NBC/WSJ Poll: Shutdown Doing Major Damage to GOP and Congress Popularity

Recent polls show Americans can find little to like in either political party

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JUSTIN FANTL FOR TIME

Sixty percent of Americans say that if given the chance, they would vote out every single member of Congress, including their own representative, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll.

The number of people willing to fire their elected representatives is the highest in the history of the survey, according to NBC News. Only 35% of those surveyed said they would keep their representative.

The NBC poll also shows how damaging the shutdown has become for the GOP – 55% of those surveyed blame Republicans for the shutdown, while 31% point the finger at President Obama. That 22-point margin is even wider than the one Republicans received in the 1995-96 shutdown. And in even worse news for the GOP, while Obamacare still isn’t popular, it’s becoming less unpopular over time. Last month, only 31% of the public thought the Affordable Care Act was a good idea; that number has now climbed to 38%.

The poll comes on the heels of an AP-GfK survey that showed Americans find little to like in either political party. In that poll, 4 of 5 people surveyed described Republicans as unlikeable and not inspiring or innovative, but President Obama didn’t fare much better. Together, the two recent surveys suggest that the 2014 midterm elections may be shaping up to resemble 2006 and 2010, when large numbers of incumbent lawmakers lost reelection bids.

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22 comments
RobertMull
RobertMull

It was special when harry ried told the mayor of Washington DC "we feel for you but DO NOT SCREW THIS UP FOR US" Typical progressive (before 1950 was a communist)  That was so special. This is all about the progressives in both parties and how the few TRUE CONSERVATIVES are holding to the Constitution for an out of control government..


We need to get the spending under control. There are plenty that the government does that it does not have the power to do and that should be left to the state.  They keep using the commerce clause and they have stretched that beyond believe. Republicans take a hit then that is the progressive republicans and they deserve to be thrown out and have a TRUE Conservative put in their place.

drudown
drudown

What a shock!

Another piece of Tea Party Propaganda that "there really isn't a difference between parties" as Morning Joe Media-types unapologetically ask in the abstract "what concessions should the [lawbreaking, Legislative Vetoing] Speaker" should seek or some other deliberate segue into "what certain polls say" as if, in the end, the Speaker can just turn our precedent and law of Administrative, Constitutional and Civil Procedure on its head and just...


"pretend"


That if the propaganda message never wavers on the 'Fairness Act-less' Media, there is no more Media at all.


It's truth seeking function falls woefully short without cross-examination on GOP policy cost/benefit considerations.

Why is there no such thing anymore? Just more Am Radio conditioning about (drudown, I can write this) "Marco Rubio was seen exiting a plane and, incredibly, acting as if he didn't want the 'shut down' when confronted by angry voters"...in the wake of such wide-scale, paid-for-news...forget the law and put on your partisan shoes...as they trample the State and want you to forget that if the State "is drowned in the bathtub" (per Grover Norquist's express request) the DOJ does not have a per se duty to investigate collusion with the Speaker on the Unconstitutional "shut down". It is an open conspiracy with prior statements and pre-meditated abatements of any desire but to INJURE the credit rating and Treasury holders of the United States.

This is a High Crime and not protected by any House privilege. We must enjoin unlawful conduct predicated on Unconstitutional 'Legislative Vetoes' because this is not Legal, nor does the Speaker's purported ideology render his Scienter to Injure the People of the United States undone. 

We are a Nation of laws, or we are not. 

The Executive branch must enforce them.

"Truth fears no trial." Thomas Fuller, MD

paulejb
paulejb

It would appear that Barack Obama still benefits from the soft bigotry of low expectations among the American public. Almost five years in and they still cut him slack.

sacredh
sacredh

55% blame republicans and 31% blame Obama. If only the baggers understood math.

MrObvious
MrObvious

The 'poll' in 2012 was the wake up call. 11 Months we're here today repolling that event. If voters didn't want tax increase and Obamacare they'd voted for Mitt and given the Senate to GOP.

They didn't.

And I blame Media for doing such an abysmal job in highlighting this, but instead they're busy building the both sides do it narrative.


outsider
outsider

Beautiful. 


Hear that? That's the sound of reality, slapping a lot of wingers. 


Pretty hard. 

drudown
drudown

@RobertMull

As a threshold matter, you deceitfully imply that this "shut down" wasn't a pre-meditated plan by the Speaker and GOP. Where is the evidentiary support for such an absurd claim that is directly contradicted by the prior statements? Your party is ruled by Foreign Money and- as such, they don't want us to thrive, be well, be strong or successful. You are shutting down the government, i.e., impugning the credit rating of the United States, the People and ALL Treasury holders. I can't wait until the class actions eat Grover alive. Their intentional interference with prospective economic advantage is going to bankrupt the GOP hell bent on bankrupting America. You are either brainwashed or a traitor to defend a "shut down". These GOP players are going to be prosecuted in civil court. I would imagine the DOJ is not far behind.

But keep singing your "it's about the principle, not the Foreign Money corruption" GOP party-line...traitors. 

MrObvious
MrObvious

@RobertMull 

You're right.

Nothing would please me more (as a liberal) then you guys insisting on a TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

Which means a more puritan partisan. Good luck with that. The polls reflect what people think about inflexible hostage taking.

You really think that a more pure hostage taker will be viewed any better?

But of course you do.

And btw - there's nothing in the constitution about holding the economy hostage. But there is stuff in there about paying the fudging bills so not to undermine the full faith in our ability to pay them.

#mindblown

jason024
jason024

@RobertMull So be it....but shutting down the government and not raising the debt ceiling is NOT the place to achieve those  goals.

manlyman
manlyman

Depends on the poll paul. The one that most intrigues me is the obamacare vs ACA poll...

MrObvious
MrObvious

@ViableOp 

Apparently you would be wrong.

The numbers indicate that the shut down is hurting one party in particular while it shakes the trust we have in our political system in abrogate. Meaning that people don't like the fact that it's taking so long. True, it's the nature of a crisis in a representative democracy and people just want it to end. But if the other side ended it by clearly overstepping constitutional boundaries people would react even louder to that.

In other words, the dip across party lines is perfectly natural in a political confidence crisis. But the numbers indicate clearly who is getting clobbered for starting and not ending it. And it's made worse of course by a Media enslaved by the false equivalence narrative in order to build suspense and conflict. 

jsfox
jsfox

@ViableOp Actually it is destroying the GOP while merely scratching the President.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@sacredh Math is a science, the Tea Party considers science heresy...phenomenon explained. 

MrObvious
MrObvious

@sacredh 

That's media talk for

Everyone dislike the shutdown equally.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@outsider 

I never knew a gold clap would come with such a resounding bruising.

barneydidit
barneydidit

@jason024 @RobertMull maybe if Conservatives gave us an actual cost cutting plan that included specific cuts and associated specific numbers so we can see what impact those cuts would have, rather than simply exclaim from first thing in the morning until last thing at night that "we have to slash spending!", they'd have better luck getting us to listen to them. Kind of like if they came up with a viable alternative to Obamacare that gets medical coverage to everyone (emergency rooms don't count BTW), we'd take them a bit more seriously when they complain about Obamacare's shortcomings. 

AlistairCookie
AlistairCookie

@barneydidit @jason024 @RobertMull   They don't want to give details.  

Because when you actually detail out spending to cut, people can see the ramifications of how it will hurt.  How it will hurt them, not some mythical "other".  So they just generically carp about spending cuts, and let everyone's minds fill in the blanks with whatever spending they personally don't like.  They are vague on purpose; it's not a bug, it's a feature.  Then they quietly cut food aid to children and don't mind if seniors cut pills in half or have to eat cat food.  Because FU,GM.

And any seemingly low hanging fruit that is the usual punching bag for The Right (PBS, NPR, National Endowment for the Arts, etc) are literally a couple hundredths of a percent of the budget.  

I have to cut my household spending!!!  I didn't leave a penny in the dish at the gas station, spending cut, all better.  Same thing.