NSA Tracking Cell Phone Location Data Worldwide

Though not inside the US

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The U.S. National Security Agency collects five billion records every day tracking cell phone movements around the world, according to documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

In terms of scale, the NSA’s location-tracking program dwarfs the other surveillance programs revealed since Snowden’s leaks began coming to light in June.

The NSA is “getting vast volumes” of location data from people around the world, said one anonymous employee, but the agency does not target Americans in the United States, the Washington Post reports. The agency does, however, vacuum up a substantial amount of location data on Americans  “incidentally,” as a result of its monitoring of global cell phone networks that support US and foreign traffic as well as the cell phones of Americans traveling abroad. U.S. officials say the program is legal and designed to collect information only on foreign targets.

“The dragnet surveillance of hundreds of millions of cell phones flouts our international obligation to respect the privacy of foreigners and Americans alike,” ACLU Staff Attorney Catherine Crump told TIME. “The government should be targeting its surveillance at those suspected of wrongdoing, not assembling massive associational databases that by their very nature record the movements of a huge number of innocent people.”

[Washington Post]

42 comments
nunley.org
nunley.org

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michaellaguardia
michaellaguardia

The Chinese must have been so surprised when they heard about this! So many years of the U.S government knowing of the Chinese government tyrannical acts, when in reality, the U.S is just as bad and even worse. This was even a surprise to me, and at this point, I am interested in what other aspects the U.S government is at fault and much worse than what the Chinese do.

CarrieZar
CarrieZar

It’s not just the Government and police.Until we get proper legislation making app developers have you op in instead of opting out, you will never know what you have downloaded to your mobile device. 

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richard.draucker
richard.draucker

The Chinese must be having quite a laugh over these revelations.  After so many years of the U.S. government screeching about Chinese government tyranny, now we learn that the U.S. government is guilty of much worse than the Chinese.  

ClearAsDay
ClearAsDay

being employed at the NSA should be as socially unacceptable as being an admitted nazi.

DavidBell
DavidBell

Yet, we can't build a website to enroll people in health care, then tell the insurance companies who has enrolled.

cscaley1
cscaley1

I'm not worried about it, I'll just call my Congressman and all will be taken care of.  He represents me!

nunley.org
nunley.org

I think Sarah Palin should step up and mediate this debate using all credible sources.

DanWang611
DanWang611

I wonder how many people the NSA has employed just going website to website trying to post pro-NSA messages on all of the articles' comments section.  And before anyone calls me crazy...does that really seem beyond their capabilities at this point?

CandiCane
CandiCane

Hello?  Hey!   Hello.....is this thing on?



TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

Hmmm... All of these revelations and all of these things we know about the NSA and all of these people discussing how the US is dead or dying because of it... and I look back to the time before we knew about this and there is only one thing I come up with : it's changed my life not one iota. Apparently whether the NSA is spying on me or not, my life does not change.

I suggest that, perhaps, people are upset over something that doesn't affect them at all.

MargieOliveira
MargieOliveira

I hope they are listening because there are too many evil people in the world who are hell bent on hurting and killing the innocent. If they aren't watching our backs then who will. I could care less if they listen in on my conversations, I have nothing to hide. Just wish they had been listening to those evil monsters who changed the world on 9/11. Freedom isn't free and it shouldn't just be the military that pays the price, we all need to assist and help those that protect us. IMO it's our duty as Americans.

ClearAsDay
ClearAsDay

@TimothyCollins woah.  you are retarded.  you give up your rights and our children's rights so easily strictly due to flagrant ignorance.  you're too small minded to realize that your secluded life is of no consequence to anyone in the government right now, however that could change drastically in the future.  You have no foresight.  No wisdom.

commonsenseforcommongood
commonsenseforcommongood

@TimothyCollins You are apparently blind and deaf to the steadily diminishing quality of life around you. In your favor, it's only human to be razzle dazzled  by the Wizard behind your Oz.

CandiCane
CandiCane

@TimothyCollins 


Just because you don't care that people are gathering data on you doesn't mean that it will affect you.

I guess you don't care about the constitutional protections afforded all residents....until the expansion of NSA data mining.


Perhaps, it's just one of those things that if you don't know about it.....it must not matter. If you had sex with someone with aids.....that might be something of concern to you...or if the blood transfusoin you got was radioactive....maybe you'll care.....

mysenmen
mysenmen

@TimothyCollins That's the beauty of it. You don't know just how much it a/effects you. You have to one of those litle people that have learned about life from the television.

nancy1
nancy1

@TimothyCollins You like getting FRISKED at the airport and getting pulled over at a ROADBLOCK when you're out Christmas shopping and getting DRUG TESTED. You're sick alright.

ClearAsDay
ClearAsDay

@MargieOliveira its our duty as americans to protect our own freedoms first.  whats sad is you call yourself an american but your post illustrates ...basically screams... how little you understand and appreciate freedom.

RyanW
RyanW

@MargieOliveira :  Interesting.  I would think that an NSA employee would know that the term is "couldn't care less" and not "could care less" which means the opposite of what you intended.  You, Margie, are a VERY good German.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@mysenmen @TimothyCollins Yeah, actually I think that is the comparisons to Nazi Germany we valid and I were put in a death camp by the govt I might notice that... So really I think your argument is, therefore, based upon a faulty foundation.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@nancy1 @TimothyCollins I have never been frisked at an airport, I have never been pulled over at a roadblock and I have never been drug tested. If you have been, then I posit that perhaps the problem is you rather than the NSA.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@dr.vagabond.md @TimothyCollins But as far as I can see, they haven''t "Come for" anyone yet. There haven't been any squads of govt thought police abducting people to death camps and there doesn't seem to be any censorship of things said about them... If so, then half the people arguing about this probably wouldn't be allowed to.

But one thing I do see is the normal, and almost immediate, internet response of comparing what one does not like to Nazi Germany...

MargieOliveira
MargieOliveira

@ClearAsDay @MargieOliveira You Americans want your rights protected and everything else to, and then insist that you have to do nothing to gain all that you want and desire because you were born on a certain soil. It's ok for the military to make sacrifices on our behalf but no way should any one else have to make any. A prime example is after 9/11 and the security changed regarding the airports and airlines, all Americans bitched because it interfered with their freedom. Their statement was just make the planes safe and expect none of us to make changes or be inconvenienced in any way. Believe me I understand and appreciate my freedom, but I also understand that maybe there are times I too will need to make sacrifices for the good of all.

MargieOliveira
MargieOliveira

@rthune77 @MargieOliveira Ben Franklin doesn't live in todays society where there is more evil than ever before. If he had he might being saying, if only we could have listened in on the conversations of those evil monsters who killed so many people.

rthune77
rthune77

@TimothyCollins @rthune77 @mysenmen Did you notice the patriot act and it's secret courts? The tremendous new executive powers of the last two administrations, ala drone strikes and surveillance? How do you see increased surveillance as not increased authoritarianism?


Quite frankly your restriction of arguments to what you personally have seen is very troublesome. I have seen a lot worse than what I personally have endured, but I have been frisked at airports. You also paint what are historically valid concerns as "paranoid fantasies" even though you can't think of an example where what is beginning to happen here did not end badly.


I'm not advocating revolution or tinfoil head gear, but I am upset with the amount of increased government authority, and especially with how some jerks are trying to use it.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@rthune77 @TimothyCollins @mysenmen Not offhand. But the weird thing here is that I have not seen the govt become more authoritarian... 

All I am suggesting is that we have a discussion in this country about "what is" rather than "What might be".

What the NSA is doing bothers me. But I restrict my argument to what they are doing rather than what paranoid fantasies I might think up could lead to. I can tell the difference...

rthune77
rthune77

@TimothyCollins @mysenmen Well here is a fun thought exercise then, can you list any incidence where a government became more authoritarian in its treatment of it's citizens that didn't end in the destruction of the government? Usually after a war or some really horrible treatment of the citizens. I can show rather a lot of things progressing as described above.

commonsenseforcommongood
commonsenseforcommongood

@TimothyCollins @andy1188 There is yet to be a conspiracy theory that wasn't preceded by it's matching historical and factual equivalent. History has also shown those who chronically decry valid concerns as "conspiracy theories" had vested interests in perpetuating those actual conspiracies.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@andy1188 I mean, the very fact that you are publicly debating what the NSA is doing and are opposed to them - and not one thing has happened to you - tells me that none of your freedom of speech has been hurt one iota. Which is not something that could be said if your immediate comparison the Nazi Germany was valid.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@andy1188 @TimothyCollins I contend that not a single bit of my freedom has been hurt. I can write, say and scream "The NSA ought to have it's balls kicked!" and you know what? I won't get a knock on the door tonight. Neither will you.

Like I said - we can have a discussion about what the NSA is doing and whether it is necessary or not. But not if you are going to jump to the point of deciding your worst paranoid fantasies are already fulfilled.

andy1188
andy1188

@TimothyCollins Once again...It's about protecting freedom. No conspiracies here. It is easy to give away freedom and very hard to get it back. 

Loss of freedom can manifest itself in many ways besides, "squads of govt thought police abducting people to death camps."


TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@andy1188 Here's the thing - you can certainly argue that what the NSA is doing is something you don't like and think that they shouldn't do. That is perfectly within the boundaries of a valid discussion. But allowing paranoid fantasies about what might happen to be the basis for what you think is going on right now is really not a valid basis for discussion.

When you can tell the difference, we can talk. Until then, I am assuming you are a weird conspiracy theory touting tea party member.

andy1188
andy1188

@TimothyCollins @dr.vagabond.md Once that happens, it will already be too late. It's about protecting freedom, not being complacent....

Since you referenced Nazi Germany...Hitler did not start committing genocide as his first order of business. There were many small steps to lead to such atrocities.