Morning Must Reads: December 13

In the news: House passes budget agreement; Farm Bill becomes symbol of "ideological ineptitude"; presidential task force recommends big changes at NSA; Senate hits rock bottom; CIA agent went rogue in Iran and disappeared

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • Budget agreement passed the House 332 to 94
    • How Patty Murray won over Dems on budget fight [Politico]
    • Senate GOP opposition grows [Roll Call]
    • Will accord pave the way for immigration reform? [Hill]
  • How the farm bill went from a beacon of bipartisanship to a stalled-out symptom of ideological ineptitude [Atlantic]
  • “A presidential task force has drafted recommendations that constitute a sweeping overhaul of the National Security Agency…The panel’s draft proposals would change the spy agency’s leadership from military to civilian and limit how it gathers and holds the electronic information of Americans.” [WSJ]
  • “If there is a rock bottom in the frayed relationship between Senate Republicans and Democrats, it seemed uncomfortably close as the final days of 2013 on Capitol Hill degenerated into something like an endurance contest to see who could be the most spiteful.” [NYT]
  • “An American man who disappeared in Iran more than six years ago had been working for the CIA in what U.S. intelligence officials describe as a rogue operation that led to a major shake-up in the spy agency.” [WashPost]
  • Gun Control Activists Seek to Reboot After Newtown Shooting Momentum Fades [TIME]
  • “The Defense Department wants a radical new airship designed to cut the cost of lobbing a satellite into orbit by 90%.” [TIME]
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fitty_three
fitty_three

Ok, Sunday morning jabs at @collioure...now officially over.

But the bigger question is:


Which Seahawk team is showing up today, the well oiled machine or the ragtag bunch of guys who depend on raw talent to win (mostly)?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

How's the stomach contents?

BTW, you strap on a geoduck yet?

Remember: 

We're so manly up here in Washington we even have wildlife you can strap on!

sacredh
sacredh

I'm a bit of a jerk. I've never denied it. Today when I go back to work, I'm going to stop and get a few scratch-offs. I'm not not going to rub them off until I get to work. I've got some fake ones. I'm going to mix a fake one in with the real ones. The fake ones are all "winners". There's nothing less than a $10,000 winner. I'm looking forward to seeing their faces when I "hit" again.

sacredh
sacredh

OT, but I go back to work today after 10 days off. I work a total of 15 days before I'm off for another 10 days. Life is good.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioureAnd you are surprised why? The GOP proclaimed back before he was even elected that they will not deal with him. Sometimes its easier to ignore the children in the GOP then it is to argue with them.

sacredh
sacredh

@MistressMetalMe, President McCain  has been having some problems since 2008 when he became the first white guy in US history to lose a presidential election to a black man viewed by many to be the anti-Christ. He's been in public therapy for 5 years (Meet The Press). Once a week the network allows him to address the nation in a kind of ersatz State of the Union forum. It was thoughtful of them, but no progress has been made in re-connecting John with reality.

collioure
collioure

@MistressMetalMe  

He is really bonkers.

After you lose a Presidential election, you're supposed to demonstrate why should have been preferred.

Week after week this jerk demonstrates why he should have lost.

collioure
collioure

Now I've read it.  I agree with the two courageous Congressmen that the whole report should be released.


We need to come to grips with the Saudis ASAP.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioureIts pretty common knowledge that GWB protected and helped Saudis leave the country after 9/11. The Bush family has made millions from dealing with the Saudi royal family and weren't about to bite the hand that feeds them. Of course they also wanted to cast suspicion on Saddam and showing Saudi involvement would have proven inconvenient to their narrative. Keep in mind that this is the same Saudi government that now wants to push us into a war with Iran.

sacredh
sacredh

I much preferred "The Lion in the Winter".

sacredh
sacredh

Btw, I didn't care for Lawerence of Arabia. I watched it once. That was enough.

Robbert5
Robbert5

@Paul,nnto 

Somebody should mention to Rickie boy that there is no such thing as "free" healthcare.  Healthcare under the NHS system is indeed a lot cheaper overall than the US free market based system.  It is not free though.

In addition though, when you don't get sick you like free healthcare because you don't need it is indeed how everybody thinks.  When you don't need it you really like it rather than when you don't need something it doesn't really come up on your radar, that is how the world works!. *ugh* 

Really, sweater dude needs to keep focusing on his movies that don;t go anywhere and shut up.  Ppl get to see what he really is, ignorant.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@Paul,nnto So according to the Right, a single payer or otherwise government sponsored health care system is "free health care"....that would be a job killer because it is paid for by increased taxes?

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@Paul,nnto 

The part I can't figure out is why people who say these things don't get laughed off the stage.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioureWe needed to come to grips with them a decade ago. By getting rid of Saddam, we made them into a regional power broker instead. The money and men wasted on Iraq, should have been used to put the current regime of Theocracy there out of power and replace them with people who don't still believe that beheading and public stoning are acceptable government sanctioned punishment.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

ObL was the black sheep of the bin Laden family that was allowed to leave for their protection.

The rest of this I didn't know.  I haven't read it all yet.  Very difficult relation obviously.


Please save your partisan crap for someone else.  I'm tired of seeing it here.

We attacked Afghanistan according to my sources.

TyPollard
TyPollard

@sacredh 

If you didn't watch it in a theater in 70mm, you haven't seen it.

Two other movies of his I loved are My Favorite Year and The Stuntman.

RIP


fitty_three
fitty_three

@Robbert5 

I'm hoping that the Seahawks clinch today, they're in a similar position to the Pats, which is going to beat the Dolphins, but it will be close.

Can't say a word about Gronk, but wow, I saw him play last week.  That guy is just deadly when he gets the ball.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, this would be a fake "impress you" moment. Consider it my "Grinch" moment.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, yep. I've got 4 10-day vacations this year, 1 7-day vacation and 11 5-day weekends coming up in 2014.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@Robbert5 

The people who *really* like it are those who just finished an extended stay and don't find that they've come home to bankruptcy.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@Robbert5 @Paul,nnto Ha I had forgotten his movies. 


He's clown crying for attention. Not uncommon for a rightist now that I think about it. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

@barneydidit 

They don't ever mention the fact that businesses would dearly love to be relieved of the burden of providing health care.

But we'll just keep that a secret.

collioure
collioure

@sacredh @collioure

I saw both those elecfions on CNN from across the water.  I didn't sense that race was a factor in either.  I sensed race a factori in 2012 though.

sacredh
sacredh

@collioure, I'm a partisan and support the democrats. I have several friends and co-workers that usually vote for the democrats no matter what. They would not vote for Obama simply because he was black. The democratic party also has racists. There's no denying that. Race was a factor in 2008 and 2010.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure@mantisdragon91Let me break it down for you, since you seem to be in denial. GWB, Cheney and their GOP enablers, including Fox News, deliberately withheld evidence of who provided support to the 9/11 terrorists. They deliberately hid Saudi involvement while doing everything possible to pin the blame on Saddam.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

In response to the first paragraph of your post, I don't know but we all need to know.

I doubt at that time we could have done without their oil, but that's all the more reason to become energy self-sufficient ASAP


I remember hearing at the time that prior to 9-11 some people just left heir homes and never returned, and this article offers one example of such.


Clearly many in Washington were aware of this development.


I suspect we'll hear more about this soon.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure@mantisdragon91  So why do you think GWB made sure that these 28 pages pointing to Saudi involvement were redacted? What do you think his motivations were?


Curiouser and Curiouser.




In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.

Several bin Laden family members invested millions in The Carlyle Group, a private global equity firm based in Washington, DC. The company's senior advisor was Bush's father, former President George H.W. Bush. After news of the bin Laden-Bush connection became public, the elder Bush stepped down from Carlyle.

Interestingly, on Sept. 11, 2001, members of the Carlyle Group - including Bush senior, and his former secretary of state, James Baker - were meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington, D.C., along with Shafiq bin Laden, another one of Osama bin Laden's brothers.


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Robbert5
Robbert5

@fitty_three@Robbert5 

Congrats, the hawks are pounding the giants.  The pats do miss Gronkowski, along with the bulk of their defense.  They lost to Miami.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, December 31st 2016 is the longest I'll stay. Period. I think the chances are very high that I'll go before then. If they offer a buyout for us Civil Service guys, I'm gone, even if it's 2014.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I do half of everything and don't ask anybody to do something I don't do myself. Two of the younger guys go out of their way to take it easy on me hoping I'll stay longer.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

Still, I think you'd be the kind of boss I could work for.

My BF is like that, no bs, no muss, no fuss, and he'll jerk you around if you jerk him around. That's the kind of boss I respect because it's based on an honest days' work for an honest day's pay.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

Well, look, since you're on the Go(l)d Standard of retirement plans, and don't get SS, then you deserve to satisfy every bit of your lazy socialist ambitions.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I've only got two weeks to go and it'll have been a full calendar year since I reported off. I just felt like going a year without missing a day. There are two other guys at work that didn't report off this year either. Both young guys.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

I feel your pain.  I took five weeks off, then two weeks for Debbie, and I still have 90 hours and it's accumulating at the rate of 16 hrs / month.

It's almost like I can't get rid of it.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@forgottenlord @Robbert5 That raises an excellent point.


Tracking declared bankruptcies as ACA goes forward. No caps/no exemptions for preexisting conditions are going to have an effect.


My company's slimy insurance broker was complaining about having to cover the "previously uninsurable".