Morning Must Reads: October 25

In the news: Edward Snowden leaks cause European outcry; Syria; ObamaCare contractors; How Washington is killing the economy; Twitter's $10.9 billion IPO

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • “U.S. officials are alerting some foreign intelligence services that documents detailing their secret cooperation with the United States have been obtained by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden…” [WashPost]
    • “European leaders expressed outrage and dismay at news that America may have been eavesdropping on the mobile telephone conversations of Angela Merkel, the German chancellor and Europe’s most powerful leader. For the first time since Edward Snowden’s revelations about wholesale surveillance broke last summer, the affair became the subject of conversations at the high table of European leaders.” [Economist]
  • “Some five million Syrians are now refugees in their own country, many living hand-to-mouth in vacant buildings, schools, mosques, parks and the cramped homes of relatives. Others are trapped in neighborhoods isolated by military blockades, beyond the reach of aid groups. Already desperately short of food and medicine as winter closes in, they could begin to succumb in greater numbers to hunger and exposure, aid workers say.” [NYT]
    • “In Syria, the number of political parties is skyrocketing: Dissidents estimate 200 parties have been established, each jockeying to present itself as the best alternative to President Bashar Assad’s government.” [L.A. Times]
  • Contractors Blame Feds for ObamaCare Snafu [TIME]
  • “A Game of Shark and Minnow: The shell of a forsaken ship has become a battleground in a struggle that could shape the future of the South China Sea and, to some extent, the rest of the world.” [NYT Magazine]
  • How Kirsten Gillibrand Shed Her Past on the Way to Liberal Stardom [National Journal]
  • Why Republicans Kill Their Darlings [National Journal]
  • How Washington is Killing the Economy [Politico]
    • Feds Act to Bolster Safety Net at Banks [WSJ]
  • “Twitter Inc.’s $10.9 billion initial public offering valuation is as economical as its 140-character tweets.” [Bloomberg]
1268 comments
sacredh
sacredh

My mouth is sore. Sucking on the government teat can be exhausting. Lucrative, but exhausting.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

Let me make this abundantly clear:

I have provided not only my 40 years of knowledge relating to the black community, but I have also provided an enormous body of reputable sources on nearly ever social and economic aspect of what has transpired with the black community in the US.  That body of knowledge is splattered all over the last 35 or so comments and consists of well over 70 total references.

You, on the other hand, have provided only second hand theories hatched in the minds of VDARE apologists and Southern Strategy talking heads. 

In short, you have presented nothing.  Not a single thing other than your willful ignorance and unwillingness to face the reality that you just do not know anything about this subject.

I'm pretty well done with it now, and I can judge correctly that you are willfully ignorant.

Until you show that you have greater respect than this for black Americans, I will no longer have anything to do with you.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

It's time to counter your bigotry:

*the murder rate in Chicago

Every economically emergent ethnic group over the entire history of the US has gone through a 30 to 60 year peariod of turning to the shadow economies in order to keep afloat in the face of discrimination. LOOK IT UP, BIGOT.

 *test scores of African-American children

Poverty does that. Again, all economically emergent ethnic groups have gone through a period of poverty. LOOK IT UP, BIGOT.

*the exorbitant rate of out-of-wedlock African-American births

When an ethnic group engages a shadow economy, and they wind up with a disproportionate segment in prison, that's a symptom.  The Star-of-David effect applies here: rampant discrimination aided by easy identification has kept the black community involved in the shadow economy.

*the unemployment rate of African-Americans

Another symptom of the high incarceration rate, which has been aided itself by preferentially harsher sentences, rampant racism, all aided by the Star-of-David effect.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

"I don't want to talk about history."

That's your problem: History proves you not only wrong, but ignorant.  Willfully ignorant.

"I want to talk about now.

And the GOP doesn't have much to do with it at all."

That is so patently ridiculous because fist:

You're trying to rewrite history against what historians actually say, so you are talking about history, but a totally imaginary one.  

And second:

All of the data and references below point a damning finger at your peers.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

Talk to me about black community issues after you've dumped your ignorant theories.  They are insulting at best, and fundamentally racist at worst. 

Get OFF your ass and start listening to real Americans who know history and are not paid to spout GOP talking points by FOX or EIB or some other GOP operative who wants them to spout niceties to salve the GOP base (pointed right at Alan Keyes in your "home state" - but he's only one of many)

Otherwise, eff off. You don't know sh!t.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Curly doesn't see race baiting on Fox. Of course he also doesn't understand why canceling early voting which has nothing to do with voter fraud, and drastically reducing the number of available polling places would disenfranchise minority voters. In shot. He doesn't see what he doesn't want to see.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three,

From the article:

"One woman explained why the performance was rejected by the Royal Albert Hall."

"You could say it was connected with sex," she said.

That made me laugh. So understated. So true. It's like saying the guy rampaging through a house, high on PCP and tearing everything up, "may not be thinking clearly".

sacredh
sacredh

Lou Reed's music often dealt with the other side of life that isn't celebrated. His songs of pain, loss, confusion and addiction touched a raw nerve and often made people uncomfortable. Life isn't always happy and comfortable. It has a dark side. Lou understood that and lived it. Lou was one of those rare one-of-a-kind artists that allow other artists the freedom to pass through the barricades that he trampled. He saw through the BS and put his heart into expressing it. You will be missed and always remembered. RIP Lou.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

It can make your teeth grow at crazy angles too, and eventually, they'll all fall out, I heard.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@fitty_three @collioure I've only scrolled down and read about a page or so. 

Please fitty:  hug your wife, bring her a hot-toddy, and kiss her good night. Then, go into your Dining Room, look that Table in the eye, and tell it what you've (exquisitely) told the troll. I believe the table stands a better chance of changing its mind. 

Stay strong. 

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

You're so brilliant, 53, that you can't see the forest thru the trees.

What the Left continues to do to the African-American community is a tragedy.

When you get that figured out, the light might even dawn upon you.


(BTW I don't understand how someone who wants much better outcomes for African-Americans could be a bigot, but in your hallucinogenic ways I'm sure you'll have an explanation.)

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three  

Racism, racism, racism . . .

That's what your corrupt leaders keep telling you.

Tragic IMO

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

I don't want to talk about history.  I want to talk about now. 

And the GOP doesn't have much to do with it at all.

Once again I think what the Left continues to do to the African-American community is a tragedy.

Some day maybe you'll wake up and decide that you want that community represented differently (no, not by Republicans).

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure  

And to make this a bit quicker - I don't give an eff who you claim to be.  

I DO know that these idiots are the ones you listen to about the black community.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Well, I think I get your nutty drift now. 

It goes like this -

Republicans authored the racist Southern Strategy against African-Americans.

All Republicans are racists and they are the ones holding African-Americans back.

The Republican Party will cease to exist after Obamacare goes into effect circa 12/1, and Republican racism will no longer interfere with the progress of African-Americans

I'll resist the temptation to pick apart this wacky thinking and just remind you that Republicans really have little to do with the African-American community these days and that

What the Left continues to do to the African-American community is a national tragedy.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91 

And, the total irony of it is that he listens to white talking head GOP operatives like Rush and Hannity et al expound and push those racist theories.

He never once asked himself "do those people really know anything about the black community?"

And the common sense answer would have been "hell no!".

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91  

Of course not! He sees paid black Americans who are paid thousands to millions by FOX and GOP operatives to spout racist bs so that ignorant people like him can feel less guilty about the fundamentally racist theories they use to explain the 93/7 split amongst black American voters!

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I was more into Zappa than Reed. I like a lot of different music though. A big influence on Zappa was Edgar Varese and his experimentations with atonal music. That was some strange (but interesting) stuff.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

Lou Reed must be one of your favorite rock artists.  

Zappa was one of mine.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I think Rock 'n' Roll Animal album is the greatest live album ever recorded. It is the sound of an unleashed animal.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three  

I'll be turning in soon.

You can tell us all more about victimology tomorrow, 53.

sacredh
sacredh

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure  

You're an ignorant idiot.

Like I said, stop the race baiting.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Handy told me you were really stupid.

You prove him right here day after day with these incorrect wild-ass guesses.

You don't have to be a genius to observe the murder rate in Chicago, the depressing test scores of African-American children, the exorbitant rate of out-of-wedlock African-American births, the unemployment rate of African-Americans, the racial make-up in our prisons . . .

I understand a lot of these undesirable results would go away if most African-American families were intact.

Once again I think what the Left continues to do to the African-American community is a tragedy.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three  

I watch Hannity, but I pay attention to what his guests say, not to what he says.  I have never cared much for him and I know what comes out of his mouth is slanted.

I have no access to Republican shill Limbaugh, nor do I desire it.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I'll see if I can't grab some of them.  OT, but my wife wound up with fluid on both her lungs and her left lung had collapsed.  She's having a procedure done right now to remove the fluid and reinflate the lung.  

It's a crucial one and I don't know why they didn't do it earlier, but at least they're wasting no time getting it done now.  She's been in a precarious position since yesterday, but this is good.

sacredh
sacredh

fitty, I'd recommend Rock 'n' Roll Animal, Transformer and Berlin. Berlin is not an easy listen at all. It's kind of shattering.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I didn't particularly like Lou Reed's music, but that was a while ago.  I think it's worth maybe finding some of his music and giving it another listen.  Sometimes the passage of time can make a difference.

Frank Zappa I loved for his totally inane approach to erotic rock.  He was master(bate)ful in his sheer zaniness.  Who can forget "Baby Snakes"?

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, honestly, he wouldn't make my top 10 favorite artists. I thought he was brilliant though. He was a true pioneer. Some of his lyrics are pure poetry. I had the pleasure of seeing both Lou Reed and Frank Zappa during their heydays. Both were great concerts.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Oh, I have.

Decades of failure.

But you can keep running the same plays and hope for a different result.

collioure
collioure

@sacredh  

Cute.  

But I don't think 53 realizes that his 30-60 year period has already passed.  Surely there are successes and many African-Americans have moved into the middle class and beyond, but there remains this tragic underclass with no solution in sight.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

I have some history too.  I remember when about 12 years ago I read that the Congressional Black Caucus opposed national testing of grade school students in reading and math.  That was because they didn't want their constituents to know how bad were their kids' schools.

Did you know that, 53?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure  

40 years of experience plus history (remember that, effer?) trumps your bigotry.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

I have no idea where you got that, but then again I have no idea where you get most of your stupid wild-ass guesses.

I'm interested in issues and results, and no American can be satisfied with the progress of the African-American community these days.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

So effing what.  This is another case of "convergent evolution".

Look it up, Brainiac....

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure  

No, you're about stupid.  You don't know anything about the black community.  Nothing. You're effing ignorant.