Morning Must Reads: December 6

In the news: the death of Nelson Mandela; budget talks; Bill Bratton returns to NYPD; 2 Gitmo detainees released; the Pope

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  • Nelson Mandela, 1918–2013: Remembering an Icon of Freedom [TIME]
  • One week before their self-imposed deadline, Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Patty Murray are a few billion dollars apart from a budget deal [TIME]
  • Legendary former NYPD police chief William Bratton returns to his post [TIME]
  • “Coming to the end of a year that has bitterly divided their caucus, House Republicans are grappling with how bold they should be in shaping a legislative agenda for 2014.” [WashPost]
  • “From July 12, 2010, to Nov. 30, 2013, the president’s public schedule records zero one-on-one meetings between Obama and [Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen] Sebelius. Equally shocking, over the same period, the president’s calendar lists 277 private meetings with his other Cabinet secretaries (excluding full Cabinet meetings).” [Politico]
  • “The Pentagon announced Thursday that it had repatriated two longtime Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, detainees to Algeria, where, fearing persecution, neither man wanted to be sent.” [NYT]
  • Four things to know before the jobs report [WSJ]
  • Can the Pope change the Vatican? [New Yorker]
  • The Most Notable Education Stories of 2013 [Atlantic]
854 comments
collioure
collioure

I am withdrawing my support for the Iran deal.  I have come to learn that it was negotiated by Wendy Sherman who previously negotiated the disastrous NK deal and that Iran chooses the inspection sites.  My worst fears are realized.


This deal was struck to keep Obamacare off the front pages.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

I learn alot from wathcing Fox~  Coillure


How to lie, ignore data, and spin quotes.

fitty_three
fitty_three

Boulders are great for sunning oneself, sitting on, or using to walk across streams.  Great for peeing against, too, if the need arises.  Boulders aren't so much fun when you're in Arizona, where boulders perch on crags and teetering pinnacles, patiently waiting to squish surprised gawkers, or if you're on steep slopes and they decide that they like a whole lot, and decide that being with you is their primary aim in life.  That can really suck.

But.

But!

Boulders are not very good at learning, or holding discussions with.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

collioure said

Paul,nnto 
That's a direct quote from Fox News Sunday today, moron
.


"This comment is no longer visible."


Funny. 

barneydidit
barneydidit

Been alternating between sitting on my couch channel surfing past football in the snow (football holds minimal meaning in Ohio between today and next Aug. since the Buckeye's lost yesterday), bad vampire movies, and several interesting Mandela specials, and keeping the woodstove fired up. 

During my surfing routine I inevitably touch down briefly on Fox Noise, and have noticed a trend on their part when it comes to their informational graphics they keep at the bottom of their screen during each segment- they're always telling us that there is "mounting pressure" or "increasing calls for..." or "more people questioning..." something something something Obama. Makes me wonder if they honestly think the majority of the country doesn't know that those increasing calls or mounting pressure for Obama to do something or not do something are only coming from within Fox Noise's own studio?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Of course Drudge is proud. A Drudge link after all is how we got Curly

collioure
collioure

I think you should enroll in Economics 101, Third Grade.

fitty_three
fitty_three

One can use boulders to heat in a fire and bring inside on a cold day during power outages too.  I have three of them grazing in my lawn just for that purpose.  I've found that one can prop up books and kids love to hop on and off of them.

If they're big enough, there great to set your weed down on while you roll a joint, too.  They make great supports for the kid's forts and are useful for all sorts of wind related anchoring systems.

But try to actually prove something to a boulder?

Good luck with that!

collioure
collioure

@Paul,nnto  

Rather pathetic,

They way you sycophants try to deny the truth.

Here you go again, moron

Obamacare Architect: If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Pay More




fitty_three
fitty_three

When the main comment gets poffed, it sucks all the daughter comments down the drain with it.

It's teh swirlies!

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Fox News a network created by a Nixon PR stooge to keep GOP president's from getting impeached in the future. What else needs to be said other than that.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@collioure  The Atlantic= non serious.   Fred Barnes Weakly Standard=credible. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure Actually this is what he said

"Let me just say something," said Emanuel. "People are going to have a choice as to whether they want to pay a certain amount for a selective network or pay more for a broader network."


Interestingly this was the same choice as people were making before ObamaCare.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

I think you should stop calling people "Third Grade", Kindergartner.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Except that wasn't his quote. That was the Right Wing spin on it. But by all means enjoy displaying your wingerdom for all to see and jeer.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure@mantisdragon91 How so?


Fox News ran a segment entitled “You Do Need A Husband!” on Sunday. Their guest, founder of the site ‘Women for Men’ Suzanne Venker, was on to argue that women are trying too hard to reduce their reliance on men. Her appearance followed up on her article “Why women still need husbands,” published Friday on Fox’s website.

In the piece, Venker argues that women won’t find fulfillment trying to balancing a relationship and family with full-time work. “Financial independence is a great thing,” she writes, “but you can’t take your paycheck to bed with you. And there’s nothing empowering about being beholden to an employer when what you really want is to have a baby. ” She uses this opinion to advocate for women having less of a role in the workforce, and letting men be the breadwinners. “Unlike women,” Venker writes, “a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck.”

collioure
collioure

@Paul,nnto 

That's a direct quote from Fox News Sunday today, moron.


And once again the Atlantic is not an economics magazine, moron.

NP042
NP042

@collioure


he can't discuss any issue intelligently in depth

One day you'll get there

collioure
collioure

Mantis earns his nicknames daily.


He's a collection of campaign slogans, but he can't discuss any issue intelligently in depth.  He's all partisan pecadilllos - a kind of flim-flam man..

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Except that isn't what he said. Why draw me a pictures when I can access and post his exact quote.

Robbert5
Robbert5

Thing that fries me tho is that he started the thread with a quote from WeeklyStandard that was repudiated and then calls you a moron because now it was said on Fox.  Speaking about moving goalposts.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

And what is her suggestion than if not to stop focusing on work and depend on a man instead?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

I posted his quote. You posted the Weekly Standard's take on it.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

A quote is a quote, Third Grade.

It doesn't matter where it happens.

That's what Ezekial Emmanuel said.  He's a very bright guy.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Projection at its finest. For someone who claims to not be a winger, you sure behave like one.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 

It wasn't even on the point I made, Third Grade.


Please stop.  You didn't deliver the goods and you don't know ANYTHING about economics.


Dinner!

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

So because its not an economics magazine you disregard a link to an economic study? Curious Peggy Noonan has no experience as a diplomat and yet you swallow her lies about Obama being weak on the world stage.

collioure
collioure

I just saw him say it on the air 30 minutes ago, moron.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

I did read the whole article. How else did you think I knew that his actual quote was.


"Let me just say something," said Emanuel. "People are going to have a choice as to whether they want to pay a certain amount for a selective network or pay more for a broader network."



sacredh
sacredh

@collioure, I did read the whole article. I think he was spinning it some. I belonged to an HMO and had to switch doctors before. That stuff happens. I work for the feds and I've NEVER in my 38 years of service seen a single president that didn't spin. Not one single president. Every single president has lied/misinformed the voters many times. Obama is no different. Bush was no different. The next president will be no different or even the one after that. I just don't get all worked up because I'm realistic to know that we'll never get everything we're "promised".

collioure
collioure

@sacredh@collioure  

I think you ought to read the whole article.  Emmanuel was trying to avoid answering questions directly in a heated interview because Chris Wallace like his dad Mike persists.


This may be the very first time Americans will understand
,

 "If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Pay More"

barneydidit
barneydidit

@sacredh @collioure Tina Fey doing Sara Palin- "I just hope the lamestream media doesn't twist my words by quoting me verbatim". 

sacredh
sacredh

@collioure, here is the quote from the article link YOU posted:

"Let me just say something," said Emanuel. "People are going to have a choice as to whether they want to pay a certain amount for a selective network or pay more for a broader network."

How is a direct quote from your link spin?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

That was exactly what he said. That spin came directly from the article you linked to.