Morning Must Reads: November 14

In the news: congressional budget talks; Euro-Zone recovery; Hill Dems' ACA rebellion; 50 years after JFK's death

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

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MrObvious
MrObvious

@collioure @MrObvious @Sue_N

It was just three years ago.

My, you have a short memory.


3 years ago? Did you fall on your head or something because it is known to be bad for you.

collioure
collioure

@roknsteve @collioure @MrObvious @Sue_N  

I am not going to question your competence, but you must live in an alternate universe not to understand that Democrats today are under some pressure because of all these insurance policy cancellations and that they are fearful of losing their seats next November.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@collioure @MrObvious @Sue_N 

The dems got a shellacking in the shut down debacle?

Jesus, for a 'winger you're pretty dense. There's about no poll numbers that support that unless you pull another uninformed faith based opinion out of your @ss.

That 'unless' is of course rhetorical. France deserve you.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Sue_N 

Amazing ain't it? Did they not learn anything from the shut down?

Sue_N
Sue_N

@collioure @roknsteve @MrObvious @Sue_N The insurance policy cancellation thing is a totally manufactured issue. The problem affects less than 5 percent of the population, and most of those people will be able to find better policies through the exchanges. It's overreaction and laziness on the part of the media and cowardice on the part of the Dems.

It is a terrible idea to let insurance companies continue to sell crap policies, and, frankly, it is telling that the Republican party and wingers like you are in favor of insurance companies being allowed to sell policies that cover nothing.

It is also laughable that Republicans and wingers like you now express such concern about people losing insurance. Where was all this concern before the ACA was passed, when insurance companies were dropping people left and right for the sin of getting sick, when people were getting denied coverage on a regular basis because of pre-existing conditions, or when people were declaring bankruptcy because they or a loved one got sick and insurance didn't cover it?

The GOP doesn't care about that miniscule sliver of the American population. You don't care. You've got yours, so eff them. You just see another club with which to bash Obama.

Winger.

collioure
collioure

@Sue_N @collioure @roknsteve @MrObvious  

This isn't abut Republicans.  It is all about Democrats because they put this in motion and because some of them are running for their lives today.

Now it's going to be a lot more than 5%.  

Secondly, there are going to be a lot of people angered because they know they were lied to about keeping their insurance/doctor.

Thirdly, many will be miffed because their rates will rise to cover the unhealthy. when they were told just the opposite would happen.

If this gets up and runs well, I'll be the first to salute Obama.  However, it's not happening yet and it's in rough seas because it was oversold

WITH LIES !!!!!!

MrObvious
MrObvious

@collioure @Sue_N @roknsteve @MrObvious

This isn't abut Republicans.  It is all about Democrats

You don't play no partisan games, no sir.

Now it's going to be a lot more than 5%.  

Not really. If the insurance companies touch the group insurance market they'll lose billions.

It's easy to play politics over junk insurances - but screwing over their bread and butters comes with consequences.

Stick to France. You barely know that and that's about the best you can do.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@MrObvious @Sue_N I had such hope for them after the shutdown. They hung together beautifully! But now they've reverted to (gutless) form.

The infuriating thing is that by the midterms, which are still almost a full year away, neither the website nor policy cancellations will be an issue.

Stupid Democrats.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Sue_N @MrObvious 

I don't understand why they keep being fearful over Obamacare? Obama won twice and it was litigated again through the shut down. It's not the thing on most peoples minds. Sure, the snafus sucks but people want healthcare insurance and they clearly thought that the shut down over Obamacare was wrong on every single level.

The bleaters will always bleat. They'll hate what they get, love it but still hate it. See old folks and Medicare. They want government to stay away from it.

And now these bluedog fools are once more making dems look like a bunch of wimps.

curt3rd
curt3rd

@Sue_N Yeah, because god forbid someone in their 60's doesnt have prenatal healthcare coverage.  That is what you call a substandard plan, right?

curt3rd
curt3rd

@Sue_N @curt3rd I understand that I should have a choice in what I choose the buy.  Not be forced by the govt.  You do understand how that should work, dont you?

paulejb
paulejb

@Sue_N @paulejb @curt3rd 

And what if our lesbian heroine does not wish to pay for erectile dysfunction treatments. Shouldn't she have the right to choose?

Sue_N
Sue_N

@paulejb @curt3rd @Sue_N I hate to break it to you two lovebirds, but if a lesbian has an insurance policy that covers erectile dysfunction treatments, then she is paying for it. Just as my policy pays for prostate cancer treatments.

Seriously, are y'all really this stupid, or do you just play imbeciles on the intertoobz?

MementoMori
MementoMori

@curt3rd @Sue_N  Uhmmm, do you know how insurance works? You're not just covered for the stuff you're going to get.

Unless you don't think prostate cancer should be covered by anyone under 40 and/or a woman?

Sue_N
Sue_N

@curt3rd @Sue_N If it does not meet the minimum federal standards, then, yes, it is a substandard plan.

You do realize that they don't design individual plans for every single individual, right? Do you get that? Or is it just easier for you to parrot rightwing talking points than to actually understand how insurance works?

MementoMori
MementoMori

@curt3rd @Sue_N 

And that's why curt doesn't drive a car. Because the government forces him to buy car insurance to do so.

PerryWhite1
PerryWhite1

@Sue_N @MementoMori @curt3rd I want my tax money back for the Iraq War! I didn't want us to go there! I should only have to pay taxes for things I want or use!


Oh, wait, Bush didn't pay for Iraq anyway. Never mind.