Morning Must Reads: January 13

In the news: an interim Iran nuclear accord, the United States' $1.1 trillion spending bill, and Hillary Clinton's hit list

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • “Iran and six world powers took a significant and hard-won step toward nuclear rapprochement on Sunday, announcing a deal to implement a landmark agreement that caps Iran’s disputed nuclear program in return for a modest easing of crippling economic sanctions.” [WashPost]
  • “House-Senate negotiators have substantially narrowed their differences over a $1.1 trillion governmentwide spending bill and are closing in on a deal that the leadership hopes can be filed by Monday night and moved quickly through Congress this week.” [Politico]
  • Bad News: The reputation of Roger Ailes [New Yorker]
  • A Balance of Powers Case With Senate GOP Power in the Balance [Roll Call]
  • “Duluth, Minn., and Superior Wis., are so close physically and culturally that they are known as the Twin Ports. But much began to change when Minnesota government went all Democratic and Wisconsin all Republican.” [NYT]
  • Hillary’s Hit List [Hill]
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fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

Let me make a couple of points here:

I'm quite a bit different than MM, Mantis, DQ and Mr. O. They are (as those I haven't mentioned) are skilled at debating, and are always careful to provide citeable documentation to supplement their high level of knowledge of the subjects being debated.

I'm different in that on some subjects, I don't have their depth of knowledge, thus, I won't get into those kinds of debates with you. 

That does not mean that I can't dismantle your arguments: I can, because I can see inherent flaws in your points that don't require debate such as your penchant for drawing on sources that attempt to disguise their opinions as facts. When I do, it reveals your underlying gullibility on a wide range of subjects - which is why I can invoke things like Occam's razor to reject many of your points out of hand without debate on the point you are trying to push.

Opinions aren't facts, so why would I even want to debate you on the opinion itself? 

In short, don't look for debate with me, because I will just drive past you too the hoop and expose the core problem with whatever stand you take, which is really not very hard to do.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@nflfoghorn

Why is the tip of Lurch's Floda lapel pin red in the 'm-word' video?

Is there something we don't know and probably shouldn't ask about?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

"Dead horses can't take care of themselves"  ~ Alice Cooper


Oops. Metaphor error::improper mix

Oh, tohellwithit.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

In case you hadn't noticed, only FOX is beating that dead horse.

At least my 'pony' has life.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three@collioure 

It's not news that the other media are biased and irresponsible.

And that's just one of the reasons you are so ill-informed.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

You should have stopped at the word 'news'. You would have been more convincing, but then again, you and Occam's Razor aren't on speaking terms.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

Hilarious. I'm credible and you're not. 

Why?

Because I have provided extensive documentation on many different subjects with over 800 citations, while you have yet to provide any credible documents, and not provided even one single citeable source.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

@collioure Bring back the "Fairness Doctrine" and see which new source has to change their positions to be able to even try to make their imaginative stories look like "truth".  FAUX is properly named.

collioure
collioure

@ARTRaveler @collioure

The only question here today is who has the Benghazi story correct.

Material declassified this week indicates that Fox News has had it correct all along.

All the survivors of the attack said it was a terrorist attack.  "No one mentioned a protest outside the consulate."

So Susan Rice, the New York Times and many other media sources had it wrong. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

@nflfoghorn 

Oh, and Matt Dixon didn't get very far in grammar school: 'quiet', not 'quite'

I'm not a grammar nazi, butt...

fitty_three
fitty_three

Well, I'm certainly glad that @collioure's penchant for conspiracies has been handled.

Next up:

Getting his plate of crow ready.  There's been a huge surge in Obamacare applicants.


I will be more than happy to personally serve it to him on Mach 31, 2014.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three@collioure 

Don't think I have ever posted about insufficient enrollments, 53.

Do remember that I told you the website (which eventually will work) was much more than glitches, and more recently that it's going to fail.  Insufficient enrollments by young people will be one of the reasons.

So far it has reduced the number of insureds.

MementoMori
MementoMori

Blogger At Cruz Rally: Shoot If You See California License Plates

A conservative blogger at a rally for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) jokingly said Texans should start shooting if they see cars with California license plates.

The blogger, Bill Whittle, is a regular guest on Fox News and frequent contributor to Pajamas Media. He also previously wrote for National Review Online.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

How curious that with Chris Christie taking on water rapidly, Fox release "New" Benghazi transcripts to distract the wingers from his crime spree.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

Speaking of conspiracy theories, that one is right up there.

FYI Fox viewers are probably not very high on Christie.  They're more conservative.

outsider
outsider

@mantisdragon91 

It'll fail as a distraction. 

Christie is in serious trouble now - even if only half the stuff he's accused of is true. 

jmac
jmac

@mantisdragon91 They can't make up their minds what to go with!    They thought Obamacare and the 'lie' would carry them  to November, then they quickly switched to the IRS after Christie's performance, now they're back to Benghazi.  

fitty_three
fitty_three

@MementoMori

I'm sure that FOX isn't saying that Obama is trying to divert attention away from the big enrollment surge in December?

Why would Obama ever do something so crass as to divert attention away from his own successes?

Even Obama knows he's an incompetent community organizer and that everything is his fault!

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

And it wasn't Fox that released the transcripts, Third Grade.

They don't declassify material.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

FOX listeners aren't particularly smart:

Witless your failure at reading comprehension:


The location and context of that telling word 'new' with quotes around it.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three@collioure 

There you go again!

A pathetic attempt based on who reported the declassified materiel, not on what the declassified material says.

Hey, facts matter.

Except to you.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

"...new..."


You aren't smart enough to separate facts from opinions. Every post you've provided points to an opinion of a hack right wing writer with no citeable sources.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three

If only that were true, but the last one pointed to recently declassified material reviewed by Sen Graham. 

Just about all of them point to text or statements that are traceable.

FYI Iran is still refining uranium just like the Washington Free Bacon said it could.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

@jmac @mantisdragon91 When a Party's entire agenda is based on "hate", it is hard to find something that you can use to show what your party stands for without making yourself look more stupid than the GOTP looks already

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

@collioure @fitty_three Wow, Senator Graham is a impeachable source?  The man is a Republican stooge who will lie on anything..  Cite a source and hell; if just quoting would sufficve, Issa would fill you mail with all sorts of "facts:" that have no relationship to reliability.  Republicans lie repeatedly. Hell, that;'s why we went into Iraq.  Lies count and people die!