Snowden Wants to Come Home

But only stronger whistle-blower protection laws will allow that to happen, he says

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Glenn Greenwald / Laura Poitras / The Guardian / Reuters

NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden in a still image taken from video during an interview by the Guardian in his hotel room in Hong Kong on June 6, 2013

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden says he wants to return to the U.S. to resolve his standoff with American authorities over classified data he leaked last year, but that he can’t do so until he can be sure he’ll get a fair trial.

“Returning to the U.S., I think, is the best resolution for the government, the public, and myself, but it’s unfortunately not possible in the face of current whistleblower protection laws, which through a failure in law did not cover national security contractors like myself,” he said in a live online chat Thursday.

Snowden said that unless the law changes, he would not be allowed to properly defend himself against charges he violated the century-old Espionage Act. “This is especially frustrating, because it means there’s no chance to have a fair trial, and no way I can come home and make my case to a jury.”

(MORE: Obama Sets New Limits on NSA Snooping)

Earlier in the day Thursday, Attorney General Eric Holder said in an interview with MSNBC that he might “engage in a conversation” with Snowden if he took responsibility for leaking secrets. Holder rejected the idea that Snowden might be a candidate for amnesty. During Thursday’s live chat Snowden did not offer a comment on Holder’s statement.

During most of the live chat, which took place on the website freesnowden.is, Snowden offered his opinions about the state of mass surveillance in the U.S. and President Obama’s proposed reforms to NSA programs. Those reforms were announced in a highly anticipated speech last week, ahead of the publication today of a damning report from the government’s own Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which called the NSA’s so-called “bulk collection” programs ineffective and illegal.

The President proposed changes primarily in oversight of the NSA’s surveillance programs but left intact the essence of “bulk collection,” in which the phone records of millions of Americans are gathered. Snowden argued this kind of mass surveillance ought to be scrapped entirely.

“When even the federal government says the NSA violated the constitution at least 120 million times under a single program, but failed to discover even a single ‘plot,’ it’s time to end ‘bulk collection,’ which is a euphemism for mass surveillance,” Snowden said. “There is simply no justification for continuing an unconstitutional policy with a 0% success rate.”

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111 comments
chuck20002004
chuck20002004

If Snowden's behavior is his real intention, it seems that he has little knowledge about China and Russia. Although USA has some problems and bad things in the society,  the other two countries have more. They are not your savors either.

AlanMacDonald
AlanMacDonald

Obama, King, Chertoff, and the whole Disguised Global Empire only 'posing' as the US is trying to do to Putin and Russia what Christie was trying to do to political opponents with the George Washington Bridge shut down ---- to use pressure to shake-down the country giving asylum to Snowden.

It is becoming very obvious that Obama and the US Empire are essentially threatening Russia with shutting down the lanes of wealthy tourists going to the Olympics unless Russia plays ball and extradites Snowden to the US for a quick 'show-trial' and imprisonment or worse.



Best luck and love to the fast expanding 'Occupy the
Empire' educational and non-violent revolutionary movement against
this deceitful and Disguised Global EMPIRE, which can't so easily
be identified as wearing Red Coats, Red Stars, nor funny looking
Nazi helmets ---- quite YET!

Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
Over
Violent ('Vichy' disguised)
Empire,

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

We don't merely have a domestic tyranny and NSA SPYING problem,
or a gun/fear problem, or an MIC problem, or an 'Austerity'
problem, or an expanding wars problem, or a 'drone assassinations'
problem, or a vast income & wealth inequality problem, or a
Wall Street 'looting' problem, or a Global Warming and
environmental death-spiral problem, or the world's largest
political prisoner problem, or a crappy un-healthy insurance
problem, or, or, or ... ad nauseam --- but what we REALLY havea
hidden VEMPIRE cancerous tumor of GLOBAL EMPIRE which is the prime
CAUSE of all these underlying, related, and mere 'symptom problems'.

NJR
NJR

There is nothing brave or courageous about being a traitor to our Country. America has avenues and laws that enable a 'whistleblower' to come foward. Snowden not only DID NOT avail himself of that option; but admitted his original intent to steal info and sell it. His conceit that HE alone was the arbiter of what should be divulged in contrast to the oath that he betrayed by itself brands him a traitor. His heinous act deserves the appropriate trial and punishment

MMadera
MMadera

Open the door for this traitor to come back, and no secret will be safe in the affairs of our security. Let him be in Russia, eventually, the idiot will commit suicide.  In this time and age, we must accept to give in on some of our rights in order to secure our country. We cannot have it both ways.  Of course, if some big terrorist act is performed on our country, to hollers and screams will never end. Then who will we blame?

renfieldc
renfieldc

Leaving out sycophantic politicians who infest the world, most countries, like the UK, Australia, Germany and scores of others, consider Edward Snowden a brave and courageous man.

poo-on-yoo
poo-on-yoo

Ain't it just too bad that Snowden wants to come home.  I think Russia is a much more appropriate place for him...  after all, he's been working for them for quite some time now.

chacalcdn1
chacalcdn1

He should not have citizenship.he had it and betrayed it.

Let him relish his 15 min. of fame where he is.

If he was drowning I would throw him a big rock.

Is he childish enough to think he will be sent to his room...

DariaL
DariaL

He needs punishment for his treason and never seeing his family again is much less than he deserves. I have no respect for his actions. He chose to go to communist countries to protect him and he can stay there and learn what it really means to be in a country that engages in spying against their citizens.

HangDiver
HangDiver

Can't give him amnesty. If we did, we'd open the flood gates for every potential contractor/govn't employee who has access to classified material to release that data, get notoriety, and then seek a book deal.

mpstime
mpstime

Dear Traitor,

You no longer have a home in the US.  You betrayed your country.  You could have handled it a different way, but you chose to break the law and betray your country.  The only way you should be accepted "home" is to spend the rest of your life in prison...and that's  being kind because the penalty for treason is death.  Enjoy Russian winters traitor!

gornisht
gornisht

A turncoat, loser, whistleblower, traitor, whimp, and a wet piece of spaghetti, and he is calling the shots. Is Snowden really the messiah in disguise?


The bleeding hearts in the Obama administration will change the laws to accommodate this piece of garbage. If this happens, then one should expect Pollard to be released.

Arimathean
Arimathean

A whistleblower is one who gets information in the course of their work that they feel obligated to turn over to the authorities.  Snowden is a sensationalist who took the NSA job for the purpose of leaking secrets, which he did without any judgment or discretion.  He can cool his heels in Russia for life.

lancasterpausa
lancasterpausa

I would be happy to be the one to put a bullet in Snowden's head, no charge.  One bullet, No trial.  A bargain for the American Tax payer.  He has caused a lot of grief to the American Government and made us more unsafe from terrorists.  Death to Snowden!!

Ruleoflaw10
Ruleoflaw10

This traitor has done our country a great disservice. He has betrayed every American, although there is a significant group of naive, severely misinformed, and generally ignorant people who think he is a hero. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Those who think the NSA is the only issue prove their ignorance. He revealed many legitimate secrets to our adversaries for whoever would give him protection. The people who think of Snowden as a hero probably think the same of Benedict Arnold.

Prosecute him for treason.

DeanJackson
DeanJackson

Part I


Ask yourself: How did Edward Snowden fly directly from Hawaii to COMMUNIST Hong Kong* without his passport being flagged by TSA computers, and TSA computers then failing to notify FBI Counterintelligence computers? Those holding Top Secret clearance can't travel to a Communist location UNLESS given permission to, and Snowden's arrival in Russia helped to increase Russia's prominence in the world (how did that happen!), while decreasing the prominence of the United States. Just what Moscow wanted, meaning we were snowed by the Snowden operation.


Recall last September Moscow ran with the Syrian chemical weapons' surrender initiative, where the United States wanted to bomb Syria into the stone age? Again, Russia came off playing the part of the  rational and mature nation, while the United States came off again playing the part of the unstable, rouge state, looking for any opportunity to attack nations it doesn't like.


This is the goal of Moscow & Allies, to isolate the United States by tasking Washington, DC to play the international bully with Nazi overtones; to date, over one-million civilians world-wide have been murdered via  the “War on Terror” operation Moscow & Allies assigned Washington, DC. 


Soon, the Eurozone will collapse and Europe will join Russia in a new union, from the "Atlantic to Vladivostok". When this occurs two objectives will be met by Communist strategists, (1) the further isolation of the United States; and (2) the disbanding of NATO.


Other points of interest on this subject…


If you haven't been keeping up with the latest revisions to the Edward Snowden operation: Snowdon was extraordinary alright, but not in computer skills. He was expert in mesmerism, getting anyone to give up their computer sign-in accounts and passwords, even though all new intelligence officers/contract intelligence employees are warned to never do so, and that no such requests will be made:


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/net-us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE9A703020131108


The revision was necessary because it's impossible to have accessed the varied compartmentalized classified data said to have been pilfered by Snowden. 


Of course, we then have the logs no-show! When any request is made on a computer, a log of the action is generated and saved. There are no NSA logs of Snowden's pilfering! And it's impossible to bypass a log, since a log doesn't exist UNTIL one performs a function on the computer, and then it's too late to bypass! As for deleting logs, well we're back to Snowden's mesmerizing again, this time mesmerizing people (he would have no contact with) to give up their computer sign-in accounts and passwords and the specific delete passwords for each type of compartmentalized data. Snowden would also need to know the correct procedures for deleting logs!


http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-covered-tracks-2013-8


Now, take a look at the following pictures from Russia...


Take a look at these pictures out of Russia…


http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Antonov-An-12BK-PPS/1584360/L/


and


http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/su-47-berkut-russia/p6041-su-47-berkut.html


Then for Russian Naval vessels, take a look at what's still appended to the bows (enlarge picture)...


http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/9225/


Those pictures were taken in 2009, 2004 and 2013, respectively, not before the "collapse" of the USSR. As you can see, the distinct Soviet era nationality emblem of the Communist Party...the distinct-designed Red Star... is still present. That political symbol of the Soviet government would have been immediately removed in early 1992 if the "collapse" of the USSR were genuine. As the legal emblem of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the distinctive Red Star nationality emblem can only be present if Communists are still in power in Russia and the other 14 republics that made up the USSR.


Take a look at what's still on Aeroflot aircraft...


http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2013-8/31/316500.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/316500/vp-bdn-aeroflot-airbus-a319/&h=853&w=1200&sz=342&tbnid=LpEalOG0f8GrcM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=142&zoom=1&usg=__G489DWC7zsP5bnmGg5-Pi0QB8xs=&docid=xUpoGn9FHxnMDM&sa=X&ei=evRRUtGuJNGs4APLsoDICg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwAA


Note the Soviet emblem of the hammer & sickle stenciled on the Aeroflot aircraft's fuselage!


Now, for the main paper of the Russian Ministry of Defense…


http://www.redstar.ru/


“Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian (no kidding!) for "Red Star", the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper's official designation is, "Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense." Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era masthead, one of which pictures Lenin's head, the man who removed the independent Russian nation from the map, supplanting it within the new nation called the USSR (the USSR being the nation that was to one day include all the nations of the Earth, incorporation taking place either by violent revolution or deception)! Those Soviet emblems and Lenin's head can't still be next to the masthead of the Russian Ministry of Defense's newspaper due to their association with the Soviet Union and its ideals of world revolution; the nations of the world constituting the Soviet Union!



usrnmna
usrnmna

Can really blame him for wanting to get the heck out of that cesspool of a country. Hope not too many Olympic athletics and spectators get killed by terrorists in Sochi.

bojimbo26
bojimbo26

You are serving in the military ; would you like someone to give out information that could get you killed ?

Sibir_Russia
Sibir_Russia

Activist Post. USA

The Bill of Rights … Evaporating Before Our Very Eyes
Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton

Check out this Christmas present we got from Aaron’s mom. It’s awesome, but at the same time, horribly horribly frightening. Worse, this is really going on, RIGHT NOW and blatantly in our faces, and yet, this sad reality has been reduced to a gag on a coffee mug…

Taste the tyranny. Drink up, America.

(P.S. — Made in China, of course…)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WLuhnYImoQ

gabriellaredcoral
gabriellaredcoral

Dont come, i cans see people still dont get it. By the way. He has not release deep usa military info. People go to read moreeeeee. He just told people that you are being spyed. But no details. Gee...... Read people read!!!!!!

hoosiernewman
hoosiernewman

If he considers Ft. Leavenworth, KS home - let's welcome him back

LeroyJamesKnopfler
LeroyJamesKnopfler

He screwed himself and now he's waking up to the truth.  Let him stew.

CobraChoppergirl
CobraChoppergirl

I'm an American citizen, and in no way did Snowden betray me.  Or you.  Or anyone you know.  The only thing he did, was point out crimes being commited by a rotten institution, which he WAS OBLIGATED TO DO as a citizen.  If you know the company or government you are working for is breaking the law, it is your obligation to come forward with the truth and the facts.


There was no treason commited.  At all.   Because nothing should be secret.  Only behind secrecy, can you hide corruption and crime and dishonest dealings.   There is no call for secrecy anywhere in a free government.  If the United States wants to preach freedom and pseudo democracy, it has to walk the walk of the talk it talks.

ReneDemonteverde
ReneDemonteverde

Well let the conquering hero come home, to a confetti parade from a grateful nation and perhaps a Congressional Medal of Honor award, meeting with a man with the same mentality as his, Barrack Obama. But meanwhile the Russians, Chinese North Koreans and the Iranians are processing the nations military, state and technological secret he left them. Only in America. The ones dying in the foreign battlefields, intelligence agents working underground risking their lives and limbs, and even those in foreign countries who placed their trust on us are left holding the bag.

rsternitzky_1
rsternitzky_1

Wow, what a bunch of ignorant sheep and puppets posting to this article. If anyone truly believes our government has our best interests at heart, then this is why the politicians continue to run our country down the drain, due to uninformed people electing them. The government`s disregard for the constitution has been more than proven over the past two administrations. What Snowden stated should be of no surprise for people who get their daily news from sources other than the biased network news sources. Ignorance is not bliss, wake up america.

waynedinsmore
waynedinsmore

So Snowden wants a fair trial, huh. Ok, you committed treason, we shoot you between the eyes. What's not fair?

JustWorld
JustWorld

Good life in Russia, heh? I think that this nut case got his dose of reality there. 

andrewjs88
andrewjs88

@MMaderaI mean, I'd blame people like you. Blame where blame should go, and all...

armynod
armynod

@Sibir_Russia Lame unless you're naive.  Time to smell the coffee.  It's not the 18th Century anymore.

jason024
jason024

@gabriellaredcoral You may "read" but comprehension has escaped you.


There are things he disclosed that had NOTHING to do with American privacy or issues that we need to be worried about.


jmac
jmac

@gabriellaredcoral He spoke to the Chinese press in an interview and told them how we spy on them.  What universities.  What programs.    Europe knows details of how we spy on them.   Tightening whistleblower protection is  never ever going to tighten enough that a "whistleblower" can do that.   


zsandon
zsandon

@CobraChoppergirl Secrecy is essential to every facet of human activity. It is prized by researchers who do not want to be deprived of the fruits of their labor, by government authorities such as the SEC who want to ensure an honest and level playing field for investors, by people who would like to maintain their medical records private, by purchasers of any property who do not want to be exploited by prior knowledge of their intentions, a billion examples could be listed.

YOU value secrecy by declaring that Snowden performed a service for you and as a result you will be afforded some higher level of shelter of your own secrets from evil outsiders. You want to have your cake and eat it too - that seems to be another little secret you don't want to disclose.

Yes, treason was very much committed. Snowden has very much hobbled the ability to collect some information regarding true evildoers. Those who felt protected by anonymity of modern communications no longer use them. If any terrorist act that could have been divined by the NSA is ever successfully carried out a good part of the blame will be his. 

ReneDemonteverde
ReneDemonteverde

@CobraChoppergirl No treason ? Do you think Putin is so stupid to give asylum to Snowden while Snowden is carrying America`s secrets in his lap tops ? Those secrets meant a lot to the Russians and Chinese. Were you just born yesterday ? Why do you think Snowden proceeded to Hong Kong as an escape and why do you think the Chinese helped covered his flight to Russia ? For humanitarian reasons ?

CobraChoppergirl
CobraChoppergirl

@waynedinsmore Pretty sure every one of the "Founding Fathers" commited treason when then rebelled against the English crown and king and did worse than reveal secrets... they actively shot and and fought the military.   

Treason has a long standing brilliant tradition in our national fiber... we honor those who engage in it, protect them, and hold them in the highest regard.  For it they, who speak a truth all the rest of us want to say...   that things are horrendously wrong and need to be fixed.

anti-government
anti-government

@waynedinsmore I think Snowden is a hero defending us against our own government's excesses. Do you want to shoot me too? How about Washington, Jefferson & the other founding fathers? There's NO WAY they would have authorized government to spy on its own citizens en masse. Are they traitors too?

anti-government
anti-government

@JustWorld Would you feel that way if mass spying had gotten you arrested for something unrelated to "terrorism"? We need people like Snowden to tell us what is going on to keep our own government from tyrannizing us. If you think all this spying has made you safer, you are living in a dream world!


By the way, we Americans have killed far more civilians with bombs than all the other countries and "terrorist groups" in human history. WE AMERICANS ARE THE MAD BOMBERS OF THE WORLD WHO KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR BEDS!

Sibir_Russia
Sibir_Russia

@ReneDemonteverde@CobraChoppergirl  


Edward Joseph Snowden has not killed anyone, he is not a terrorist and not a criminal.
His passport was revoked when he was in the transit zone of Sheremetyevo.
In the homeland it was threatened with the death penalty. Say me 3 main reason why Putin should have refused him an asylum?

Sibir_Russia
Sibir_Russia

@ReneDemonteverde@CobraChoppergirl

Actually Snowden was flying in Latin America
The United States revoked the passport Snowden, when he was in the transit zone. He could not fly in Venezuela with an invalid passport, thus the American government  forced him to apply for asylum in Russia.

rsternitzky_1
rsternitzky_1

Hey Leroy, there`s a difference between patriot and traitor. Patriot is one who supports what our founders intended this country to be based on a constitution. Traitor is one who supports a corrupt, inept government. If anyone needs to leave, it`s people like you. Keep drinking the kool-aid you`re fed sheeple.

hoosiernewman
hoosiernewman

@CobraChoppergirl @waynedinsmore Different scenario - That was a unified REVOLUTION against oppression and colonial rule.  It has happened to England over and over. See India, See Falklands, See hundreds of other colonies, see much of the Caribbean countries that are now independent.

hoosiernewman
hoosiernewman

@anti-government guess you are not familiar with taking oaths, or the constitution. Google "TREASON" There are other ways to expose the truth you feel the govt is not giving to you. But to sell or give away states secrets is wrong. If you don't like America, there are thousands of other places to live. Why live somewhere that you hate?  Make a change for the better - for America and the people around you.

hoosiernewman
hoosiernewman

@anti-government He could have told us in a Blog, quit his job and left the secrets at the State Dept.  That may had been the right or better solution.


ReneDemonteverde
ReneDemonteverde

@Sibir_Russia@ReneDemonteverde@CobraChoppergirl 

Snowden and his betrayal of his country have not killed anyone ......yet. But in this struggle for world domination and leadership it would lead to undue advantage to America`s enemies which would lead them to more aggressive actions. Someday a more decisive President will be confronted with an equally aggressive China or Russia. And he will not let this country be pushed around as Obama is doing now. What then ? Look at China threatening America`s allies in Asia. Do you think if a Reagan type was President he would just wait and watch ?