Speaker Boehner?

RE last sentence: No, it would just make him even oranger.

“Second, I would love to know whom Boehner thinks should take the White House jobs of Tim Geithner, Larry Summers, et al. Obama’s economic team represents mainstream centrist Democratic economic thought.”

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Yes, we definately do not need anymore Centrists. But, the far left’s nutballs like Krugman would be an even poorer choice.
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How about we go after an old Reaganomics type? Better yet, someone who understands the economic policies of Calvin Coolidge. He actually cut spending by the government by over 50% across the board. He then lowered taxes to the lowest level EVER except when they didn’t have an income tax.
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The result was the highest level of growth this country has ever seen.
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But, we know what the libtards will do. Go for more Krugman policies and watch as the entire country goes down the tubes.
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You till didn’t eat enough from Bush’s policies?
And need tax cuts to increase deficit, naming it reduction?
Have You ever been in school to study elementary math?

And it in no way contributed to the Great Depression
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Trickle down economics are great for producing short bursts of insane growth followed by deep recessions. They encourage insane amounts of risk that results in a near total collapse of the economic foundations. They are insanely good for helping the insanely rich get even more insanely rich, the rich moving into the insanely rich category, shrinking the middle class in favor of the rich and the poor, and dropping the poor below the poverty line (if they weren’t already there). If you’re top dog, you’re flying high. If you’re bottom dog, good luck.
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If you believe that’s a better lifestyle, I respect that, but don’t expect me to ever support it. If you’re just stating it because it’s Reagan or because Liberals are fascist socialist communist pigs, it might be time for you to actually learn some economic theory and the actual value of Keynesian economics.

Why, I say we look to the visionary leadership of Martin Van Buren. His stewardship of the economy through the Crisis of 1837 helped avoid a further spiral into systematic collapse.

“Second, I would love to know whom Boehner thinks should take the White House jobs of Tim Geithner, Larry Summers, et al. Obama’s economic team represents mainstream centrist Democratic economic thought.”

I thought Obama could do everything himself, why does he need a team of losers? If he has time to create a “How-To” video for a new fed govt website, he should take five more minutes from his busy golf schedule and fix this damn economy !

“How about we go after an old Reaganomics type”
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David Stockman?

Homocrats will always try to divide people on the basis of race, class etc..

The question is not “whether to let tax cuts expire for the ‘rich’(?)”

but, “Do we think American people should let federal govt spend their money, or, should the people spend more of their money that tehy earn?”

I’ll take “should the people spend more of their money that they earn for one thousand, Alex”

“Homocrats ”
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Does your mommy know you’re using her computer?
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(And on the slim-to-none chance that you’re an adult. Grow up; you should have outgrown homophobic insults in your pre-teens.)

Milas:
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Actually my first economics class was with Alan Greenspan in 1974-75 at American University in Washngton DC.
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But, thank you for your suggestions anyways.
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You are correct that the Bush Tax Cuts were unfunded with other cuts to other programs. He also funded both Wars without additional cuts.
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You see in other times of War, people would sacrifice. Do you know how to sacrifice, Milas? Or are you one of the libtards who scream out, “No you don’t, you are not going to cut my welfare program or my entitlement checks, I’ll be damned if you do”
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The Demonuts would have never allowed such expansive cuts to have been made to their precious entitlement programs, never in a million years. But guess what?
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They will be making those cuts now because there isn’t anymore money left in the Treasury. Nada, zilch. The Chinese are ready to shut off any further borrowing, so what will Obambi do next? RAISE TAXES. He has no other choice. But, he has to get a soon to be Republican controlled Congress to go with him on that one. The ONLY option will be to cut services and programs. ALL those Democrat programs which have kept them in office for the past 60 odd years.
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I do hope you know how to still work, Milas. If not, you will starve!!

How about we go after an old Reaganomics type? Better yet, someone who understands the economic policies of Calvin Coolidge. He actually cut spending by the government by over 50% across the board. He then lowered taxes to the lowest level EVER except when they didn’t have an income tax.
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The result was the highest level of growth this country has ever seen.
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Seriously, you’re just spoofing us now, aren’t you? No one can be stupid enough to recommend we follow the Republican tax cut policies that led directly to the Great Depression.
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You sound like someone who jumps off the Empire State Building and, as he plummets to the ground, brags about how fast he’s moving.

no, actually learned that from your mommy .. now, go fcuk yourself.

“The chief business of the American people is business.”
- Calvin Coolidge.
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Fun fact: His Secretary of Commerce was Herbert Hoover.

I really hope Rusty and darkskinned have success with their plan to fund the Defense Department with a bake sale now that they don’t want the mean old gubmint to use any tax money.
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Good luck with that, hippies!

“now, go fcuk yourself.”
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the GOP in all its intellectual glory. This is all they have to offer. Childish name-calling and invectives.

“How about we go after an old Reaganomics type”
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David Stockman?
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Nope. Even the champion of Reaganomics thinks that today’s Republicans have gone insane with the tax cut fetish:

IF there were such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians, the Republican push to extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy filing. The nation’s public debt — if honestly reckoned to include municipal bonds and the $7 trillion of new deficits baked into the cake through 2015 — will soon reach $18 trillion. That’s a Greece-scale 120 percent of gross domestic product, and fairly screams out for austerity and sacrifice. It is therefore unseemly for the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, to insist that the nation’s wealthiest taxpayers be spared even a three-percentage-point rate increase.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01stockman.html?_r=1
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I can’t wait for the conservative outrage machine to insist that Stockman never really understood what Reaganomics was all about.

Who the fcuk is GOP?

Ladies and Gentlemen, the GOP in all its intellectual glory. This is all they have to offer. Childish name-calling and invectives.
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Come on, that’s not fair. They also do a terrific job at destroying the economy every time they get in power.

Seriously? You really are a preteen, aren’t you?

That’s why I brought him up Kevin.
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“Actually my first economics class was with Alan Greenspan in 1974-75 at American University in Washngton DC”
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This sounded like so much of the rest of The Physician’s “biography” that I looked around for some evidence of Greenspan at American University.
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None found.

“Were Obama to throw those guys out, the only plausible alternative would be an even more Keynsian, stimulus-oriented bunch.”

Hate to think what would happen if they actually hired people who knew what they were doing.

@kevin

Do you have a job? or are you some kinda democratic political consultant, or, a journalist, maybe?

“Speaker Boehner?”
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For being scary, that’s right up there with “President Palin”.

Thanks Paul. Does that mean that earljr and NewRusty might be less than truthful? I want to see News transcript. Not a copy. The real thing. He might also have been born in Kenya. I want to also see his birth certificate.

Yes, no and no.

“Speaker Boehner?”

Anybody after 4 years of speaker Pelosi, is an upgrade! I think a pet animal would do a better job than her.

Besides, as long as the-destroyer-in-chief is in charge, how does it matter who the speaker of the house is?

2012 can’t get here sooner!

Funny, I was struck by that comment too and looked it up as well. Nothing on Google, nothing in Maestro, nothing anywhere.
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Now, Greenspan was the head of Ford’s CEA, so he was in Washington at the time and it’s possible that he was also teaching a class at AU at the time, but you’d think there would be some kind of record of it.
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If it is true, though, I think we’ve discovered a hidden reason for the failure of Ford’s economic policies. The reason he could only come up with those lame “WIN: Whip Inflation Now” buttons was that the head of his Council of Economic Advisers was having to hold Rusty’s hand in class, trying to get him to understand basic economics.

Suggestion For Boehner: Confiscate the money Meg Whitman is using (over 100 million so far) to advertise everywhere (including here and everyday in N. CA) and Fiorini’s less but impressive advertising costs and apply it to the deficit. They are going to lose anyway, so put the money to some good use. I know it is a relatively small amount but who knows, by the time Whitman is through, it might actually make quite a dent.

“Over-confidence”

.. another reasons Dems are in for some good ol a$s-kicking come this November!

.. or, is it denial?

Well the Republican mantra is that money is speech. Grumpy McCain has spent a paltry $20 million on his campaign. Thank God for all those tax cuts for the higher income folks. Putting Americans to work producing campaign ads and of course buying time to show those that aren’t given a free ride on the web.

Well, Republicans atleast spend their own money..

As, oppesed to the democrats, who want to buy votes using tax payers’ money, no wonder they always want to raise taxes on everybody.

Apparently, you can never have anough to buy votes.

Right, when Republicans passed Medicare Part D — the biggest entitlement program since the Great Society — they didn’t use a dime of taxpayer money, they paid for it all out of their campaign contributions.

Let’s see, just because Repulicans were bankrupting the country 6 years ago, (and got their aSs kicked in subsequent elections), were are not to question Democrats speding even more money ??

So, how exactly does thi logic works? Demmocrats were supposed to change all of that irresponsible behaviour or repubs, or, was that just a pipe dream?

Boehner can whine all he wants, but more and more evidence rolls in about the positive impact of the stimulus measures:

The massive stimulus package boosted real GDP by up to 4.5 percent in the second quarter of 2010 and put up to 3.3 million people to work, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said on Tuesday.
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CBO’s latest estimate indicates that the stimulus effort, which remains a political hot potato ahead of the November congressional elections, may have prevented the sluggish U.S. economy from contracting between April and June.
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Economists surveyed by Reuters expect that revised numbers due out on Friday will show that the economy grew at an anemic 1.4 percent pace during that time period — less than the boost of at least 1.7 percent that the stimulus provided, according the CBO estimate.
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The stimulus package, passed in March 2009 in the midst of the deepest recession since the 1930s, raised employment by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million jobs during that time period, CBO estimated.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/08/stimulus_boosted_gdp_by_up_to_45_percent_in_2q_201.php?ref=fpa

Uh, “behaviour”?
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Ricardo, is that you?

surprisingly, you didn’t post any WH links ..

CBO numbers have as much credibility these days as does Obama.. This administration does a godd job of drafting legislations that gets favorable scores from the CBO..

Didn’t CBO numbers indicate that the Obamacare will acually reduce the fedral govt deficit ?

I’m afraid, nobody outside of the Time bloggers think that the CBO numbers make any sense.

It’s like Obama giving himself A- or something in a tv interview. The guys is a joke!

Who the fcuck is Ricardo?

stick to the point man (in case, you have one, that is)

Funny, conservatives used to cite the CBO as the gold standard for judging an economic proposal’s worth … right up until the time the numbers looked better for Democratic proposals than the Republican ones.
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http://washingtonindependent.com/79785/cbo-was-definitive-word-on-gops-health-care-reforms

GOP = Republicans, stands for Grand Old Party. Used by pretty much everyone on both sides of the aisle.

Kid, look up concepts of separation of powers, balance of powers, and the distinction between the legislative and executive branches. There was a time where the Speaker was considered to be more powerful than the President.

.. give me one govt entity that Obama has not destroyed?

He has to know that every time he gives a televised interview or comment the orange tan totally distracts from any point he attempts to make.

Obama’s destroyed a government entity? Well, I suppose he killed MMS….
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Anyways, the CBO said that while expenditures will increase to implement health care reform, the taxes created by the health care bill will exceed the cost of those expenditures. Since income is greater than expenses to implement the law, the CBO came to the conclusion that the deficit was reduced by the law of “BASIC MATHEMATICS”. You could dispute that taxes went up as much as expected, you could dispute that expenditures went up as little as expected, you could certainly dispute whether it is reasonable to increase taxes or expenditures for whatever philosophical reason you choose (and there are plenty of valid ones). You cannot dispute the claim that if income goes up faster than expenses then your deficit is reduced.
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On a side note, you’re usage of swears and personal attacks contributes nothing to the debate beyond proving your own immaturity. I know how it makes it feel like it’s helping your argument – I certainly felt that way back when I was still in high school – but I can assure you that people will take both you and your arguments far more seriously when you don’t use such childish antics.

Hey, if he’s speaker, it’ll be the first non-white American speaker in the country’s history.

Citrus-American

“…the orange tan totally distracts from any point he attempts to make.“.
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If you read anything he has to say, pretty soon you start to think that it’s probably intentional.

Better yet, someone who understands the economic policies of Calvin Coolidge.
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Calvin Coolidge? You cannot be serious !!
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But, by all means, NewfreeinPA, why dont you buy a time machine and travel back in time? While you are at it, can you please wind back our defence spending to pre-WWII era?
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Also, a lil bit of trivia from the Coolidge era:

By 1927, only the richest 2% of taxpayers paid any income tax

BREAKING NEWS: The Onion is reporting that Time magazine will release a new version. Unlike the current Time magazine that targets children, the new version will be targeted at adults. The Onion is also reporting that Joe Klein will be leaving Time magazine to assume a role on something called Dragonfly TV. Be sure to check out the great picture of Klein. http://www.theonion.com/video/time-announces-new-version-of-magazine-aimed-at-ad,17950/

1) http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/24/our-new-business-plan/
2) Considering Textee’s normal opinion of Time, I can’t help but wonder if he truly understands what the Onion is…..

If you don’t understand reality, you can’t understand parody. It’s why “conservatives” can’t do comedy.

Good news, they will have atleast half dozen regular readers who post here frequently!

Is Axelrod gonna be the new Editor-in-chief? Sometimes I wonder if Axelrod and Joe Klien are the same people. there is practically no difference in BS level they spew.

Besides, looks like Time is gonna need a Fed govt bailout pretty soon, Axelrod at helm will come in handy then

“but I can assure you that people will take both you and your arguments far more seriously when you don’t use such childish antics”

I expect no less for most people over here, they have some blinders on just as their masters they serve!

I wouldn’t worry about that, you shouldn’t either.

‘Second, I would love to know whom Boehner thinks should take the White House jobs of Tim Geithner, Larry Summers, et al.’
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Just a shot in the dark but a reporter could call his office and pose that question. But that wouldn’t be as much fun as us all just wondering.

Heh.
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This post really does boil down to “Hey I was watching TV”

… and your point being?

You are correct that the Bush Tax Cuts were unfunded with other cuts to other programs. He also funded both Wars without additional cuts.
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Bush “funded” both wars with loans from China. That’s one of the reasons we are in the mess we’re in now.

World famous Economist and eternal tanned Boozing Boehner should stay out of saloons and salons. In a recent interview he stated that it was essential that Obama not eliminate the tax break for the wealthy. When he was asked what effect having the tax cut not being eliminated would have on the economy he hemmed and hawed and mumbled similar to his colleague in the Senate, Mumbling McConnell. Ohio has been known to send some pretty pathetic individuals to Congress. He joins the best of them dating back to Wayne Hays and the one who is in prison now (can’t remember his name), Can’t remember, was he a used car salesman before being elected to Congress?????

NFB: You and other Republicans are aware that America did vote in Obama right? It’s absolutely laughable that I think I just read someone suggest Obama (a Democrat in case we’re not clear) appoint Republicans to run his economy.
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America did vote him into office, regardless of what you think of him, Unless Republicans want to repeal that part of the Constitution too, it should not come as that big of surprise that he’s actually going to run things from the perspective that got him elected.

Why not just go for the author of Reaganomics, himself, David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan’s director of the Office of Management and Budget? I think he recently indicated he is interested in the job:

.http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10

Thanks for the link mycophile. BTW, if you want to post a link, you can do one of two things: Paste it into the comment box or use the “a href” tag to embed the link. See it here:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_a.asp

That’s a great idea, to look for proof that Greenspan taught at that university for those years.
I’m pretty certain I’ve seen rusty make that claim before, it makes me wish I’d thought of that.

Boehner does deserve credit for serving up a few specific proposals
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So, I kinda black out every time I try to read something that Boehner says or writes. Did he actually have any specific proposals?

I guess newfreeinpa did not get the memo that his “former teacher ” Greenspan is against extending Dubya’s tax cut for the millionaires:
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38487969/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts
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MR. GREENSPAN: Look, I’m very much in favor of tax cuts, but not with borrowed money. And the problem that we’ve gotten into in recent years is spending programs with borrowed money, tax cuts with borrowed money, and at the end of the day, that proves disastrous. And my view is I don’t think we can play subtle policy here on it.

MR. GREENSPAN: They do not.

Another homeless troll finds at least a temporary home. OK, we fed him. Now let’s tuck him in for the night.

“Citrus-American”
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Ftw. Very clever.

Off topic: But Onion news did a great article on time – worth seeing.

Election Returns: Baldy won the FL GOP governor primary. Boy, goes to show you how far people with million-dollar golden parachutes can go. Also, McGrampy won in Arizona; no one mentioned the delicious touch of irony regarding Miss Prissy’s endorsement.

Statement from the Republican Governors’ Association:
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“Intraparty struggles are often difficult to watch, and the contest in Florida has been a good example of that. That said, the primary is over, Rick Scott is the nominee, the general election has begun, and our party now looks forward.
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“Alex Sink has had months to run in a clear field and has not gained any traction, showing that her message has failed to connect with voters. She represents the policies of Washington, D.C. Democrats: higher taxes, runaway spending and greater intrusion into the everyday lives of Floridians.
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“Couple her flagging campaign with the legitimate candidacy of Bud Chiles [son of the former governor], and there is a real battle being waged for Democratic votes in Florida.”
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Not exactly a thrilling endorsement of YOUR OWN candidate, is it?

By not offering a ringing endorsement, the RGA’s pretty much saying it can’t stand the guy. (Chiles is running as an independent a la Crist.)

Thx Sacred. ‘Sounds a bit better than Rawhide Leather-American.

CRACKING NEWS: Textee places car in R, goes backwards.

On the one hand, I hate McCain and want him gone.
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On the other hand, I love seeing Tea Party candidates eat sh!t.

darkskinned,
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“I thought Obama could do everything himself, why does he need a team of losers? If he has time to create a “How-To” video for a new fed govt website, he should take five more minutes from his busy golf schedule and fix this damn economy !”
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But it would interfere with his Vacation Schedule and Fund Raising Trips.
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He’s much too busy to spend all that time on the economy and other problems.
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He has an experienced staff of Professors and Public Sector Professionals to do the dirty work of governing.
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Of course since only 6% of his Advisors have any Private Sector Business experience he really doesn’t know what to do anyway.

Obama does not need to be “Presidental” any longer. His stimulus bill worth in excess of 880 BILLION dollars has systematically destroyed this country. 233 years of hard work by all those who have come before Obama, and he destroys this great Nation is just ONE year.
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Nothing short of amazing. THIS is what the people see, this is why they will toss out the currently Demorat controlled Congress in November, and ten Obama gets the boot in 2012.
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End of story.

Murkowski went down?
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I guess we will find out in a week, give or take.

“And it in no way contributed to the Great Depression”

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Actually no it did not. Anyone who has the capability of reading comprehension can look at that period of history and understand the Depression was not the effect from the cause of the fiscal policies of the Coolidge Administration. It was a result of the lax and non-existent banking regulations at that time period however.
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But why are we seeing depression-like results now? Why hasn’t the nearly 1 TRILLION stimulus not stimulated anything short of a few bridges and road projects?
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Quite the opposite. You can throw out your Keynesian economic policy manuals, it is not working this time around. The next few generations will be studying this time period asking themselves, what happened? They will be looking at all of the spending, how much Obama has put this country into massive debt, again MASSIVE debt not just the mere debt George Bush II and the Democrat Party controlled Congress put us into, and then say, “gee, were they really that stupid? You can’t spend money you don’t have”.
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Just like when you have maxed out your credit cards. The hole you have dug for yourself is one which you will never get out of. The only solution is bankruptcy. We are ladies and gentlemen, BANKRUPT as a country.
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As the dominoes begin to fall, one State after another which are so far gone in debt, the real crash of 2010 / 2011 will be seen. Is there a reason why we are seeing those States with the worst fiancial pictures, BLUE States, “Progressive States”, who have massive entitlement programs teetering on the brink a coincidence? I don’t think so.
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It is time to go out and buy gold. It is your last chance before the impending CRASH.
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http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/08/23/yes-folks-hindenburg-omen-tripped-again/

I suspect because of his spelling that Kevin picked up on and not having any idea what GOP means he is in a different time zone and already down at the time you wrote this.

I’m a little late in joining this “debate,” but I couldn’t pass up this gem by newfree:

“You are correct that the Bush Tax Cuts were unfunded with other cuts to other programs. He also funded both Wars without additional cuts.
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You see in other times of War, people would sacrifice. Do you know how to sacrifice, Milas? Or are you one of the libtards who scream out, ‘No you don’t, you are not going to cut my welfare program or my entitlement checks, I’ll be damned if you do’”
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So in “times of war, people would sacrifice.” Let’s review a little history. How did we “sacrifice” during WWII? From our friend, Wikipedia:
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“Federal tax policy was highly contentious during the war, with Roosevelt battling a conservative Congress. Everyone agreed on the need for high taxes to pay for the war. Roosevelt tried unsuccessfully to increase tax on incomes over $25,000, while Congress enlarged the base downward. By 1944 nearly every employed person was paying federal income taxes (compared to 10% in 1940).
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Many controls were put on the economy. The most important were price controls, imposed on most products and monitored by the Office of Price Administration. Wages were also controlled. In addition, the military imposed priorities that largely shaped industrial production.”
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So the historical precedent for wartime sacrifice is higher taxes, wage and price controls, control over industrial production and, of course, rationing. None of which Bush did in this case during this “war.”
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Apparently Bush and newfree attended the same economics classes…

Oh, he’s in a different zone, alright…

Cliff,
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“On the one hand, I hate McCain and want him gone.”
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Your expression of hate for McCain personally show what a little, ignorant person you really are. It’s loons like you that make all Liberals look like idiots.

Could someone draw me a chart on how the heck we get from childish antics to blinders?

When you guys type these insane Birch Society rants, do you hum “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” as you’re doing it?

You asked: “how does it matter who the speaker of the house is?”
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I’m providing the details. The budget must be approved by Congress. The budget that runs the entirety of the Federal Government. The budget that determines how much funding various programs ranging from military to health care to treasury must be done with the approval of Congress. All legislation that Obama wants to pass must first get approved by Congress. To that extent, you need the approval of a majority of the House of Representatives (and the Senate, but we’re talking about the Speaker). Considering the Speaker comes from the party with the most seats, considering that nearly every seat is taken from either party, and considering the amount of party-line voting that is occurring, anything from the ability to run the government to the ability to improve the government (or destroy depending on your point of view) will likely need to be done with at least some support from the Speaker.
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So how does it matter who’s Speaker? That’s how. I thought a little education and learning might help you. Maybe it would give you a chance to actually provide knowledge to these discussions we have. But you seem to be allergic to learning and trying to improve yourself. I only hope that outside of the world of anonymity you actually take the time to think for yourself.

Little Kevie doesn’t like to hear the truth. It doesn’t fit well into his isolated little make believe world.
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Time for your nap Kevie.

I love how when the CBO says something that backs the republican agenda its gospel, but when it backs a democratic plan, or explains how a republican plan wouldn’t work, its “unreliable”.

Little Kevie doesn’t like to hear the truth. It doesn’t fit well into his isolated little make believe world.
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Time for your nap Kevie.

This is how you raise the level of discourse? After all your posturing and preaching, this is how you respond to someone? Next time you feel the urge to lecture someone about civility and discourse, save it because you’re nothing but a pathetic old hypocrite.