Morning Must Reads: January 22

In the News: Divisions at Peace Talks on Syria, Gov. McDonnell Speaks Out, Abortion, and Troops in Afghanistan

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • Sharp Divisions Come to Force as Peace Talks on Syria Begin [NYT]
  • Former Virginia Gov. McDonnell: “I Did Nothing Illegal” [Washington Post]
  • “The Pentagon has proposed to President Obama that 10,000 American troops remain in Afghanistan when the international combat mission there ends after this year, or none at all, senior government officials said Tuesday.” [NYT]
  • Chris Christie is More Nimble Than You Think [Politico]
  • Cuccinelli Says Christie Should Leave RGA [CBS News]
  • 2014: The Year the Pro-Choice Crowd Fights Back [Politico Magazine]
  • American’s Don’t Care as Much About Abortion as the Media Think [Atlantic]
  • “Secretary of State John F. Kerry and a former Texas governor are part of an international coalition trying to halt Texas’ execution of a Mexican citizen this week.” [LA Times]
  • Governor Snyder Expected to Announce Plan to Guard Detroit Pensions, Art [Detroit Free Press]
  • Oklahoma Lawmaker Faces Conservative Skeptics in Senate Bid [TIME]
  • How Lawmakers Skirt Law to Keep Their Next Jobs Secret [National Journal]
  • “On Tuesday, the 9th Circuit ruled in no uncertain terms that gay people cannot be bumped from a jury due exclusively to their sexual orientation.” [Slate]
  • Glenn Beck: “I think I played a role, unfortunately, in helping tear the country apart” [BuzzFeed]
  • Lawmakers Won’t Toke Legal Joints [The Hill]
  • What’s Missing in “Mitt” [National Journal]
  • ” Lots of conservative lawmakers hate Obamacare. Rep. Louie Gohmert is putting his money where his mouth is. The Tyler Republican gave up his health insurance for 2014, asserting that the president’s signature health care law, the Affordable Care Act, has made coverage too expensive.” [Dallas News]
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forgottenlord
forgottenlord

620K Alberta residents' Health Care information stolen.  Unencrypted.  Information was stolen Sept 26 but they only just decided to maybe tell the Health Minister - idiots.

Based upon what they were saying, I believe my data was in that batch.  Thankfully, did not provide a credit or bank card - no money required for my visit - and SIN numbers weren't included so screw it.

fitty_three
fitty_three

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that since @colliourehas played his welcome out, he's decided that it's time to whip out the paulejb persona out. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

It's Movietime! Goodnight folks.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

So who's lying about Iran's nuke capability - us or them?  My $'s on them.

collioure
collioure

Gallup today (registered voters)

Approve/disapprove of President Obama's performance improved markedly to 42%/49% = -7%.

Rasmussen today (likely voters)

On the Generic Congressional Ballot the Democrats widened their lead to 41%-35%. Two weeks ago it had been 40%-40%.

(Rasmussen Reports has acted to correct a previous deficiency in their polling methods.They note, “To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from a demographically diverse panel.”)

collioure
collioure

Attn;  Robbert

I don't disagree with Gov Cuomo on those issues.

What I posted was that his statement was unwise.  Apparently as we speak he is advertising to get businesses

to relocate to NY.

And once again you and I may well understand exactly what he said, but someone less sophisticated may not;

BTW it occurs to me that you folks may not do nuance very well.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@collioure 

There's a problem with the stat - when you actually dig through the numbers, we find that the definition of pro-life has become very muddled.  If we ask them what their opinion is on abortion, some 74% (old stat - two years ago) would have an opinion that would be classified by most in the political field as pro-choice.  If we ask them what they identify themselves as, a majority now define themselves as pro-life.  So....take it with a grain of salt.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@mantisdragon91   "The study took a look at how mugger crocodiles"


Stupid egrets! They have mugger right in their name!

notsacredh
notsacredh

The Buss family bought the lakers for $20 million in 1979 (that also included the old Los Angeles Forum). They're now worth 1.35 billion.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@nflfoghorn 

This is an ego thing.  What I think they can claim from this agreement is something along the lines of "we can maintain enrichment at the levels we're currently doing [as far as we've publicly admitted]" while the US can say "they are winding down their capabilities so that they are only capable of civilian level enrichment".  Which I don't think is quite true 'cause I could've sworn they were doing medical isotope 20% enrichment while the deal is nuclear power 3-5% enrichment.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@nflfoghorn

Them.

I think they are unwinding because they have the capability to crank it up rapidly if they need to.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh Finally a story that literally has no effect on my life.  I'll say the same when Twitter implodes. 


Such a luddite I am. 

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@sacredh 

Requires a replacement to be ready.  Not saying impossible, just saying that's a simplification.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

I second @Robbert5.with the addition of this little fact:

It's a good thing you are under some tough constraints, because I have more than enough good reasons to yank you off that high horse like I did in December.

The Poff is mightier than the sword...

MementoMori
MementoMori

@collioure  

"Andrew Cuomo was mean to rightwing exteremists!!!!!!"

"Next up on FoxNews: ObamaCare And Gay Marriage Are Preludes To The Antichrist and Is Feminism a Threat to National Security?"


forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@collioure  

"BTW it occurs to me that you folks may not do nuance very well."

Considering that you've been missing several rounds of sarcasm, not a good claim to throw around.

Robbert5
Robbert5

@collioureoh get off your high horse.  I get that Faux news and the righties watching Faux news are having their panties in a wad, but this is a typical and deliberate attempt from the Faux entertainers to distort. That was my point.

collioure
collioure

@forgottenlord@collioure

I doubt that Gallup has changed their question.

In the last four years there has been a slight shift toward pro-life though at least 50% still think abortion should be legal under certain circumstances.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, we're members of a very small club. I have no cellphone. I've never been on Facebook or MySpace. I've never been on twitter. I still believe that sex can be dirty if done correctly.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three@collioure@Robbert5 

Constraints?

Really?

How bout you just pipe down?

You seem to have nothing to contribute here.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@MementoMori, never underestimate the power of the vagina. It has made me do some terrible things and wear a suit.

collioure
collioure

@forgottenlord@collioure 

I don't miss any of the simple-minded barbs here.

Unfortunately they often take the place of intelligent responses on the issues.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, if one of you doesn't ask "Isn't this a mortal sin?", then it's not being done correctly.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh @Paul,nnto Phone free here too. The cuter P has a flip phone but never charges it. 


Not sure that sex can be done incorrectly. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Paul,nnto

I saw some announcements coming out of 538.com last November calling for writers and analysts. I'm pretty sure that he's going to be up and running this year in politics.

That's as close as one can get right now to the 'yes, Hillary is running' level of confidence.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, I was thinking more of my conservative friends that refuse to believe they're not the majority anymore.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, once I ran across Nate Silver, the only reason I looked at the other polls was to see the comparisons and to bet. People do tend to believe the polls that favor their candidates and I'm not above using that.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh @Paul,nnto I wallow in the politics as much as the next person (likely way too much) but I feel i done a much better job at weeding out the irrelevant. 


And quick up/down polling numbers and national numbers in an election that is decided by state totals are two of them. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, I read the polls. Crunching the numbers is beyond me. I crunch cereal.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@forgottenlord @Paul,nnto You have the time and skill do crunch all those polls? I envy you.


Which is why, the last two presidential cycles, I just used 535. Not sure if he'll do the same at his new home at ESPN. 

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@Paul,nnto 

Also, Gallup and Rasmussen are the only two daily polls and Gallup was worse than Rasmussen last cycle.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@Paul,nnto

Actually, because a diverse array of methodologies and systems is more likely to be accurate than selecting my polls that are consistently towards the middle.  All methodologies have inherent flaws - I'm more likely to be accurate if I take a diversity of polls with a diversity of flaws and hope the flaws cancel out in the aggregate than if I assume a certain subset of those polls that have tended to be consistently accurate will remain consistently accurate - they could easily share the same flaw and all be wrong simultaneously.

Basically, Nate Silver's philosophy of polling.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@Paul,nnto

I would rather a poll that's consistently right of reality than one that can't decide if it's right or not.  Rasmussen was consistently something like R-5 during 2012.  Fine, I can work with that.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, does this mean that I have to stop telling my rightwing friends that Rasmussen is the most reliable indicator of election outcomes? This is going to cost me money.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Paul,nnto

When a leaner like Razz shows Obama's numbers going up, there's some solidity there.

MementoMori
MementoMori

@collioure  

"How bout you just pipe down?"

Previously....

"Apparently niether of you understands the 1st Amendment."

I lol'd.

collioure
collioure

@MrObvious@collioure@roknsteve  

Such a remark indicates what an ignoramus you are.


Pulitzer Prize, NY Times best-selling book, weekly panelist on the PBS news program Inside Washington from 1990 until it ceased production in December 2013, weekly column syndicated to more than 400 newspapers worldwide . . .

MementoMori
MementoMori

@collioure 

And I'm sure FoxNews will tell you're right.

Must be very comforting for you.

Oh, and good morning, since it's 6am in "France".

collioure
collioure

@MementoMori@collioure@MrObvious@roknsteve 

We know that because of the documents released by the House.

Only a moron.would suggest otherwise.

Incompetent community organizer?

Consider the ACA rollout for openers.  Libyan civil war, threat to strike Syria and many more.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@collioure @MrObvious @roknsteve  

Many liberal nitwits blame Fox for indoctrinating viewers

For good reasons. Just read yourself. It's like you enjoy hitting yourself with a 2x4 and pretend it's the height of intellectual pursuit.

The fact that you think Charles Krauthammer have great insight tells me that you're an intellectual dolt.

The man is a disaster. He's never right. He's a complete idiot. Maybe you find that type of always-wrongness compelling but it certainly says more about you than anything.

Kind of like when paulejb eulogized Sarah Palin. It's easy to judge people by the anti-intellectual people they find 'smart'.

MementoMori
MementoMori

@collioure @MementoMori @MrObvious @roknsteve  

Sure he did, collie.

And you know that because FoxNews has told you so over and over and over again.

Just like they keep telling you he's an "incompetent community organizer".

The important thing to remember is that your are "able to recongize bias and are not swayed by it".

Have you ever thought about taking your show on the road? The comedy clubs love nuanced and sophisticated humor.

TyPollard
TyPollard

@fitty_three @collioure 

No person "thinks" they are swayed by propaganda but evidence suggest the opposite. Fox, Rush, Beck have been a slow motion poison.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

By the kind and number of links you've put up, you're an abject fail at the 'recognize, but not swayed' meme.

You couldn't reason your way out of a wet paper bag.

collioure
collioure

@MrObvious@collioure@roknsteve 

Many liberal nitwits blame Fox for indoctrinating viewers, not understanding that many viewers are able to recongize bias and are not swayed by it.  I watch Special Report because the likes of Steve Hayes, AB Stoddard and Charles Krauthammer have great insights.  They get inside the news like no other network.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@collioure @roknsteve 

And neither do you. If enough people flag you what you write will be gone. And there's nothing you can do about it. No action from you will change what anyone here can do.

You do not have 1st amendment rights in a privately owned forum. In fact, even if you follow the EULA to a tee they (Time) can still flip your ID and toast anything you have written. It's their right. You got none here.

But more to the point; self-ironic reflection about moronic posts only gets you a chuckle. I suspect it's not part of some parody act and that you might just be so clueless to believe it.

I blame Fox, they empower halfwits like you do actually believe you're some kind of intellectual fortress with magic constitutional rights everywhere and way beyond what the constitution actually grants.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

Remember how this started over a point about nuance?

Well....something tells me Collie missed the nuance about what this entire discussion is about.

MementoMori
MementoMori

@collioure @roknsteve 

The 1st Amendment means you have the right to post comments on Time's website?

I've said this a million times, if I've said it once: Is there a rightwinger out there who actually knows what the 1st Amendment means?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

You seem to have made quite a few friends here. I envy you, or would, if I were a tapeworm in the intestinal canal of reason, too!

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@collioure

My point is that first amendment doesn't apply to a privately owned and operated forum 'cause the first amendment specifically cites the powers of Congress - nothing more, nothing less.

collioure
collioure

@MementoMori@collioure@forgottenlord 

Morons are posters who write utterly stupid stuff, Mori.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

You see?

If you didn't go so all out ozone breathing Stupid, people might actually like you!

Robbert5
Robbert5

@TyPollard@Robbert5@collioure 

I know I just couldn't let it sit there.  I am not a moron and I know how the deadbeats of Faux entertainers and its audience think.  I have in-laws too.