Morning Must Reads: November 15

In the news: an Obamacare "fix," the next Bin Laden, China's new child and labor camp laws, the Yellen Doctrine, and Bills Gates and Clinton on the NSA, safe sex, and American exceptionalism

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • Obama Offers Partial ‘Fix’ To ‘You Can Keep It’ Health Care Promise [TIME]
    • Obama fights to hold the Hill [TIME]
    • Obamacare’s launch fiasco will haunt us for years to come [New Republic]
  • China’s leaders have agreed to allow couples to have two children if one of the parents is an only child. They’ve also begun plans to abolish a controversial labor camp system. [WSJ]
  • Typhoon Haiyan and the Philippines: Stress Test [Economist]
  • The Next Bin Laden [National Journal]
  • “The Central Intelligence Agency is secretly collecting bulk records of international money transfers handled by companies like Western Union—including transactions into and out of the United States—under the same law that the National Security Agency uses for its huge database of Americans’ phone records…” [NYT]
  • “Secret Service agents and managers have engaged in sexual misconduct and other improprieties across a span of 17 countries in recent years…” [WashPost]
  • Obama vs. the Generals [Politico]
  • The Yellen Doctrine [New Yorker]
  • The 15 Most Popular Cities for Millenials (D.C. Is #1) [Atlantic]
  • Bill Gates and President Bill Clinton on the NSA, Safe Sex, and American Exceptionalism [Wired]
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barneydidit
barneydidit

I love this Conservative narrative of Obama's statement about Americans being able to keep their policies if they like them being a "huge lie".  Just like his "you didn't build that" statement, Conservatives are simply pretending that context (like the deficit when Cheney was in charge) doesn't matter.  Obama was trying to point out the fact that unlike the Public Option that the GOP pretended was going to make people lose their private insurance when the big, incompetent government took over health care, the ACA was only going to be a way for people to get insurance if they couldn't otherwise, and was NOT a "big government takeover of their healthcare". 

Obama's mistake was in assuming that a sizable portion of the country knew that he had no ability to force insurance companies to keep people's policies exactly the same if they had an opportunity to gouge people by telling them Obamacare was making them do it. Well...that and in thinking that Republicans wouldn't try to make a failure to go into extensive detail on every possible insurance company outcome when he described his plan into a "huge lie". 

MrObvious
MrObvious

I told you Colli would start using the word 'the hive'. Sign him up as just another zombie 'winger.

Didn't take too long either. He reeks of a returner.

fitty_three
fitty_three

Will God please explain to me how a rich guy living in France who only listens to FOX and has never had to really work in his life can ever have a perspective on the problems of the middle class, the poor, and the black community?

I'd really like to know!

fitty_three
fitty_three

Just FYI, here in the State of Washington, we've had none of the problems that other states have had.  NONE.

My nephew signed up Monday last week and he received his Obamacare Medicaid card together with the and award and approval letters from the Feds and the State yesterday.

Eff you, @collioure 

roknsteve
roknsteve

Y0oung people don't need health care because they never get in car accidents or get sick etc.  Not!

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

The heart of the Tea Party and who the GOP is now pandering to

Meet the angriest white men

Up close with small-town white rage, with bitter, scary men who feel left behind by economic and cultural change

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

Alright off to meet my sister visiting from Oregon for brunch.

Nice catching up with most of you. :)

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure' s Chestnut Of The Month

"I don't  play the link game, esp when the object is to discredit a fact widely reported in the mainstream news."

fitty_three
fitty_three

As a consolation prize, I'll accept an explanation of how a guy who is black and Italian who believes in all the explanations put forth by VDARE about black Americans ever tell me he's open minded and not a hypocrite?

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, my son moved out last November. He doesn't have any healthcare coverage. I had to pick up a fairly sizeable bill for a trip to the hospital last January ($700). I've been on his case fairly often to sign up for coverage. He says it will put a crimp in his entertainment budget if he does so he says he'll probably just pay the fine. I told him last week that it will cost him $20,000 a year NOT to pick it up before January 1st. He told me I was crazy. I told him that was how much I was going to cut out of his inheritence each Jauary 1st until he signed up. I told him that if he thought I was bluffing, to name me one single time I've not carried through with a threat. He says he'll sign up. Kids.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, when the problems get ironed out, it's going to be pointless for the GOP to keep wailing about the rollout. They'll do it anyway because they're not that bright.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@roknsteve And of course they shouldn't take advantage of their spectacularly low premium rates now, in an effort to help the program as a whole work as intended...because they're never going to grow old and be the ones skewing the health care costs toward their end of the spectrum. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@roknsteve, too many young people think that they'll never get sick and will live forever. It's never happened even once, but hey, there's always a first time. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@mantisdragon91, the guy I'm working with is reading "Atlas Shrugged" for the first time. He hates her already and he's only 200 pages into it. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@mantisdragon91,

From the article:

"They’re certainly Christian, but not just any Christian—they’re evangelical Protestant, Pentacostalist, and members of radical sects that preach racial purity as the Word of Jesus."

The country is leaving them behind and they can't deal with it. They represent the ugly past at least some part of their tiny brains realize that they're a minority. And we all know how THEY treat minorities.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@fitty_three @collioure  

This isn't the first time he's admitted that.  Just be aware that if you try to engage him he'll ignore anything you post and just start throwing out childish insults.  He's not worth it.

notsacredh
notsacredh

If anybody can beat Obama in 2016, It's Ryan.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

"Hard heads need heavy hammers, sometimes."

~Zeus or Thor, or someone, I forgot. Or, gawd forbid, Rand Paul; - )

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

The Angry White Male is a very old meme dating from the '70s to the '80s.  This is absolutely no surprise at all.

Not to minimize the problem because the legacy is a very large number of white Americans who've been indoctrinated over the years to Southern Strategy talking points and are literally blind to the real issues and values that black Americans hold - which is, in fact, identical to that of the white Americans.

It's embarrassing to me, it will take another 40 years to complete the healing that should have taken place because of it.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@DonQuixotic 

That's why it's his Chestnut Of The Month; - )

He's lost his luster. All he's got is bluster.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I think Ryan has a chance to edge Obama out.

After all, there is the voter suppression laws to consider.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@sacredh Only if he picks his running mate wisely. Bachmann would probably balance out his weaknesses pretty well I'd think. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, have fun. I have to jump in the shower and then head out to work. It's raining, but at least it's in the low 50's.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, threats mean nothing unless you follow through. After I hooked it up in my bedroom, I had him come down and listen to how great it sounded. He didn't say a word.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I'd say something about stubbornness too but I think that Rand Paul might sue me.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, several years ago he wanted a surround sound system for the tv in his bedroom for Christmas. He even picked out the one he wanted. I bought it just after Thanksgiving and wrapped it up. All I asked him to do to earn it was to keep his room clean for a month. That surround sound system is in my bedroom. I bought him a cheap one for Christmas because he didn't even try to keep it clean.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

Unabashedly, too, and even though I don't smoke.

I guess that makes me a hypocrite, huh?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

Washington State had the hempfest here in August.  The police had an informational program in which the out-of-staters received flyers and informational packets from our (truly) freindly men in blue.

They called it Operation Orange Fingers because when you eat Doritos or Cheetos after getting stoned, your fingers are orange.

I'm promoting it as Washington State's new slogan.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

And I think we both know just exactly where the blame for that lies.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, in less than 40 years whites will be the minority. We've known this for years and years because of the demographic changes and birth rates. I seriously doubt if more than one or two of the people I work with know this. I'd be willing to bet that a huge majority of white Americans don't realize how close this shift is. It's not a big deal to most of us because we already think that people are just people no matter what they skin color or ethnicity is.For racist American, this is going to be their worst nightmare come true.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91 

I'm ready to join the Canadicans in poffing him when he gets paulejb-ish, like his bolded bs below.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, they involved your post about plugging holes and what the little Dutch boy stuck his finger in. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@fitty_three, yes. I can't figure out how to say what I wanted to without it sending my posts to hell.

notsacredh
notsacredh

I'm losing posts left and right to moderation.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

You didn't realize that there are five holes in my boat.  I keep them all plugged with one appendage or another.; - )

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Paul,nnto 

Yup. I know which side of my bread has the butter. Those two make me feel like I'm in a rowboat.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Paul,nnto  

DonQuixotic.  He's got 28,800 and he's not ashamed to take yours too; - )

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  @Paul,nnto 

It's been like that everywhere.  Swampland, my job, neighbors, just friends coming out of the woodwork everywhere. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@Paul,nnto, when we heard, MMRs just stopped. The only posts after that were condolences. KT and Alex posted too. It's kind of like family here.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

My sisters' name too! It's a popular name. Helping with the planning was actually fun. We had crises but I've learned from work how to do the "toothskin scheduling" thing when you're getting ready to do a presentation, which this was almost like.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

It was great. Half of Debbie's family on her dad's side came, all the Robinsons on her mom's side my closest friends and a few people I hadn't seen in years.

Then we all came up here and ate and talked till about eight last night.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure She is also in the midst of an ethics investigation, much like Palin was when she quit her job.