The Shutdown and John Boehner’s Moment in History

The government shutdown is a tipping point for John Boehner's career.

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While the government shutdown is a headache for the American public, it can make or break political careers. For Speaker of the House John Boehner, the stalemate in Washington will define and shape his career going forward.

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JVM2222
JVM2222

As a Registered Republican Who realizes Independent is the only way to go, I tried to rationalize with Irrational thinking people, Emailing every Republican Congressman, Speaker in the Tea Party None would listen. You cannot be 13% of the voter block and hold hostage 300,000,000 million people. When I saw Speaker Boehener on This Week, it was a memory from the past in a military canteen talking politics to a drunkard, what is the point ?, it is attempt at futile reasoning. So after over a 60 email, faxes, phone calls, tweets nothing would work I realized I had to do something. About two weeks ago I started actually the old fashion way putting in hand writing, my objections to the Tea Parties Anarchy to the polling institutes using the US mail, the old fashion way documenting an opinion the old fashion way. To those Republicans who call me a trader, screw you, My military credentials and honor speak for themselves, blow out your backward redneck butts, sorry for the strong prose everyone. 

To be conservative does not to be arrogant and difficult, take Stem Cell Research, you know the biggest obstacle to prosthetic legs and arms in nerve conduction, For right or wrong you wage a war against a Mid East Country with made up intelligence, the result 10,000 vets with dismembered wounds, the biggest medical hurdle is nerve conduction to make these prosthetic legs, arms, work with the human brain and yet as as party you stand behind a republican president that holds research back a decade, and other side of the spectrum you try keep brain dead Terry Shiavo alive like a political football. Mission Accomplished, ugh!

You build Museum in Kentucky with horse saddles on the backs of Dinosaurs claiming cave man road them, the ignorance goes on and on well past common sense forgetting real conservative thinking like a balanced budget. Teddy Roosevelt for all purpose was meat eating, hunting bully but knew the value of True Scientific research and the pristine wildlife and beauty of this country. To think this was the party of Abraham Lincoln is so abstract it like a dream, we need to take back this party, demand that education isn't for liberals it is for EVERYONE, and it raises all of US up to a higher standard. WE need Statesman, not politicians. And above all we need respect and to be tolerant of others not nation of totalitarianism, you can agree to disagree with someone and still work together towards some common goal.

To all Americans of all parties, I have the guts to apologize for the behavior of this Tea party and its brinksmanship these past weeks I just hope we have Not damaged the economy beyond its recovery, how fragile its was progressively moving forward

A Statesman, An American retired SSgt JVM

cpl3
cpl3

The only hope for his career is to get himself into treatment for his alcohol dependence and sober up. Until then he will remain a drunken fool looking for affirmation from his fellow drunks in the houe.

sweetnonnie
sweetnonnie

Boehner may survive this week as speaker, or may not. I think he is toast either way.  He may have a difficult caucus to manage - a creature of their own making - but he is clearly not a strong leader,  Just think, he is third in line to be President.  Whereas Jerry Ford rose to the occasion, I don't see Boehner even in the same league.

sacredh
sacredh

I expect a "tipsy point" in the drunk's career.

maikelgili
maikelgili

The debt ceiling was a platform used by the Republican in the last Presidential election in 2012 and the voters rejected it by a majority.  This was also reflected in the Senate elections.  This shows that GOP does not have a mandate to proceed.

The root of the problem is the rescue of financial institutions during the last finance crisis - this again was opposed by GOP but the did not, but virtue of the Presidential and Senate elections, have the support of the American electorate.

Then there is the Affordable Health Care Act - again GOP opposed it and through proxies challenged it in the Supreme Court which upheld the constitutionality of the Act.

The House Speaker gave in one of his many speeches that the debt ceiling has to be limited because of the future of our children, etc. - this is in the future.  What is happening now is how can Americans think about the future of their children when GOP now cause the present prolonged shutdown and threatening the debt default therefore hurting US credibility, American job security and even welfare.  The present shutdown and debt default is like cutting the nose to spite the face - this is vicious and self-inflicted in the interim and not in the interest of even the present American generation specifically and the world.

GOP says one thing but does something else.  This is hypocritical to say the least but to injure and harm others in the process is murder.  GOP is not interested in the welfare of America and its people.

Americans should look ahead - after the US withdrawal in 2014, there would be big savings in terms of financial and human assets.  US should review at its military overseas commitments and there could be more savings here.  Look at the constructive approach;  not the spiteful cutting of the nose.  Sure is sad to see GOP leaders behaving in such an irresponsible and reckless manner.


Michael Lee

Malaysia


firefly212
firefly212

It's a pivotal moment in that it's when Eric Cantor pushed him over the edge... the Oct 1 law making it so that nobody but Boehner could introduce legislation in the house to get the government running was just the final nail... there's no way out now... either the TEA party gets him from the right, or the rest of the public gets him for not being able to get the government open, and not appointing budget negotiators for the last six months.

SteveBowlus
SteveBowlus

Boehner's "moment" is past.  It passed a couple days ago, when the momentum for working out a shutdown/default deal passed to the Senate.  Up until that time, win, lose or draw on his position as Speaker, he could have cemented a view of himself as a leader by simply bringing the "clean CR" to a vote. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

I don't really look at it as a "tipping" point.

More of a swoon, followed by a muffled thump.

Remember: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.

Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

I believe the outcome might be different if Tammy Faye Boehner had sobered up for half an hour.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

He's already known as the Weakest Speaker in History, this week will show if he is the worst. 

DavidStrayer
DavidStrayer

John Boehner's moment?  

Shakespeare is relevant here: 

"There is a tide in the affairs of men/which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune./Omitted, all the voyage of their life/ is bound in shallows and miseries"

Boehner has had his moment.  He could have exercised a degree of leadership and spine.  Instead he chose craven capitulation to the most extreme, nihilistic wing of the Republican party.

It's not clear how he expected this to play out, but it's unlikely that he thought that the GOP would wind up with the staggering deficit in public opinion that the party now has.  It's also unlikely that he thought that the Democrats would stand firm.  Had he stood firm and acted like an adult to the tantrum-throwing members of his party, he would have been hailed as a leader, a man who had the courage to put the country above the inflamed and deluded rhetoric of the anarchists who seem to inhabit the Tea Party wing of the GOP.

Now, having failed the test of leadership, he appears more of an example of what happens to people who cannot act on principle, who merely roll over and play dead.

jmac
jmac

Josh Barrow:   "If Republicans were once the daddy party, now they're the abusive ex-husband with a substance abuse problem party."

leonvang
leonvang

Between Bush, Romney, Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Cruz, Lee, Rinse a Prebus and Boehner  we have all the reasons we need to vote the GOP out of the House next year. Just find some sane people to run in the party darlings' primaries.

j45ashton
j45ashton

Time for the Republican National Committee to have a talk with John Boehner.  If they think he's hurting the brand, they should tell him to get off it or they won't support his bid for re-election.  Apparently the only way to get to Boehner is to threaten his job.


grape_crush
grape_crush

> The government shutdown is a tipping point for John Boehner's career.

Well, yeah...it's the point in Boehner's career that everyone else realizes he's not interested in the well-being of the majority of the public.

His primary concern being, apparently, the tipping point at which the scotch pours out of the bottle.

outsider
outsider

i'm going to go out on a limb. 

Remembered as the weakest speaker, ever.

grape_crush
grape_crush

 @maikelgili> The root of the problem is the rescue of financial institutions during the last finance crisis - this again was opposed by GOP

Um, no. The bipartisan bank bailout bill was signed into existence by Bush.

Other than that, not a bad comment.