Ted Cruz Spins Shutdown as a Success

It got people talking, he says

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U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) speaks at the annual Ronald Reagan Commemorative Dinner on, October 25, 2013 in Des Moines, Iowa

Texas Senator Ted Cruz argued to powerful Iowa Republicans on Friday and that the partial government shutdown was a triumph because it got people talking, despite the fact that it ended in a compromise that funded the healthcare law he vowed to block.

“We elevated the national debate over what a disaster, what a train wreck, how much Obamacare is hurting millions of Americans across the country,” Cruz told around 600 Iowa Republicans at the state GOP’s annual fund raising dinner.

It was unclear whether Cruz intended to continue his crusade to defund the healthcare law. “There will be plenty of time the coming months to talk about specific tactics and strategies,” he told the Associated Press. 

[AP]

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drudown
drudown

The very notion that "shutting down" the government- that is, leading to $24 billion in direct losses and incalculable indirect losses- was in any way shape or form "good"- much less "lawful"- is just asinine given that Article I, Section 8's plain language REQUIRES Congress to RAISE REVENUE for the Common Defense and People's General Welfare. 

Enough of this shopworn Fairness Act-less Media narrative that the GOP's refusal to perform its prescribed Constitutional duties somehow "depends" on the "political aspirations" or Sen. Cruz or, more recently, Congressman Paul Ryan. Get real. The entire BODY of the United States Congress has a FIDUCIARY DUTY to the People and swore an OATH of LOYALTY to the Constitution as a condition precedent of serving in public office. 

As such, who cares whether Cruz or Ryan or Boehner "desires to run for President" or work on K St? It is immaterial to the EXPRESS legal obligations of their current JOBS, i.e., just as a Federal Magistrate MUST do his/her JOB on a DAILY basis, so too, must these PUBLIC SERVANTS do their prescribed DUTIES while in office. It is simply disingenuous for ANY member of Congress to cite his/her "ideological" principles as, what, superseding the rule of law? 

Enough of this super-PAC-driven gridlock. Do your job or America is going to be WEAKER and LESS COMPETITIVE because your Foreign money donors are bribing you into complacency. 

By way of example, what possible relevance does "additional testimony" on "what happened in Benghazi" have when juxtaposed against additional Sequester cuts- much less fabricated need to "shut down" the Federal government? 

(sigh.)

You should be ashamed of yourself, Lindsay Graham. You subvert the express intent of our Founding Fathers over nothing. Absolutely NOTHING gives you any self-perceived discretion to subvert the "Advice and Consent" function of the Senate over some fabricated Benghazi red herring. 

"Thy love afar is spite at home." - Emerson

Afreedomfighter88
Afreedomfighter88

The REAL Tea Party: 1773 A group of protesters trying to express discontent with the corporate controlled government broke into a corporate storehouse. After subduing the security guards several of the protesters held them hostage while they occupied the premises for some 2 hours. During the occupation the protesters destroyed the entire valuable contents of the storehouse. The occupiers said this was to express discontent with what they feel is unfair corporate control of their government. When the occupation was finished the protesters released the security guards shaken, but unharmed. They did this as a message to their government that they are fed up with the status quo. Fed up with corporations controlling the government without proper representation for the people.

Tommy34684
Tommy34684

After watching and listening to this guy and his father I began to think about Castro. No wonder he had to take over and gain full control of Cuba. Can you imagine having people think like Cruz and his dad? Outspoken, complete hatred of leadership, disagreeing with anything and everything?  I don't see how Cruz convinced enough voters to elect him and I sure hope they find anyone else to vote for next time around.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Who's success, dems or GOPers?

Cause with record low popularity, worse for the teabillies and about no one other then his wife, kids and base liking him, one truly have to redefine the word success to get whatever Cruz did to anything positive.

As a liberal I look forward to more of their winning.

republicanssuck
republicanssuck

The Tea Party is a group of Republican radical outliers who view Rep. Cruz as their Messiah in every sense of the word. I doubt that Rep. Cruz will ever ascend to heaven, but will find a "warm" and not so comfortable seat next to other Ivy league attorneys, bankers, corporate MBA's, Ponzi scheme aficionados [who voted for Republicans], and Republicans who  vote for measures that screw the common person [for example, affordable health care] but pretend to care about the common person however, aspire to congress. Their final destination is HELL. Now give this some thought, why would an individual take a major pay cut, or not need the salary offered to a congressperson?Hey, one who has patience can steal more over the long run. Why be a pauper, or if already rich, [a significant number of individuals in Congress are millionaires] why  sweat it?Time to take care of your one-percenter peeps…

Lar5
Lar5

What is successful about shooting a missile at a target and having it  reverse course and  hit you back in the head? Sounds pretty idiotic and dumb

republicanssuck
republicanssuck

A quick aside, please notice that a significant number of congresspersons and university presidents,  as well  as US presidents are graduates of  Ivy league institutions.  In fact,  a good number of individuals implicated in the 2008 economic collapse were graduates of Ivy league schools as well.  So, what's the inference from this data, only you can decide...

republicanssuck
republicanssuck

What's really interesting about Representative Cruz, who is interestingly of Hispanic ancestry, is his ideological and legislative agenda,  that's diametrically opposed to the disenfranchised members of his ethnic and cultural heritage, that is, those  brothers and sisters under  appreciated  for their contribution to the Texas economy.  Even George Bush was sensitive to the plight of Mexicans in his  social policies while governor of Texas, If one stops for a moment, and recognizes, that individuals who support their people, historically have been associated with a version of what we today call the Democratic party, it again calls into question Mr. Cruz's political aspirations, which seem more about Ted than his constituents.

republicanssuck
republicanssuck

Ted Cruz is by no means a stupid or ignorant man [e.g., he is a  graduate of both Harvard and Yale universities.]  So why would he be advocating for a policy, that on its face, seems ill advised, and harmful to the disenfranchised? Well, as an old and venerated colleague of mine once said, "follow the money..."

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Custer thought Little Big Horn was a success as well. Up until the scalping.

Skinnycat
Skinnycat

Really, Senator Cruz?  to the tune of $24 billion?  And you and yours want to balance the budget and cut out so called "frivlous spending"?  Strange way to go about it.

Mr_Scorpio
Mr_Scorpio

When a con man finds a home in the Republican party, he really fits like a hand in glove. 

P.T. Barnum would be really proud of Cruz. 

T.P.Chia
T.P.Chia

Senator Ted Cruz's assertion that the Affordable Care Act is hurting millions of Americans, and is an impediment to economic growth is totally untrue.  No informed and thinking Americans would fall victim to his false accusation and distortion-propaganda. And it is shameless of him to claim that the shutdown was a success--it got people talking.  The fact is that it has badly damaged the GOP, and outrageously betrayed the interests of the American people and the United States of America.

If harming America is a worthwhile cause, Cruz should be congratulated for having done a good job. The fact is that what he has done, and is doing, is ideologically extreme and politically irresponsible--an unpatriotic and un-American act.  At the expense of the spirit of American democracy, Cruz seems to have been carried away by his ideological extremism and political ambitions that he is willing to do anything against the general welfare and common good of the people and the nation.

Cruz may be the hero of a minority of ultra-conservative Republicans, but he will certainly be rejected by the American electorate if he is a presidential candidate in 2016.

Curious_Quiche
Curious_Quiche

If your read Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and replace the words Third Reich with the words Tea Party, it still makes sense. You just wonder why there are so many Texans with umlauts in their names.

j45ashton
j45ashton

Think about it.  During the time the Bush admin was mishandling Kartina (remember, 'you;re doing a hell of a job, Brownie' while people were dying), Geo W's approval; rating dropped to 19%.  Lower than Nixon's.  This means that 19% of the adult population (some 30 million people) will support any conservative no matter how incompetent or crazy.  You see some of these people post here.  Unfortunately people as crazy as Cruz or Joe McCarthy get a lot of press when in positions of power.  So we keep getting a constant barrage of media coverage for this dufo. I know it's not possible, but God-willing all this attention-getting coverage will stop,  So sick of seeing this ultimately inconsequential jerk.

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

New drinking game: every time you hear Ted Cruze utter the phrase "train wreck," bottom's up. Maybe that will make the lying egomaniac more tolerable.

tsvskibum
tsvskibum

There is a village in Texas that seems to be missing its idiot... he thinks he's the Junior Senator from Texas

DavidStrayer
DavidStrayer

This is a loser's spin.  It's like saying that Romney's campaign was successful because it made people think about the election.

However, the more Cruz talks, the better the Democrats will do.  His continued prominence in the news is a perfect illustration of the fact that the Republican party isn't ready for prime time.  The so-called "adults" in the GOP didn't, and don't, have the courage to face up to the likes of demagogues like Cruz and Paul and Palin, just as the Republicans of another era didn't have the courage to face up to Joe McCarthy.

Either the Republicans will act like responsible partners in government or they'll continue to sprout showmen like Cruz and the others whose main agenda item is their own egos.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

Ted Cruz's goal was to elevate Ted Cruz among the mouth breathers. Thus it was a resounding success. 

daneh77
daneh77

This guy’s ego is bigger than Hiroshima.

spankybulldog
spankybulldog

This guy is a Fu**ing nut 

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billbear1961
billbear1961

A success? Well, then, he should try it again and again--until he has completely destroyed his useless and evil party.

It's a little like saying starvation will help you to lose weight. Yes, it will, but not in the way you'd like.

People are talking? YES, THEY ARE! They're telling one another--warning one another--about how recklessly dangerous the baggers have truly become!

DougH2
DougH2

@Afreedomfighter88  BTW, the also dressed as Indians to shift the blame.  This is much like Republicans did when then planned the shutdown since the 2010 election cycle but blamed the shutdown on the Democrats when they finally carried out their plan.

cobrajohn
cobrajohn

@tkulaga So if you were in Cuba at that time you would have stood up for Castro, either because you are a coward or you agree with hin. Either way you are inept. Cruz is a hero to half the country and you are a stain on moral values.


republicanssuck
republicanssuck

@Lar5  

I take it that you've had an elementary school education, or grew up in the South, and have been exposed to a steady diet of Rush, etc.

jeffrey.davis728
jeffrey.davis728

@T.P.Chia We used to call "harming America or American interests" TREASON. Not so much anymore, at least the GOP doesn't. If Al Qaeda had managed to shut the US government down, and have the world seriously thinking that the US might really default on its debt, we'd be nuking some innocent Middle East country right about now.

billbear1961
billbear1961

@j45ashton Unfortunately, the media want a CIRCUS.

Many "journalists" no longer really care about the country. They want ratings--period. That's why we keep hearing from airheads like Palin in the news. She makes no useful contribution, whatsoever. But she adds to the crazy circus environment. You might as well ask a TURNIP for its political opinions. Hell, they WOULD if they thought people would listen!!

If reporters cared, they'd do their JOBS, and expose all the lies and misinformation spewed by the radical right and their 24/7 propaganda machine.

That propaganda has done tremendous damage to this country and, in many ways, led directly to the recent GOP coup attempt.

It was a sad day when they demolished the Fairness Doctrine back in the '80s under Reagan.

If the few REAL journalists remaining don't get serious about holding propagandists accountable, if they don't start to EXPOSE what they're up to in a meaningful way that cannot be dismissed or ignored by the public, our problems will continue.

Walter Cronkite must be turning in his grave.

Ohiolib
Ohiolib

@j45ashton I see it as the exact opposite: yes, these roaches are repulsive, but only by putting them front and center in the media can they be forced to scurry back under their moral and mental rock. It sucks, but Ted Cruz, Don Yelton, Wacky Bachy, and the rest of the anti-freedom crowd will destroy themselves far more effectively than any amount of outside pressure ever could. 

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

@j45ashton"...God-willing all this attention-getting coverage will stop..."

Unfortunately, even the non-Republican-propaganda media is committed to constantly yammering about two-party atmospherics. No matter how traitorous, asinine and dishonest, they must pretend the right-wing side is legitimate. It's all they've got.

jamesgordon777
jamesgordon777

@DavidFarrar Let  the  record  reflect  ted is  still a  nut , He is  the  head  nut , their  goal is  to be  even nuttier

demz.taters
demz.taters

@spankybulldog Here's an even better idea - why not become an informed voter who actually researches candidates and issues?

jmac
jmac

@spankybulldog  THat's how we got Senator Mike Lee in Utah.   He replaced a very conservative Senator.  That's how we got Ted Cruz in Texas.    He ran against a semi- moderate in the primaries.  

So keep shouting.   You and Palin are doing a good job of destroying a party.   

Gracchus
Gracchus

Stop licking the boot and look up what the Tea Party actually represents. Learn to do your own research instead of listening to progressives that feed you this nonsense propaganda that the Nazis did.

cobrajohn
cobrajohn

@DougH2 @Afreedomfighter88 You are an idiot. The shutdown was created by the Obama White House that said we will not negotiate. Who does that sound like shutdown the government! Also about 12 bills were passed the House and were not passed in the Senate by the Democrats. These were important bills to keep open needed parts of the federal goernment, like the funding for the National Parks. The only bill the Democrats passed was to fund the military. They knew they would be chastised for not passing it, but none of the rest. Once again, you are an idiot. What is your reason that says the Republicans caused the shutdown! I have a lot more.

Tommy34684
Tommy34684

@cobrajohn @tkulaga I have or show that I have no skill? Cruz is a hero to half the country? hahaha. Where did you get your polling numbers? Cruz and his father? Rubio? You got to be reading bathroom walls again.

cobrajohn
cobrajohn

@tkulagaAnd if you think Obama is a good President, you haven't followed what he has been doing to our country. Mandates are made and then not mandated for certain of Obama friend. Ask the Teamsters about those exceptions. They will tell you where to go or will gladly take you. And these are the people that supported Obama. Did you see 60 minutes this last week. The men on the scene in Benghazi! Tell me after that, that he doesn't deserve to be impeached. If you don't think so you also are a traitor. We should have helped them. Others came in to help, former Navy seals that didn't listen to standdown orders and were able to keep the muslim brotherhood and Al Qaeda back for a while. But were killed after 7 hours, waiting for help to arrive. They were told no help was coming. But people wanted to help!     

BENGHAZI PURGE - GEN. HAM RUMORED TO HAVE
WANTED TO RESCUE TRAPPED AMERICANS - NOW
REPLACED - REAR ADMIRAL CHARLES GAOUETTE
REMOVED FOR "INAPPROPRIATE LEADERSHIP
JUDGEMENT" - WHO'S NEXT? - NEWS REPORTS
OBAMA WATCHED DRONE VIDEO IN "REAL TIME"
WHO NIXED SENDING SPECTRE GUNSHIP?
REACTION FORCE COULD HAVE SAVED LIVES
DID RISK OF REPEAT 1980 DELTA FORCE DISASTER
IN IRANIAN DESERT CAUSE "COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF"
TO ORDER NO HELP BE SENT - COVER-UP WORSE
THAN WATERGATE < - NO ONE DIED THERE

Lar5
Lar5

@republicanssuck @Lar5 You did not see my correction :What is successful about  Cruz shooting a missile at a target and having it  reverse course and  hit him back in the head? Sounds pretty idiotic and dumb. 

j45ashton
j45ashton

@billbear1961 @j45ashton It's a media circus.  There's no doubt about,  I don't see it stopping.  Every media outlet is like a carnival barker trying to get attention.  I would just be happy if some of the non-Fox outlets starting putting conservatives on the hot seat the way that Fox interviewers are more than happy to democrats and independents on the defensive. And this business of promoting politically correct balance is ridiculous, untruthful and offensive.  Listening to John King on CNN say that democrats are as much to blame as Republicans for gridlock is really enough to make you sick, 

j45ashton
j45ashton

@Ohiolib @j45ashton I know there's a buzz going around that pulling out the Hitler analogy is an immediate sign of extremity on the accuser side.  But when I look as Ted Cruz' background & determination & what he stands for, I'm more than concerned.  It's not that these people don't burn themselves out or get stamped out eventually.  It's what they put the rest of us through before they do.

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

@Ohiolib"these roaches are repulsive, but only by putting them front and center in the media can they be forced to scurry back under their moral and mental rock."

Take your point, but that means that mainstream, popular Beltway "journalists" need to tell the truth about Republican liars, which is something they are almost never willing to do (yes, I'm talking to you Brian Williams, David Gregory, Chuck Todd, et al). Calling something "spin" (see above) is about as close as you're likely to get, while the main lie: “...what a train wreck, how much Obamacare is hurting millions of Americans across the country,” is avoided altogether. It's the Beltway press habit catapulting what Republicans say while avoiding the ugly truth about it's falseness that has been wrecking the country since the post-Watergate era.

billbear1961
billbear1961

@Gracchus It's the GOP behaving like Nazis, attempting a coup to subvert normal democratic government and threatening to DESTROY their own country's economic LIFE in an effort to EXTORT changes in the law of the land, an act of SEDITION for which they should be arrested and put on trial!

They intend to SABOTAGE democratic government with their endless and mindless obstructionism and lies, and to spread chaos and fear as they did with the shutdown and the threat to default, which was a dereliction of their constitutional DUTY to defend the validity of the U.S. public debt!

The baggers mean to destroy our republic as the Nazis destroyed Weimar! It is the goal of their fascist doctrine of "fundamental transformation."

They are the ENEMY WITHIN, and pose the gravest threat to our democracy since the Civil War.

Tommy34684
Tommy34684

@cobrajohn @tkulaga Teamsters  and other union members do not need Obamacare, they get insurance thru their employers. Join a union and find out for yourself.

Those who served in Berlin before the wall was torn down had a life expectancy of 5 minutes if attacked. Don't tell me about Benghazi. I can tell you never served in the military or our country, you have no clue what you write about.

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

@Ohiolib"As long as they keep spewing their stupidity and hate, the public will eventually catch on that they might, just might, be liars."

I sure hope you're right. They do seem, finally, to be getting some idea. Though, keep in mind, that happened under Bush/Cheney and the Republican-controlled Congress for six years until they threw the bums out and gave the government to Democrats...for two years. Meanwhile, before and after, a lot of damage is already done.

Ohiolib
Ohiolib

@shepherdwong @Ohiolib The media doesn't need to do anything here. As long as they keep spewing their stupidity and hate, the public will eventually catch on that they might, just might, be liars. However, it would certainly help if the media did their job. 

jmac
jmac

@jamesgordon777 @jmac @spankybulldog  What's your beef with Democrats?  They went center.  They compromise.  

What in the heck do you think a new party would be?  Extreme left?  Extreme right?  BEcause if you want center,  one of the two parties is there. 

billbear1961
billbear1961

@demz.taters @billbear1961 @Gracchus Oh, yes, sir, it does!

Scary as hell!

demz.taters
demz.taters

@billbear1961 @Gracchus Nazism was a millenarian movement. These are characterized by the belief that the current order has become irredeemably corrupt, and that it was brought about through the influence of certain "foreign" or immoral forces that challenge the "true" values of the movement. That they suffer intense victimization at the hands of these forces. And that restoration to some former glory can only be accomplished through their committed efforts at its destruction.

Sound like anyone we know?

Gracchus
Gracchus

If you cannot prove me wrong or even prove that I did research from a 'comic strip'. Then please explain why you are commenting. Try and make more sense instead of ignorant replies.

Cyssi
Cyssi

@Gracchus If you don't understand what I'm alluding to, no elaboration will help.

Cyssi
Cyssi

@Gracchus I can only assume that your 'research' came from comic strips.

Gracchus
Gracchus

The Tea Party is not a branch of the GOP. It's a branch of the Republican party. They are funded by two different organizations. To billy... What choice did they have if they didn't want Obamacare but they were not threatening default, they were trying to get the president to negotiate. But no like Harry Reid had said, "its my way or the highway". Ted Cruz had never threatened default. Like i said do the research for once.

jmac
jmac

@Gracchus He/She's  an idiot.  It was the Tea Party branch of the GOP that put Boehner's head in a noose and now they're going to blame Boehner and not the The Party.    That's pretty much the base of the GOP - 30% are misinformed idiots.  

billbear1961
billbear1961

@Gracchus The GOP did what they did, Gracchus, because the Tea Party insisted!

Pal, where have you BEEN??

It was the baggers who were running the show!!!!

Gracchus
Gracchus

I agree with you, it was the GOP that threatened default. I already signed a petition to have John Boehner and other GOP members to be put on trial for treason. But the GOP is not the Tea Party.