Evangelicals Battle Over ‘Biblical’ Immigration

Though many evangelical leaders have come out in support of immigration reform, not all are on the same page about what that reform looks like

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A group of people from Arizona with undocumented parents gather peacefully to pray outside the office of House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Tuesday, Oct. 22, 2013, in the Longworth House Office Building on Capitol Hill.

One branch of the evangelical Christian community knows what it wants up next on America’s political agenda: comprehensive immigration reform. Another would prefer what it calls “Biblical immigration.” As Congress turns back to the business of governing ahead of the holidays, the two sides are ramping up their rhetoric–and their lobbying–with dueling interpretations of the gospels’ guidance.

For months, some Christian groups have prayed for immigration reform. For eight days in October, over 100,000 Christian backers of the Evangelical Immigration Table have asked God for guidance on the issue through “Pray4Reform” events. Next week, they plan to visit Washington and press Congressional leaders directly about the issue.

The millions of undocumented people that live in the U.S., the Evangelical Immigration Table says, should be treated with charity as the book of Matthew says Jesus was. Leaders cite the gospel passage that quotes Christ saying, “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in.”

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“Evangelicals finally realize that how we treat the stranger, these 11 million undocumented people, is how we treat Christ himself,” said Jim Wallis, the president and founder of Sojourners, a Christian social justice organization.

According to Wallis, and the leadership of the Evangelical Immigration Table, which includes the National Association of Evangelicals, and the Ethics and Religious Liberty Convention of the Southern Baptist Convention, the evangelical community has “never been more united on an issue.”

Yet, not everyone in the evangelical community agrees with Wallis. Others on the Christian right dissent, including one group of Christians who call themselves the Evangelicals for Biblical Immigration.

Evangelicals for Biblical Immigration argue that taking care of home should trump what they consider blind acceptance of foreigners. They have been openly critical of the Senate immigration bill that passed the upper chamber in late June. Kelly Kullberg, the leader of what she says is an “ad hoc movement of citizens” behind Evangelicals for Biblical Immigration, says the Senate bill would grant blanket amnesty.

In June, referencing the Book of Timothy’s guidance on how to treat widows, Kullberg wrote in a letter to Congress that similar guidance should be adhered to when it comes to immigrants.

“While the Bible teaches us to be kind to the sojourner or ‘resident alien,’ it also teaches that kindness to the sojourner ought not to be injustice to local citizens and their unique culture,” Kullberg wrote. Over a thousand evangelical Christians signed the letter.

The Bible, the group says, gives more instructions when it comes to the acceptance of immigrants than just “be kind to strangers.”

“Like Ruth and Rahab, many are to be embraced,” Kullberg wrote. “We also find in the books of Nehemiah and Ezra, men who were called to build walls in order to protect, to cultivate the good and to grow a healthy culture.”

In September, Kullberg, on behalf of the Evangelicals for Biblical Immigration, sent another letter to members of the House of Representatives, calling for “biblical balance” when lawmakers consider immigration reform.

A biblical approach to reform, Kullberg says, would mean considering Americans first; securing the borders to keep out criminals, making sure unemployed Americans have access to job opportunities by mandating use of E-verify.

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“There is no set view,” says Mark Tooley, the president of the Institute of Religion and Democracy and a signatory of the biblical reform letter. “There are tens of millions of evangelicals and Protestants. There is no consensus on this issue.”

Polling data is mixed on that score. On one hand, data from the right leaning “immigration reduction” organization, Numbers USA, suggests that 46% of Republican evangelicals say they would deport most undocumented immigrants. Another 32% say they would deport some, but “ensure no jobs or assistance for the rest.”

A Pew Research survey from March 2013 shows, on the other hand, that 62% of white evangelical Protestants say undocumented immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. legally. Forty percent believe they should be able to apply for a path to citizenship, and 35% of those surveyed said those in the U.S. illegally should not be allowed to stay.

“There are people on both sides, Tooley said. “But the people who are speaking up are on the pro-side and those that are skeptical are not represented much at all.”

The skeptics, Galen Carey, the vice president of government relations at the National Association of Evangelicals says, don’t represent as many people within the evangelical community as more conservative groups are suggesting.

“We have a large number of people enrolled in the ‘Pray for Reform’ effort and it keeps growing,” Carey said.

Wallis says one reason for that is the church’s relationship with immigrants, many of whom are evangelicals themselves. “This is a personal issue,” Wallis said. “The undocumented are our brothers and sisters within the church.”

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38 comments
DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

As I mentioned in my previous commentaries those who can, should sacrifice an hour of their time to crowd any town hall meeting and speak up about the illegal alien invasion. Voice your opinion and release some of your bitterness and frustration at your municipal, state or federal politician. Don’t matter if you voted originally for President Obama or any of his Democratic friends, or a GOP beltway career Republican or listening to the fresh speech of a new rising Tea Party candidate. Everybody has financial involvement as a beaten down taxpayer, an anti-illegal alien advocate, a pro-sovereignty patriot or against the Obama administrations pressure to take away our unalienable freedoms degreed to the American people in the US constitution.

 This president has done more to sweep America into the toilet, even more so than former President Carter. Not only is these town hall meeting about Illegal aliens are depressing wages and worsening working conditions for legal immigrants and citizens in low-skilled and low-paying jobs, as the General Accounting Office says, Furthermore, if wages were not depressed by illegal workers, even greater numbers of native and legal workers would be in that labor market.

REMEMBER PRO-OPEN BORDER ZEALOTS WILL BE OUT IN FORCE.

 The National TEA PARTY is all about reducing government, introducing a simple consumer tax; that means doing away with the IRS, which has become an enemy of every taxpayer, lowering 17 Trillion plus US deficit and rebuilding our military.

With primetime for political activism is here: the August Recess. NumbersUSA is ready to provide you the most up-to-date information on town hall meetings with your members of Congress. All concerned Americans are encouraged to use our new August Recess Town Hall Map to find local events at which to hold elected officials accountable. https://www.numbersusa.com/

rogerordonez
rogerordonez

At the end, it doesn't matter if you are an american citizen, or an mexican citizen, japanese, or who ever you are: What really matters is that you are a citizen of heaven:

" For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ"  Philippians 3:2

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

Are you ready to be counted in our fight to Restore America from Tyranny?

86 million people are invisible unemployed, according to the Labor Department.

Tell Congress NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens! NO CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS. We need to mobilize folks to take action right away... We as Americans must find honest politicians as Sen. Jeff Session, Sen. Ted Cruz and others who are willing to stand for protection and rights of the people. 30 million low skilled foreigners are expected under policies enacted by the Senate or GOP and not the millions and counting of TEA PARTY voters. Contact your lawmakers and tell them we cannot stop illegal immigration at the borders or plan in-flights with conventional methods. We need for—ALL THE PEOPLE—a biometric Social Security ID card, that will cut the illegal foreign workers arriving here to a trickle, stop voting fraud by non-citizens and halt criminal stealing credit, welfare and other citizen benefits. These demented fools of both parties are willing to keep spending trillions of dollars, but shy away from this federal issued ID card for a measly $2 Billion that they say would cover every citizen.



DavidLM
DavidLM

I am a Christian. Christ did not say, “For I was hungry and took me something to eat, I was thirsty and took me something to drink, I was a stranger and, so I broke in and demanded to stay."

Christ never said, "Break the law, for you must be forgiven, though you never repent but demand rights instead." Christ called sinners to repentance. If these lawbreakers were truely repentant, they'd go home and try coming here the right way; with a visa and/or work permit. These leftist, so-called "Evangelicals" don't know God's Word or don't care what it says, having a different agenda in mind; (like allowing gay marriage in a church even!  How VERY UN-Christ like.)

DavidLM
DavidLM

I find it deplorable that the media twists polling questions arround so that it is impossible to answer their questions without seeming to love amnesty or be racist.

WHY IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA SO IN FAVOR OF GRANTING AMNESTY THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNWILLING TO PRODUCE AN HONEST OPINION POLL?

Reality, for me is: Most Americans do not want lawbreakers (Illegal border crossers) to be rewarded for breaking our laws (and breaking into the country is most likely just one among many that are broken by such people.) However, being fed the "only option" line, that "we must let them stay in order to secure our borders," Most of us would say, Okay, if that is the only way we can get a secure border that will absolutely STOP more illegals from comming here to produce anchor babies that enable them to mooch off of public assistance programs they wouldn't pay one "under the table" made dollar to provide like service for an American worker down on their luck, then yes, I guess they could stay. Reality though, I think most of us resent having to compromise on this wage depressing and unemployment elevating "requirement" our elected officials insist on as being THE ONLY WAY they they'd be willing to do their job of securing the border.

Texsheva
Texsheva

Evangelicals are concerned with others and their souls, but part of helping others and being Christ-like is teaching them to help themselves and HOW to get along in a society and follow the laws of the land.  It's better to teach a man HOW to fish, than to GIVE him a fish.  That way, he can be self sufficient.  When the laws of the land are circumvented and people are REWARDED for not following them, how can you expect them to follow ANY of the laws???  We need to go back to the limited immigration status we had previously so as not to overload the system the way it is today! We have people here we need to reach out to who are jobless & hurting. 

mountainlogic
mountainlogic

As a law abiding citizen who has worked hard all my life, I have no respect for a media that distorts the truth about how I and most Americans feel about illegals.  We have the same right as other countries to enforce our immigration laws and borders, and those who have knowingly violated either are not entitled to ANY of the rights bestowed upon legal citizens.  They should not be allowed to vote, even though Democrats would like nothing better than to import millions for election day to vote for them, thus allowing the illegals to keep socialist Dems in power, and allow anyone with breath to demand part of what WE THE PEOPLE have worked for. There should be no budget breaking welfare or educational benefits for any of these illegals.   Immigration is a vote grab for Democratic politicians and nothing more!

PulSamsaraXi
PulSamsaraXi

These evangelicals should take themselves, as missionaries, to the countries where these invaders stem from.   Do your good deeds there.  Better the people there - unless you can't be bothered. 

DaveLM
DaveLM

Property owners can't evict? Where are these community organizer "Evangelicals" when their neihbor down the street is being thrown out for not paying the rent? Come on, pony up hypocrites! if you want to be a bleeding heart, you are welcome to open your own purse or walet and provide lodging for them in their native country - the one they still hold their loyalty for and, where they send much of the money they earn back to.

Jesus said we, individually, should be willing to give to those in need. No where in scripture does he say to take it from others by force to give it. Yet, that is exactly what these socialist (AKA: community organizers), and wanabe Christians are insisting be done. God hates theives.

DaveLM
DaveLM

“Evangelicals finally realize that how we treat the stranger, these 11 million undocumented people, is how we treat Christ himself.”

If that means with respect and fairness to the law, this Evangelical would agree. Jesus never "voided" the law, or broke it himself. God gave His people a law to follow. God does not play games but is holy, rightous and just.

As Samuel, a Prophet of God said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams. (NASB 1 Sam. 15:22)

Those who misuse God's word for their political or social advantage will indeed answer to Him.

DaveLM
DaveLM

Jesus didn't say, “For I was hungry and took me something to eat, I was thirsty and took me something to drink, I was a stranger and, so I broke in and demanded to stay.”

SicknTired2
SicknTired2

People misinterpret the Bible to make it support their cause!  No where in the bible does it address anything that would support illegal immigration - in fact, just the opposite - we are to obey they laws!!  We have laws (that are obviously not being followed) against illegal immigration and these illegals are creating extreme hardships amongst the people they are trespassing against.  Can we forgive them?  Sure, after they go home and take away the stress and hardships they've created!  No where in the Bible does it say to just give handouts to those that are taking advantage of you - but only after the person/people that caused a problem have come forward, corrected their behavior, and apologized!!   The Bible also tells us to give to Cesar that which is Cesar's and these illegals are NOT paying their fair share but are doing the opposite and taking from the fair share that others are paying.  WE ARE BROKE and allowing amnesty is not going to solve that problem but will worsen it.  I can not accept amnesty when the people who are advancing it only support it for political gain - they do not support it because they have "compassion"!  As for the "innocent" children that were brought here by their illegal parents - I'm sorry but that is too bad!  Their parents KNEW what they were doing and it is their fault, not ours!  As for the children that were born on US soil by illegals - that does NOT make them citizens and the same rules that are supposed to be applied to their parents need to be applied to them as well.  SEND THEM ALL to their country of origin!

RobinHvidston
RobinHvidston

When you read article in favor of amnesty they are glowing - THEN when you read the comments the TRUTH of what the reality of America is stated - rather than the propaganda. Evangelical churches should focus on SUFFERING AMERICANS 23 million looking for a job and trying to put food on the table for their children.  Homelessness is burgeoning in the USA with no  end in sight. Our veterans living in poverty. AMERICANS should be the focus of the church NOT those in the USA illegally.  If they want to help they should encourage lawfulness THEN help in the HOME COUNTRIES!!!!

generalrelee
generalrelee

THE BIBLE DOES NOT teach us to give our children's food to the neighbors kids... this is Unscriptural!!  The neighbors are responsible to give to their own!!  Charity begins at HOME!!  Don[t know what version (perversion) of the Bible these folks are reading, but this is not what my KJV Bible says... God is able ... Don't mess with His word!!

FrankFletcher
FrankFletcher

Even Jesus understood laws of the land and obeyed them.  He told people to obey the law.  Illegals willingly break the law.  

HaroldWayneSutherland
HaroldWayneSutherland

We are in trouble with our own country and our progressive leaders. No AMNESTY, no benefits as Illinois is now reaping the horrors of offering benefits to illegals to the tune of over$5,000,000,000.00 per year and we are in terrible financial shape with our unfunded pensions, school aid and paying our vendors. NUMBERS USA is not a right leaning organization as they only want responcible immigration and they have many DEMOCRATS as members. I have attended metings with them and experienced a large percentage of DEMOCRATS there who want the same thing. Our leaders do not need comprehensive immigration reform, they only need to enforce the laws that are on the books which they promised to do in 1986.

KennethGlennKoons
KennethGlennKoons

Sorry but Wallis has been a liberal political flack for decades. He speaks for the liberal so called Christians not most Christians on any subject. The Dems have played this issue with ,,,,,compassion, open borders, oh the children but in reality, they want and need a new Hispanic voting Base. Period. That is the reason not some Biblical injunction. Scriptures on aliens, being nice to visitors has nothing to do with breaking the law, cartels, drugs, murders, and invasion of another nation's borders.Nothing at all. Dems for decades have tried to either coopt Christians from the Right and GOP or hate them all Grayson in Fla. with his KKK TEAParty Cross burning. Shameful and shameless. Few Dem leaders come out for ..either Christ or Christianity but rather make fun of ...so called religious people , having gun racks and bitter clingers..as friend Obama said. Sorry, but Dems have no Scriptural or spiritual unction here to change any law for their own benefit.

AWKingsley
AWKingsley

It is not Biblical to make tax payers pay for something they do not want. We are also importing a Socialist culture, more crime, and a group that does not assimilate well. (Christianity and Socialism do not mix.) Let me ask readers this: If Mexicans are so great then why is Mexico is such trouble? Why can't Mexicans turn Mexico around? Why are Mexicans immigrating illegally to the U.S. instead of solving the problems in their own nation, creating a prosperous and crime free Mexican nation? The point is that prosperity is based primarily on the ethics of the population. Ethics and traditions of honorable behavior are why with no natural energy resources whatsoever and the need to desalinate water, Japan has an average per capita income on par with Great Britain.

We keep importing people into the U.S. from failing cultures, which is one of the major reasons our own is failing. We keep importing people from other nations where the strife of Civil War exists, and our nation is teetering toward more and more division.

Jesus Christ was the product of an Essene culture where the law was strictly obeyed and spare time in the evening and early morning was spent in prayer. Why are we inundating America with immigrants from failed Developing Nations whose citizens do not follow Biblical Law? Why are we diluting our culture with people who were not the best citizens in their own nations?  Why is it that we focus on bringing in more and more Illegal Immigration instead of solving the problems in our own nation?

KansasCitizen
KansasCitizen

I don't believe we should give amnesty to those who willingly and knowingly came to our country by illegal means.  This is a slap in the face to the MILLION'S of LEGAL immigrants who have come before them and came WITH them to obtain their legal citizenship.  If we are going to grant amnesty to those who break our laws why even have immigration rules?  Immigration rules were, in part, set in place to help stabilize our job market, our economy.  With the state of our current economy, we have literally MILLIONS of unemployed CITIZENS.  MILLON'S who are jobless. We need to take care of our own citizens and legal immigrants.  Keep the gates open, in a controlled and civilized manner.  But don't slap our current legal immigrants in the face and send them to the back of the line because someone else did not want to wait their turn.  We will bankrupt our country by offering citizenship, healthcare and welfare benefits to those who knowingly and willingly were breaking our laws the minute they crossed the border.  We can not sustain it and it will drive our country into further ruin.  If a kid comes into the grocery store and steals a candybar, do we reward him by giving him the whole box of candy bars?  Think of the precedence that would be set.  Kid steals, give him more, welcome him back.  Let him have the whole store.....and no one has anything.

cent-fan
cent-fan

The immigrant community or those tied to the immigrant community will be the only thing holding these churches together in a relatively short while.  If they lock the doors to them they might as well start selling the candlesticks.

allthingsinaname
allthingsinaname

Until they understand that God is not political there is no hope for those evangelicals.

BabuG.Ranganathan
BabuG.Ranganathan

THE UNITED STATES OWES MEXICO

Babu G. Ranganathan

I am an evangelical Christian and a United States citizen of Asian Indian origin. Having said that, let me say that we are committing a great injustice in how we are dealing with Mexican immigration and the status of illegal Mexican workers in the United States. Congress ought to support President Bush's idea of a guest-worker program for illegal Mexican workers in the United States. We do owe something to Mexico and its people.

In the 19th century the United States, which was experiencing great industrial, technological and economic growth, sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean. But, there was one big problem. Mexico was in the way. Western land belonged to Mexico. So, the United States invented a doctrine called Manifest Destiny that said the nation that could better use the land had the right to it. We forcibly took what are now California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas from Mexico. This was raw aggression and it was morally wrong. When we seized these lands from Mexico they became first U.S. territories ruled directly from Washington D.C. Afterwards, when enough Americans from other parts of the country settled into these territories, the federal government in Washington allowed the people in the territories to vote on statehood and to have their own individual state governments.

The historical evidence shows that America provoked war with Mexico. Why should this be hard to believe? After all, the U.S. didn't invent the doctrine of Manifest Destiny for nothing.  History shows that American military forces invented reasons and excuses to go to war with Mexico. There's no reason to believe Mexico would start a war with militarily superior U.S.  Certainly, Mexico didn't have any doctrine of manifest destiny to justify conquering U.S. territory.

The U.S. has done much that is good in the world, but it also has done much wrong. The idea that the United States cannot do wrong is blasphemy! Only God cannot do wrong..

The U.S. can partly correct the great injustice and wrong committed against Mexico by giving legal status to Mexican workers in the U.S. who are doing jobs that most Americans refuse to do. No one is being hurt and everyone wins. But, isn't this giving amnesty to illegal immigrants? Not completely because Americans do owe Mexico at least this much for taking hundreds of thousands of square miles of territory from them. Also, in life there is a time for mercy as well as a time for justice. In this case it is even practical on the part of America to give mercy. There is no conceivable way that the U.S. can deport the millions of Mexicans already here, and the employment vacuum this will cause will be felt in everyone's pocket book. Americans are taking a lot of the work they do for granted. Americans would definitely feel the pain if all the illegal Mexicans were to leave.

The overwhelming majority of Mexican workers are law-abiding and work very hard for low wages but that money means a lot for them and their families back home. They do pay billions in payroll taxes. Yes, they may have gotten their social security and I.D. numbers on the black market, but the tax money that's withdrawn weekly from their paychecks is very real. If they were given legal status they would be paying even more in taxes. With all the baby boomers retiring soon we'll need all the hard earned tax money from Mexican workers. We've aborted or killed nearly forty million unborn babies since Roe vs. Wade, so we don't have enough people in the workforce to support social security once all the baby boomers retire.

These immigrant workers are not the "barbarians at the gates of Rome" as Pat Buchanan dramatizes them to be. They probably have far superior moral and family values than that of your average American. They're even the same religion as Pat Buchanan: Roman Catholic. Within a couple of generations, if not sooner, these Mexicans will have become Americanized and be speaking and writing fluent English. Other immigrants, the Irish, Italians, etc. have done so within a couple of generations. No, Pat, America is not going down!

I am not excusing their illegal entry into the United States. But, as a nation we can forgive and provide amnesty. Why did so many illegally immigrate anyway? That they may feed their starving families and offer a better life for their families. They didn't come here to plunder, rape, and kill. Yes, some may commit crimes but not the vast majority. The vast majority came for a better life and they are contributing. They are not taking someone else's identity and then stealing from their bank accounts and stock portfolio. Their identities are made up, for the most part, de novo which is illegal but it is not the taking of someone else's identity, and, again, it is not so that they can steal, rape, and plunder someone else's money and property, but so that they may work to feed their families back in Mexico, many who are suffering because of Mexico's economic policies.

Let's do what's right, just, merciful, and compassionate and give amnesty to our hard working fellow human laborers from south of the border.

The author, Babu G. Ranganathan, has his bachelor's degree with concentrations in theology and biology and has been recognized for his writings on religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis "Who's Who In The East." 

roknsteve
roknsteve

"Biblical" immigration just means they slap you with the bible like they always do.

sacredh
sacredh

" For eight days in October, over 100,000 Christian backers of the Evangelical Immigration Table have asked God for guidance on the issue through “Pray4Reform” events."

Oh, to be a ventriloquist.

Cactus44
Cactus44

" they would deport some, but “ensure no jobs or assistance for the rest.” "


Before you comment on what I have to say, do this -  read the Sermon on the Mount.  Don't just kind of "review it" in your head, or breifly flash your mind back to the gist of it.  Actually read it.  Then, after reading it, call to mind that these are not words written by somebody talking about Jesus, after his death, or laying out The Law and The Covenant before his birth.  These are the words of The Lord.


Now, with that firmly in mind, read that quote above, and try to explain to me how anybody who holds that view is a member of The Church that Jesus left under Peter's care.  

 You can't.

Stated more bluntly, if you believe that that's "Christian behavior", then you are NOT a Christian.  If you agree with that sentiment then you need to read the Sermon on the Mount everyday, at least once,  for a long, long time.  You'll know you can stop the daily reading when reviewing that quote makes you nauseous.  Or when you realize that you've made an awful mistake and that you need to ask for forgiveness for being so uncaring towards those made in his image.


This isn't just about immigrants either.  A person who can make another human into a sub-human object in his mind, the way that holding the beliefs manifested in that quote would require, and who could treat them accordingly, has absolutely no claim to Salvation.  None.  It's about all of Humanity, not just imigrants.  If you can do it to one group, you can do it to any group.  To any human.

jamesgordon
jamesgordon

The  Christian  community  voted  for a  cult  member  to be  President of the  United  States . They have NO credibility . They  sold God  out  for a political  party .

Poqui
Poqui

@AWKingsley Your ancestors who came here from Europe would fit perfectly into your description of Mexican immigrants.  What you said of Mexico could've been said of most European countries in the 18th and 19th century.  That is why the Statue of Liberty bears Emma Lazarus' famous words: 


"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Poqui
Poqui

@KansasCitizen Your European ancestors came here illegally.  The Native Americans did not give them permission.  

jmac
jmac

@BabuG.Ranganathan "I am not excusing their illegal entry into the United States."

It is not illegal when the Chamber of Commerce and business encourages them to come here to do grunt work.   Slaves were not illegal.  

24AheadDotCom
24AheadDotCom

@Cactus44 The only people making others into "subhuman" are those who *support* illegal immig. Those who oppose it want illegal aliens to go home and build up their own countries. Those who support it want a large number of lower-skilled people in the U.S. to serve as their crop pickers or nannies or to sit in their churches as Wallis and the rest do.


Ahu
Ahu

@Cactus44  

False. You think Jesus would intentionally break the law and immigrate into a foreign country. What's the phrase....oh right, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes. What do you think Jesus would say about that?

Cactus44
Cactus44

What would Jesus say?  He'd say don't lie.  And that immigrants, legal or otherwise, don't pay taxes, is a lie that's been discredited for many, many years now.  (Turn off Rush every now and then,. and pick up a real newspaper.  You'd be positively amazed at what's happened in the last 50 years.)  

Here's something that you'd find in the paper, just as an example:  - " Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office  indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes.[21] illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.[26] In addition, they spend millions of dollars per year, which supports the US economy and helps to create new jobs. The Texas State Comptroller reported in 2006 that the 1.4 million illegal immigrants in Texas alone added almost $18 billion to the state's budget, and paid $1.2 billion in state services they used.[27]

The Social Security and Medicare contributions of illegal immigrants directly support older Americans, as illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive these services.[28] The Internal Revenue Service  issues an  Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have Federal tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code. Federal tax law prohibits the IRS from sharing data with other government agencies including the INS. In 2006 1.4 million people used ITIN when filing taxes, of which more than half were illegal immigrants.[29]"

So please, now that you know that it's not true, don't keep repeating it.  When you say something, even though you know it's not true, you're lying.   And God doesn't like liars.