunni-Awakened town, but the violence was blamed on al Qaeda in Iraq. Yeah, this has nothing to do with what we know to be AQ, this is a local Sunni movement to break Shiite-dominated police oppression (calling them al Qaeda in Iraq is like calling your cover band “The Doors of Akron”). Possibly these are the very same Sunnis we paid, armed and trained not to attack one another.
    .
    And Iraq still has no government– since their BS March elections, specifically because of sectarian conflict. The Kurds essentially have their own nation because they won’t participate in the Shiite dominated government of Iraq.
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    Where is any success? We retreated to our bases and applaud that there are now less attacks on us. What about reconciliation? And services? -they have very little. There is less oil-flow now than before the invasion. Women’s rights suffer. There are 4.7 million refugees… What a crock.

  • formerlyjames

    rusty, when you’re right, as you always are, very right wing, you can also be at least partially correct on occasion. I apologize for the dramatic over statement, but my point is that it is questionable who caused the most misery in Iraq, Sadam or us. By the way, thanks for the Heavens Gate video. And, yes, I always read your comments, although not all the way through of the longish ones because I usually know what you have to say.

  • allthingsinaname

    What kristiia Said

  • newfreedomblog

    Thank you James, my level of respect for you has increased immensely after that apology.
    .
    I also agree with you as well as to who was actually more destructive, Sadam or the US of A for the Iraqi people
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    However, consider the 30+ years Sadam was the dictator, how many many lives were lost under his reign of terror in Iraq. The vast number of women and young girls who were not only used, but killed just as play-toys of Sadam and his two crazed sons.
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    The children who starved just so he could make some point with the UN.
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    The devastation was nearly unprecedented under Sadam. Before you cast out your judgement, you may want to speak to some Iraqis who lived under Sadam. Ask them who they think was actually the “worst”, you just may be very surprised with their answers.

  • pintortwo

    Newfree, you may be surprised by the answers too…
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    Many adults in Iraq believe the coalition effort has been negative, according to a poll by the Iraq Centre for Research and Strategic Studies and the Gulf Research Center. 90 per cent of respondents think the situation in their country was better before the U.S.-led invasion. (link)
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    The poll is a bit old, but 90% is tough to overcome. Especially considering the recent uptick in violence in Iraq, their inability to form a collaborative government, the unresolved issue of 4.7 million refugees and the persistent lack of basic services to much of the country.

  • pintortwo

    More, on women’s rights:
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    “The status of women here is linked to the general situation,” Maha Sabria, professor of political science at Al-Nahrain University in Baghdad tells IPS. “The violation of women’s rights was part of the violation of the rights of all Iraqis.” But, she said, “women bear a double burden under occupation because we have lost a lot of freedom because of it.
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    “More men are now under the weight of detention, so now women bear the entire burden of the family and are obliged to provide full support to the families and children. At the same time women do not have freedom of movement because of the deteriorated security conditions and because of abductions of women and children by criminal gangs.”
    (…)
    Sabria tells IPS that the abduction of women “did not exist prior to the occupation. We find that women lost their right to learn and their right to a free and normal life, so Iraqi women are struggling with oppression and denial of all their rights, more than ever before.”
    (…)
    “The real ruler in Iraq now is the rule of old traditions and tribal, backward laws,” Sabria says. “The biggest problem is that more women in Iraq are unaware of their rights because of the backwardness and ignorance prevailing in Iraqi society today.”
    - link

  • ricardo4max

    I really liked your post but I wish you would elucidate and expand the information re: Iraq’s social and political dynamics. Unfortunately, the majority of the posters here are full time liberal ideologues and are unable and / or unwilling to wade through the facts, or for that matter, read or comprehend your post. BTW, I think Americans forces are pretty spectacular, as are those of the UK. I don’t think that Americans consider them infallible supermen (or women). Remember that American fighting forces are no longer comprised primarily of professional career soldiers. Many who have fought and died in Iraq and Afghanistan are just ordinary citizens (Bankers Police, mechanics, sales clerks, etc…) that belonged to the reserves or re-enlisted to help fight al-Qaida. We here are very aware of that and recognize not only the many talents that they bring to our military forces but the dedication and sacrifice they exhibit.

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