John Boehner’s Bad Night Clears a Path for a Deal

House GOP pulls vote on debt bill, leaving Senate to probe a path forward

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House Speaker John Boehner arrives for work at the Capitol on Oct. 7, 2013, in Washington

In another era, for a different leader, it would have been a stunning rebuke. For John Boehner, it was just another embarrassing stumble in a speakership studded with them.

House Republican leaders canceled a planned Tuesday-night vote on a Boehner-backed proposal to resolve the debt and budget crises hanging over the U.S., but the dramatic news was met with shrugs and snorts. Facing a critical test, having brought the nation to the brink of default, the nation’s top Republican failed to rustle up the votes once again — and the humiliation took nobody by surprise.

In fact there have been plenty of others, like the time the House Speaker couldn’t whip his caucus on the fiscal-cliff deal that fell apart last Christmas. Or the embarrassment of the scuttled Sandy-relief bill. Or the Violence Against Women Act vote. Or the farm bill. Time and again, Boehner has been stymied by his fractious backbenchers.

And yet, in the perverse ways of modern Washington, the Tuesday-night defeat may soon be marked in the history books as a step forward.

It was the latest expression of the Boehner doctrine, a playbook for governing the ungovernable. Stripped of earmarking grease, reluctant to rule by fiat, and with a conference that fears only its right flank, Boehner has long since realized he must be bloodied first before he can steer the country to safety. The process, ugly and messy and infuriating, ultimately works. The strategy of accommodation has repeatedly brought Congress to the brink of a dangerous deadline, but never truly over the cliff.

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Only once Boehner has placated his base can he step aside and allow Senate leaders to take over the work of governing. Within an hour of the news, Senate majority leader Harry Reid and his Republican counterpart, Mitch McConnell, resumed negotiations that had been held up for the House vote. Spokespeople for both men told reporters that the two leaders were optimistic that an agreement could be reached before the Oct. 17 debt-limit deadline.

This was the outcome President Barack Obama, who has sat across the table from Boehner, has come to expect. “There have been repeated situations where we have agreements, then he goes back, and it turns out that he can’t control his caucus,” Obama said Tuesday in an interview with ABC News. “So, the challenge here is, ‘Can you deliver on agreements that are made? Are you able to come up with sensible bipartisan compromises and deliver on them?'”

The harbingers of Tuesday’s rebuke were there from the start. In the morning, House Republican backbenchers trickled out of a closed-door conference meeting in the bowels of the Capitol with tepid reviews of the Boehner proposal. Almost as soon as the details had emerged, they were changing. When the markets closed, a ratings agency warned the brinkmanship put the nation’s credit rating at risk.

Late in the afternoon came the last nail in the coffin: Heritage Action for America, an archconservative group that holds outsize impact with the House Tea Party faction, issued a statement warning that it would “score” the vote, and urged members to oppose it. “The proposed deal will do nothing to stop Obamacare’s massive new entitlements from taking root,” the organization wrote. The subtext was a thinly veiled threat: a vote for the bill now would invite a primary next November.

By then, however, the bill was already “cooked,” said a House GOP leadership aide. “They tried all day to change to appease folks, but it never worked,” another told TIME.

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These sorts of failures have become so common that Washington leaders have baked time to accommodate them into the legislative calendar. With just three days left until Congress breached the Oct. 17 deadline, party leaders shrugged and squandered a crucial day so that Boehner could take one last shot at appeasing the House hard-line faction. “I think he had to give his folks one last chance to resist. That’s unfortunate because the time is ticking,” House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi said. “Once they’ve had that opportunity, then sanity will prevail.”

The markets, which twitched in doubt at every sign of a stalemate in 2011, haven’t batted an eye this time. The path forward, which looked murky for a moment on Tuesday afternoon, now looks clear: the Senate will cut a bipartisan deal, and Boehner will be forced to pass it with Democratic votes. He has said repeatedly that the U.S. will not and cannot default.

Painful as it is, the Boehner doctrine may be preferable to any alternative. For all its frustration, a White House that takes frequent potshots at Republicans has been relatively restrained in its criticism of his leadership. That’s because it knows the alternative would be worse.

Despite the aborted coup that momentarily threatened Boehner’s re-election as Speaker in January, House hard-liners have described the past few months as Boehner’s finest. And why not? He gives them every opportunity to take the stands they need to secure re-election, while ultimately cushioning them from the consequences of economic catastrophe. Moreover, there are few credible candidates waiting in the wings — the threat posed by the ambitious majority leader Eric Cantor, which hung over the 2011 debt-ceiling negotiations, has receded — and even fewer who would actually want the job.

Now the focus shifts back to the Senate, where Reid and McConnell are expected to work swiftly to hammer out a deal that the House will need to swallow. Not that they are happy about it. Surveying the wreckage, a top House GOP aide took stock of the defeat Tuesday night and declared, “This is a clusterf—.” But in some weird way, it might just work.

— With reporting by Alex Rogers

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212 comments
LydiaCarpenterAnnis
LydiaCarpenterAnnis

I have Lost Respect For the Speaker of the HOUSE,  a Coward and Trader to the PEOPLE...Kick the can down the road so we can DO it ALL OVER AGAIN in January...

SamOsborne
SamOsborne

And now Boehner can cry as he sings:

Don’t cry for me, I played gottcha

It won't be easy
You'll think it strange
When I try to explain how I feel
That I still need your love
After all that I've done
You won't believe me
All you will see
Is a speaker you never knew
Although I gave in to big dimes
Sixes of billions of times.

I had to let it happen
I had to change
Couldn't stay all my life as a heel
Looking out the bar window
Staying out for the sum
So I chose to play dumb

Running around trying everything new
But nothing impressed all of you
I never expected it too

Don't cry for, I played gottcha
The truth is I did it to you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I presented no promise
Don't keep your distance

PaulaNYC
PaulaNYC

According to a report this morning, a hot mic picked up Obama and Biden making fun of the new health care law. Looks like the president just gave the republicans an early Christmas present. http://goo.gl/Dqnhbx

Lar5
Lar5

Sure. When the Washington Times runs this it's over for the GOP/TEA


I was amazed this AM reading this from TheGOP's favorite newspaper.


The Washington Times | NEWSLETTER 


Wednesday, October 16, 2013 


TOP STORY | Politics 


House conservatives sabotage Boehner plan to end shutdown .


Don't these guys get it? These guys are aboard the Titanic.

SandiBurkhartMutchler
SandiBurkhartMutchler

Is there a political process designed to be able to completely impeach all House of Representative members at once?  If not, there needs to be one.  These horse patoots need to pack their bags and go home since they have not been able to pass a full budget in 4 1/2 years.  I am sick of our government not representing the people they are supposed to represent.  They all all too worried about what their fat cat puppet masters want them to do, instead of focusing on what this country and it's people need them to do.

notLostInSpace
notLostInSpace

If a Speaker cannot get his own party to craft a plan that is somehow passable, shouldn't he relinquish the job to someone who can?  How have we gotten to a point where one man who cannot deliver his party is somehow in a position of influence?   In other countries when they have this sort of problem they have to resign and form new leadership.  Boehner can keep his stupid job in Ohio if they are stupid enough to keep electing him, but he is not a Leader of anything as far as I can determine.

tommyudo
tommyudo

After the first go around of this Kabuki Theater is completed by the end of today, the GOP  needs to toss Boehner away to one of the back benches of the House to do what he does best - namely , hand out lobbyist checks on the House floor. This abject coward doesn't belong third in line to the Presidency.

tommyudo
tommyudo

@SamOsborne 


A perfect song to go with Johnny B would be Smokey Robinson's "The Tears Of A Clown."

grape_crush
grape_crush

@PaulaNYC 

Enough with the linkbait intended to drive traffic to your crappy Onion-wannabe website.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@mantisdragon91 Interestingly, they followed him off the cliff, while simultaneously telling us they don't like the guy.

bobcn
bobcn

@SandiBurkhartMutchler

"Is there a political process designed to be able to completely impeach all House of Representative members at once?"

This fiasco was planned and executed by the gop -- not ALL house members.  Punish the gopers who created this mess -- not the representatives who didn't.

grape_crush
grape_crush

@notLostInSpace How have we gotten to a point where one man who cannot deliver his party is somehow in a position of influence?

The Speaker's job is not to deliver his party, it's to lead the legislative functions of the House and promote his own party's political and party interests.The problem I have isn't as much the agenda he's representing...that's not unusual for any Speaker, even if I think the fringe conservative policy his party is pushing is disastrous. It's that, at the end of the day, that's all that matters to Boehner, and to hell with any other considerations, such as a throwing the world economy into a recession and weakening America.

Tip O'Neill vehemently disagreed with Reagan's agenda. He and the rest of the Dem majority never did anything like this.

conmaggot
conmaggot

@notLostInSpace  

I want Speaker Pelosi back. She knew how to keep the crazies from running around loose.

sacredh
sacredh

@notLostInSpace, as much as I dislike Boehner (and I live in Ohio), the TP will fight hard for a TPer as speaker. We may go from bad to worse.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@barneydidit @mantisdragon91 Interesting too is that they will opt for default while saying they don't want to default.

Working for the greater good isn't part of their paradigm.  Doing national harm is justified by their ideology.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@conmaggot @notLostInSpace Not Me.  Pelosi wasn't an effective leader in my humble opinion.  For what it's worth Boehner is much better.  But his hands are tied as his own party is being high-jacked by a fringe minority that has the solid backing of their constituency.  Should the government default these same constituents will declare victory.  

They will revel in their hollow victory until the consequences of default begin to hurt them as it soon would hurt all of us.  Then they will say it was Obama's fault and  cry "Impeach Obama!" 

That's how crazy they are. 

tommyudo
tommyudo

@sacredh 


Bad to worse sounds good to me. It will make it that much easier for the House to spin back to the Dems in Nov 2014. I haven't seen Johnny B  publicly blubber for a couple of years. Smokey Robinson is warming up his pipes now getting ready to sing " The Tears of a Clown."

notLostInSpace
notLostInSpace

It would be nice to see the Democrats arm all their political weapons and go after these guys (Cruz, Ryan, Boehner) like the Reagan bunch did in 1980 when they targeted and beat a bunch of actually very fine men (McGovern, Bayh, Church, etc.).  The best defense is a good offense.  Wouldn't it be sweet if Hillary got a landslide and had both houses solidly behind her.  My early prediction is ACA becomes single payer and then us "communist socialist pinky lefty muslim kenyan" folks get what we needed in the first place!  Who would actually miss Boehner if he lost?  You think he would have anything more than a footnote in history when he moves along?  Has he been involved in anything other than being a damn road block?

Openminded1
Openminded1

@SukeMadiq @Openminded1 @SamOsborne No one calls you except skin heads, and that is usually from jail . I am sure with your time that you spent in prison you got the real thing and did not need a dildo.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@bobcn @AlphaJuliette @barneydidit @mantisdragon91 

Interesting that after so many weeks of shut down nothing is gained other then burning the tp brand into the ground and establishment GOP with them we are now back to scratch 1 contemplating a clean CR with a few more months of life. Maybe a repeat early Jan will work better for them.

bobcn
bobcn

@AlphaJuliette @barneydidit @mantisdragon91

"Interesting too is that they will opt for default while saying they don't want to default."

Interesting that they say they're against government spending and debt but don't mind wasting $160 million a day (at least 2.5 billion so far, not counting the cost to the private sector)

bobcn
bobcn

@SandiBurkhartMutchler @bobcn

"I could go for that, but I was trying to not blame it all on the GOP or Tea Party"

Maybe you should stop trying not to blame the gop and recognize that this was entirely the fault of the gop.  They deserve 100% of the blame. They did this intentionally.

http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/10/06/government-shutdown-was-planned-for-months-by-ed-meese-koch-bros/

When you avoid placing blame where the blame properly belongs you are merely enabling the crackpots who got us into this mess, and you encourage them to do it again.

tommyudo
tommyudo

@SandiBurkhartMutchler

". . . but I was trying to not blame it all on the GOP or Tea Party..."


Huh!!!!!  And why not? That kind of forebearance and mercy is only for a Pope.



tom.litton
tom.litton

@AlphaJuliette @grape_crush @conmaggot @notLostInSpace I seem to remember democrats trying desperately to get at least one republican vote.

Imagine how much more palatable the law would have been if just a few republicans took them up on the offer in exchange for some of their own ideas?  

But no.  Their goal was to make Obama a "one term president", not help the American people, or to make laws as good as possible.

grape_crush
grape_crush

@AlphaJuliette@grape_crush@conmaggot@notLostInSpace > Pelosi didn't have the Tea Party to contend with.

Yeah, actually, she did. They were just as much of a concern to the Congressional Blue Dog Dems then as they are to the GOPers currently in office now.

There's a fair bit of legislation and an economic recovery that would have gone differently and probably more favorably if that were not the case.

> Not one GOP'er voted for it. 

So? Does that make the law any less valid? It's not as if the Republicans had no input into what is essentially a Republican plan.

> Such an imbalanced result has garnered the consequences that are holding us hostage to the fringe right today.

Bullsht. When the GOPers pulled this same stunt back in 2011, it had little to do with the PPACA. Stop trying to make fault where none exists.

> IF she had been able to put together bi-partisan support...

It's Pelosi's fault that the Republicans were too terrified of the Teabaggers and their backers to support a bill that was dreamed up by conservatives in the first place?

That's some hellaciously-bad blame-shifting you're trying to do there, Juliette.

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

@AlphaJuliette"Pelosi wasn't an effective leader in my humble opinion.  For what it's worth Boehner is much better."

Nancy Pelosi's House passed over 420 bills that were blocked by historic numbers of Republican filibusters in the Senate. Boehner's House stands on the verge of setting the record for the least productive on record.


"As far as Pelosi goes consider the passage of the ACA, aka Obamacare.  She got that vote through on a purely partisan vote.  Not one GOP'er voted for it."

That's because Republicans decided on the day of President Obama's inauguration, that they would deny him any legislative accomplishments. Only the Democratic super-majority in the Senate for his first two years allowed him to pass the ACA, and the stimulus that brought the economy back from recession.

You should try learning a few facts before you go spouting your opinion in public.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@grape_crush @conmaggot @notLostInSpace 

As far as Pelosi goes consider the passage of the ACA, aka Obamacare.  She got that vote through on a purely partisan vote.  Not one GOP'er voted for it.  Such an imbalanced result has garnered the consequences that are holding us hostage to the fringe right today. 

IF she had been able to put together bi-partisan support I doubt very much the Tea Party would hold so much power.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@grape_crush @AlphaJuliette @conmaggot @notLostInSpace He does IF the other moderate GOP'ers would go along with him.  At one point in this (manufactured) crisis he did but missed his chance when he didn't put the CR on the floor for a vote.  Now, those cowards have backed away and the Tea Party has the ball.

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@grape_crush @AlphaJuliette @conmaggot @notLostInSpace Pelosi didn't have the Tea Party to contend with.  Boehner does.

I'm not defending him and I agree with much of what you said.  But, it's clear that the far right in his caucus are calling the shots despite his standing.  How could a $4 Trillion agreement with President Obama (2011? I forget) go sour in favor of one that resulted in less spending cuts if it weren't for the Tea Party element? 

bobcn
bobcn

@anon76 @bobcn

"The infuriating thing is that it's not even clear the Hastert Rule would have been violated."

Just a reminder:  The "Hastert Rule" isn't a law, or even a rule of the House.  It's a political tactic used by the gop to insure that only gop favored legislation gets passed.  It's intended to freeze out the Dems.

Also, Boehner isn't bound by it.  He's abandoned it in the past, at other times when the gopers have painted themselves into a corner.  

Boehner isn't some kind of innocent bystander being battered by the misbehavior of his caucus.  He's the Speaker of the House, with the power to stop this madness.  This wasteful and damaging fiasco is largely his fault.

anon76
anon76

@bobcn

The infuriating thing is that it's not even clear the Hastert Rule would have been violated.  There are approximately 40-ish TPers in the GOP caucus, and approximately that number of GOPers so scared of a primary that they vote like TPers.  That's 80 out of the 237 member caucus, also known as a "minority".  If Boehner had anything resembling Pelosi's abilities, he would have gotten a plan the other 167 Republicans and which would have passed with the backing from some  Dems, but instead he has decided to cave to the crazies in his own party.

grape_crush
grape_crush

@AlphaJuliette @conmaggot @notLostInSpace> Pelosi wasn't an effective leader in my humble opinion. For what it's worth Boehner is much better.

Oh, that's funny.

Boehner has had the power to negate any of the multiple fiscal crises the GOP Teabagger wing has inflicted on the American public. He has chosen not to. Instead, he has actively worked to make sure these crises happen in order to use those situations to press for politically- and ideologically-driven changes to law that he cannot get enacted through normal legislative means.

Disagree with the results of Pelosi's work as Speaker as you will, but she got sht done.

bobcn
bobcn

@AlphaJuliette @conmaggot @notLostInSpace

"But his hands are tied as his own party"

No they're not.  

Boehner chose to block a house vote (for a clean CR and raising of the debt ceiling) that would have prevented this fiasco. He chose to enforce the 'Hastert Rule' and he chooses to pander to the extremists.  He (and Cantor) chose to engineer a House rule change that insured that there would be a shutdown. 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-house-gop-s-little-rule-change-that-guaranteed-a-shutdown

Boehner deserves no sympathy.  He's one of the primary reasons this fiasco happened and he deserves a lion's share of the blame.