White House Touts More Than 2 Million Obamacare Sign-Ups

Millions more insured through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program

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Despite a troubled early rollout, 2.1 million Americans have signed up for private health insurance through the state and federal exchanges at the heart of the health care reform law, the White House said Tuesday.

Another 3.9 million Americans gained coverage from expansions of Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, while 3 million more Americans under the age of 26 have maintained coverage under their parents’ health insurance, the administration said in a celebratory end-of-year conference call with reporters.

But the Department of Health and Human Services did not provide details on what percentage of those who signed up for coverage have actually paid their first premiums to make that coverage final. Officials also wouldn’t reveal the demographic breakdown of those who enrolled, a key component in the long-term viability of the law, which depends on younger, healthier Americans.

The figures also include some Americans who previously had health care coverage. The open enrollment period runs through the end of March.

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TerryClifton02
TerryClifton02

So basically what the article is saying is that 2 million people who lost their coverage are forced to buy new coverage at higher premiums, and 4 million will be getting theirs for free. Only an idiot would think that this scheme is viable going forward. When you have double the freeloaders, you have to find that money somewhere.

JohnLindauer
JohnLindauer

politics aside: 


romneycare worked in massachusetts.  people hated it, at first. then grew to like it over time.  


obamacare is very similar to romneycare. and will probably unfold in a similar way.


i think the GOP will make short term gains off obamacare.  but will kick themselves later: they will have branded something that becomes very popular with the name "obama-"



notmyshametobear
notmyshametobear

I do not understand why everything the government does is so difficult. Not to mention that they outsourced the building of the obamacare website instead of supporting our own country with jobs, is absolutely ludacris. 


http://itisnotmyshametobear.blogspot.com/

barneydidit
barneydidit

I'm sensing a trend here; "GOP doesn't agree with NY Times conclusion regarding Benghazi"...."GOP doesn't believe White House numbers for ACA sign ups"....GOP doesn't believe in evolution"...."GOP doesn't believe in climate change"....

reallife
reallife

the question still is:

what happened to the 48 million "uninsured"?

where are they? maybe we need to create a new Disappeared Uninsured Help(DUH for short) agency to find them


LOL



rggreiss
rggreiss

I don't believe it. They, the current administration,  constantly lie. I have no respect for this democratic administration. I would  like to see the stats.  How many are on medicare. How many are paying customers. They are the ones that count. HEY NEWS PEOPLE WHY DON'T YOU FIND OUT WHAT THIS ACA COSTS.

ReneDemonteverde
ReneDemonteverde

well, well, well. That was quick. By tomorrow there will be three millions.Who would have thought ?

PaulDirks
PaulDirks

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/meet-the-5-million-uninsured


The actual number of newly insured is closer to 6 million and the number who SHOULD be newly insured except for the action of Governors is another 5 mil.


The bottom line is that by August, Obamacare will be a success story to campaign upon rather then a sledgehammer to wield against Democrats.


JAVAHolstein
JAVAHolstein

48 million (uninsured) is the real number to keep in mind in this whole debate. Getting 30 million of these people covered initially would be a reasonable success. The current numbers are a joke. Particularly considering all the government guaranties to insurance companies that are in place to cover the costs if only the "unhealthies" sign up.

brendanobri3n
brendanobri3n

We almost have broken even compared to those who have lost coverage. I think they would give us the demographic data if it was something for them to brag about. 

Bullsgt
Bullsgt

Why is a sign up rate of 4.375% a success (White House touts)? There are an estimated 48mm people without health coverage in the US. Or is the administration thankful anyone actually signed up? 


Not only am I paying for coverage I don't need or will use I'm paying far more then I used to. I don't qualify for a government subsidy. I wonder how many others are in the same predicament?

yahtahhey
yahtahhey

@notmyshametobear It isn't that difficult.  The prices of the Obamacare policies are so low that most people don't qualify for subsidies.  Just go to Thehealthsherpa site, pick out a policy, click through and pay for it.  

JohnLindauer
JohnLindauer

@reallife you mean the 42 million, right? 


because 5-6million people of the 48 million you mentioned  just bought private health insurance, joined medicare, joined their parent's plan, or received childhood insurance.


and yes. i get that obama lied about 5million people who will have to change plans. but their "current" plans contain fine-print that allows their insurance carrier to kick them out if they surpass "the maximum payout." (under the ACA, that is now illegal.)  but guess what? if they were willing to buy insurance before this - they'll probably be willing to buy it again.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@reallife Thanks to the GOP-run states that refused to set up exchanges, many of the 40+ million uninsured are going to have to stay that way for a while. Pretty classic conservative logic I must admit- stand in the way of fixing a problem, then wonder why the problem hasn't been fixed yet. 

ReneDemonteverde
ReneDemonteverde

@yahtahhey@barneydiditThat happens when there is no independent agency handling the enrollments after Obama himself lied in front of cameras not once but at least twenty times. People lose their trust and respect. Who would even believe the two million if there are no records. Only maybe to people like you and barney gumble.

Bullsgt
Bullsgt

@barneydidit @reallife There are states with their own programs and the rest that can use the Federal site. There is no one holding back people from registering except themselves.

reallife
reallife

@barneydidit @reallife oh wait!  It's Bush's fault!


LOL



yahtahhey
yahtahhey

@Bullsgt @barneydidit @reallife  


Nonsense.  Young people typically must spend less than $2,000 per year for Obamacare coverage.  Even in Los Angeles, its not even possible for a 30 year old to pay that kind of money through the exchange.  http://www.thehealthsherpa.com/insurance_plans?zip_code=90210#c06037/mplatinum/pg3/ppl30


Furthermore, the taxes used to support O-care are a 3.8% increase in the capital gains tax for those making more than $250K per year, and 0.9% increase in Medicare  taxes also for those making $250K per year (married filing jointly).  There are various taxes on the medical industry, but those are really claw-backs of the windfall that comes their way thanks to O-care.  If you don't make more than $250K per year, Barney, you can't pretend to be an aggrieved taxpayer.  

Bullsgt
Bullsgt

@barneydidit @reallife

The NY Times article is interesting but that does not change the fact that people still need to sign up no matter where they live and are not. 

The Site  below explains this.


https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-my-state-is-not-expanding-medicaid/#state=illinois



The aca needed 3.3mm by the end of 2013 to be viable and of that number 2.7mm Americans in the 18 to 35 age range must spend $5,800 a year per individual in order to balance the higher medical costs of seniors and make the program sustainable.

This isn't happening either.


I hope everyone does sign up but if they don't then our government will pay the insurance companies to insure they make their profits. That money will come out of our tax's. That's in addition to what I'm already paying for my health care.


I'm not a fan of Fox, MSNBC or CNN. I'm a fan of my hard earned cash!

barneydidit
barneydidit

@reallife @barneydidit @Bullsgt Oh yeah....forgot about that "liberal media" issue.  I'll go over to Fox and check out their fair and balanced take on the subject so I can get the REAL facts.