White House: ‘Listening And Talking’ With Republicans, But Not Negotiating

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Susan Walsh / AP

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney

After two days of meetings with congressional Republicans, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that President Barack Obama is not negotiating with the GOP.

“We’re listening and we’re talking,” said Carney, who refused to elaborate on whether those talks involved an exchange of proposals. But the discussions were “constructive,” he added, saying “it at least looks like there’s a possibility of making some progress here.”

In a long-delayed press briefing after Obama spoke with Speaker of the House John Boehner on Friday afternoon, Carney said that Obama’s position against negotiating to raise the debt limit has not changed. “What I would say is that our position hasn’t changed, our position that there is no ransom that can be paid,” he said with respect to the borrowing cap.

But Carney indicated that Obama’s opposition to negotiating while the government is shut down may be softening. “He’s willing to look at any proposal,” Carney said, when asked whether Obama would consider repealing the medical device tax, a component of Obamacare opposed by Republicans and some Democrats.

18 comments
AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

I like the idea of freezing government spending at current levels right now and postponing putting a real budget together for about three months.  Pass the debt ceiling now and get it over with.

During the next three months seriously discuss the budget.  Use Bowles/Simpson as your guide and put everything on the table.  We need entitlement reform, we need a reformed tax code and we seriously need to revise Obamacare.  That three months will allow honest discussion to take place. 

WalterShann
WalterShann

Here's a novel thought let's spend what we have not what we can borrow.

NoneofyourBizniz
NoneofyourBizniz

Boehner and the Ted Cruz Taliban are going to have to cry uncle sooner or later.  I just hope Ohio and Texas has the good sense to dispose of these two losers.  They aren't politicians, and the damned sure don't have the American people's interest in mind.

WienersPeener
WienersPeener

Take the GOP straight to the mat. My sales are off 30%, but that's a small price to pay to completely discredit the Tea-Cozies once and for all. Let's see if we can get their approval rating down into the single digits. Amerca will win when these bums get thrown out with the riff-raff.

internetfavs
internetfavs

guys with ego's. So sad. stop fighting and start making decisions that are good for the US and not for your own good.


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BrooklynMan
BrooklynMan

According to a report this morning, a hot mic picked up Obama and Biden making fun of the new health care law. Why do I have the feeling Obama's determination to avoid negotiating with republicans just dissolved? http://goo.gl/Dqnhbx

confettifoot
confettifoot

This is the ONLY headline that correctly reports Carney's reiterated press conference message. It was fun and somewhat maddening to watch - reporters couldn't seem to wrap their minds around it and seemed desperate to spin it into something else even while asking questions. Good for you, Time.

You don't negotiate under threat. That's all that Obama has said, and whether you agree with him of not, he's been consistent and clear. First remove the threat, THEN we'll negotiate. Meanwhile, he's glad to listen. This has somehow confused people.

Can I burn down your house? No 

Just the 2nd floor? No 

Garage? No 

Let's talk about what I can burn down. No 

YOU AREN'T COMPROMISING!
    — Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 2, 2013

j45ashton
j45ashton

There's nothing to discuss.  The president won't move on Obamacare.  Not until he sees how it actually plays out.  And with respect to the debt, there's no significant wiggle room for social programs.  Right now, 80% of the nation owns just 7% of the wealth.  The top 20% own 93% of the wealth and the top 1% owns 37% of that.  With wealth in such terrible imbalance, it means that social programs are needed more now than ever before.  The only thing they can talk about will be time frames and amounts.  How long will a new CR be in effect and how much will the debt ceiling be lifted.


sacredh
sacredh

Why should Obama negotiate a settled law? This shutdown has seriously damaged the Tea Party and that's a good thing. The TP relies on extortion to get their way. Show them that extortion no longer works quite as well and that they'll pay a price for it.

billbear1961
billbear1961

Give them NOTHING, Mr. President!

What do THEY offer in return? They won't be gangsters and coup plotters--for a while? They'll do their JOBS--for a while??

Nothing for extortionists, who have threatened to DESTROY their own country's economy if you don't meet their demands!

No concessions!

Nothing for TERRORISTS!

CabJones
CabJones


Here is a Simple Talking Point, Mr. President
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The Speaker of the House is asking me to persuade the Senate and endorse legislation which the full Congress does not support–namely, repeal or delay of the Affordable Care Act.  Even if I had such power over the Senate, this would betray the trust which the American people have placed in me.  I cannot ethically attempt to persuade members of my party to pass an unwise law.
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MrObvious
MrObvious

@WalterShann 

How about GOP joins the dems negotiating over the budget, something they were invited too 18 times before they decided to plan (months ahead) to use extortion instead since they lack majority power to push or repeal bills.

Majority power that were given to the dems because people trust dem policies more.

Here's a much more novel idea. After budget negotiations try listening to people and adopt smart conservative ideas that moves us forward. If people like them they will give GOP the votes. Instead we see however the usual tax cuts, attack minorities and make it harder for people (especially people who traditionally vote dem) to vote.

That's a party that is trying to hold onto power without doing it through people, but despite them.

This country isn't only about the fake idea of 'real America' vs the rest. It's about all of us and while we liberals keep having to drag you guys around despite your best effort to blow up this country because you don't like what it has become, we will continue doing so hoping GOP comes to their senses.

And trust me - I'd love nothing more then balancing the budget, just as Clinton started to do. But it will require revenue increase and investment in our country and not just blowing our tax money on huge corporations that set up shop elsewhere and socialize all their cost on us.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@WalterShann We've managed to do that a grand total of 3 times since the turn of the 19th century Walter. We also would have lost both WWI and WWII if we had not borrowed money. It's not "spending more than we make" that's the problem, its what we're spending it on (hint: our defense budget is more than what the rest of the world put together spends), and what we're not spending it on (hint: our rail lines, roads, electric grid and internet infrastructure are the laughing stock of most of the parts of the world not located in North Korea). 

AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@NoneofyourBizniz You must understand that their Tea Party constituencies will vote them back in no matter what.  The only way to counter this increasingly extreme party is to vote in a Democrat SuperMajority in the next round and by pass them.

PaulDirks
PaulDirks

@BrooklynMan Because you're so full of hatred and gullibility that you can't even detect a satire piece  when you encounter it....

Thanks for playing.

oldchap
oldchap

@CabJones  mr CAb jones, where are you living? In mars? The affordable care act is already a law of the land and tested by the Supreme court for its constitutionality. The problem is that your party is going against what the constitution protects as the laws are passed from the president to the congress and then back to the president, who finally signed as a law. Mr cab jones, respect democracy.



AlphaJuliette
AlphaJuliette

@MrObvious No Fair!  You're using logic and reasoning instead of political slogans and partisan ideology here. 

Well said Mr. Obvious.  Well said.