GOP Senators Rail Against Obamacare Before Obama Meeting

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Jose Luis Magana / AP

Sen. Ted Cruz R-Texas pauses while speaking at the Values Voter Summit, held by the Family Research Council Action, Friday, Oct. 11, 2013, in Washington.

Opposition to Obamacare sparked the government shutdown now entering its 10th day. But it has taken a back seat in recent talks between Republican leaders and President Obama about how to end the effort. Just don’t expect the conservative rank and file to forget about it anytime soon.

At a Friday morning summit of religious conservatives in Washington, Republican senators, who were scheduled to meet with Obama later in the day, took turns throwing out red-meat lines about the horribleness of the law. Sen.Ted Cruz (R-Texas) called Obamacare a “disaster” and a “trainwreck” that violates the Constitution before commending the House of Representatives for “standing strong” amid the government shutdown. Sen.Tim Scott (R-S.C.) said President Obama “didn’t even like the Obamacare law, so he delayed portions of the law for a year.” He added, “We deserve better.”

“We must stop it. We must defund it. We cannot accept it,” said Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah). “We make no apologies. We stand with you.” Conservative radio talk show host Mark Levin called the law a “direct assault on religious liberties,” and the conference attendees were encouraged to flood Congressional phone lines with calls to stop Obamacare.

The event, the 8th annual Value Voters Summit held at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in northwest Washington, was disrupted repeatedly by liberal protesters, who were drowned out by boos and chants of “U.S.A., U.S.A” as they were lead from the room by security. “Is anybody left at the Organizing for America headquarters?” Cruz jokingly asked as a a group of hecklers spread throughout the room were escorted out.Throughout the week, civil rights and LGBT rights groups bashed the conference for being “anti-gay.” A coalition of groups sent letters to members of Congress , urging them not to attend the event due to the organizers previous statements denouncing gays, lesbians, and other minority groups.Not all senators who spoke at the gathering evoked Obamacare. Senators Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.), however, both of whom have shown interest in 2016 Presidential runs, chose instead to address the crowd from a faith perspective. “With all this fighting that’s going on, out biggest fear is that we’re losing focus on the biggest issues that face our nation,” Rubio said. “The fundamental truth is that you cannot have a strong economy if it’s not built on strong values.”

Paul addressed a worldwide “war on Christianity,” saying America needs to stop sending tax dollars to those around the world in countries where citizens have condemned Christians.

 

35 comments
relcontrario
relcontrario

Defunding "Obamacare" or any law in this illegal manner is outside the constitution.  Those who want to undo a law must do it by mustering the votes in both houses of congress and the signature of the president.

That is what the US Constitution requires.

Openminded1
Openminded1

Way to much religion on here, keep religion out of politics. There is already enough crap going on with the politics end of this story and all the moron players, we do not need to involve Jesus too.

LeahPetersen
LeahPetersen

Wow. These people...I'm almost embarrassed for them. They're too dense and clueless to realize how dense and clueless they are.

j45ashton
j45ashton

Headline from the NY Daily News: "Ted Cruz's dad manages to outshine his son, calling Obama a Muslim"

I take back everything I've said.  Ted does come from a well-balanced background.

pro-plan-now
pro-plan-now

According to Merriam-Webster, contraception is: “things that are done to prevent a woman from becoming pregnant.”

One of the primary issues at hand with the ACA is that the definition of contraception is being expanded to include also medications and procedures that terminate a pregnancy, not prevent it. This broadened application is completely antagonizing in the face of our already polarized society of pro-life and pro-right camps.

For pro-plan, it is self-defeating. The morning-after-pill and abortion are clearly NOT methods of contraception. If we want to make progress on the issue of unintended pregnancies, then let us please direct that subject individually and not blur it with pregnancy termination. Perhaps then we could agree upon a few things?

Perhaps pro-lifers will embrace the pragmatic use of real contraception?

Perhaps pro-choicers will at least admit the morning-after-pill and abortion are not contraception?

Perhaps we can start talking to each other like human beings again?

pro-plan-now.org promotes a dialogue to together pool resources to prevent unwanted pregnancies before they happen. Please join us!

j45ashton
j45ashton

 Nazis & Bolsheviks started as small, tightly-knit groups bound together by radical ideology.  The only thing that made them truly possible were widespread horrible economic conditions.  We had a horrible economic condition that has gotten much better.  That's not good for the Tea Party. They only become remotely viable if they can somehow destroy enough of America so it might appear that they are the solution.  And so what have they done?  Shut down the gov't and advocated not extending the debt ceiling.  Doing the worst possible damage they can to the country while presenting themselves as the solution.  Hitler was mental, Stalin was mental, and so is Ted Cruz and anyone deluded enough to follow this destructive megalomaniac. This man is worse than bad.  He's evil.


swagger
swagger

i know the nazi analogies are tired but weren't hitler's speeches and political rallies met with the same kind of zealous approval as cruz receives?  he complements a base that stews in its own grievances in a witch's kettle stirred by the right wing extremist media industry.  christian crusaders lash out in self righteous fury and proceed in a most unchristian manner.  in this bizarro world society as it is becomes the enemy that must be destroyed and resurrection in the image of their theocracy.

NoneofyourBizniz
NoneofyourBizniz

"Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility, two things that set us apart from much of the world."--Ronald Reagan  

Where are those Republicans? 

j45ashton
j45ashton

I saw this turkey giving his speech.  What in the living hell is this guy talking about?  In my close to 60 years I have seen changes in technology, changes in styles, movies, tv, news.  What I haven't seen is all the illusory nonsense that this man and others like him talk about.  I'm no more, no less free than I was 30 years ago.  No more, no less put upon by the gov't than in the past.  Basic conditions did not change for me during Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton & Obama.  If anything, things have gotten better under Obama.  The worse time I've lived through since the Vietnam era was what an all Republican presidency & Congress put us through with the Iraq war and the financial meltdown.  So what the hell is Ted Cruz talking about?  This man is the most divisive, McCarthyesque, hate-mongering politician I have ever seen.  He is Rush Limbaugh in Congress.  For the love of god, Texas please don't do this to us a second time.   

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Good for you fools. Remind the 7-10% of the population who yet don't know what fools and zealots you are.

barneydidit
barneydidit

Uhmm...so "religious conservatives" feel that a law which allows poor people (kinda like Jesus was?) to have at least a reasonable shot at receiving the kind of healthcare everyone else in the forward thinking world has access to...is the devil's plan? Yeah, sounds reasonable....Beelzebub would clearly LOVE something that treats those lazy, mooching poor people like human beings. If only those danged poor people would just take INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY and buy health insurance even if they're young and healthy....oh...wait. 

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

Note to GOP Senators who have aspirations of running for President:  When a majority of the American people think your party is full of backwards and obstructionist nut cases, it's not  a good time to be seen speaking at a conference full of backwards and obstructionist nut cases. 

barneydidit
barneydidit

So the GOP ran their candidate in 2012 primarily on the premise that he was going to "repeal Obamacare on day one"...and they lost. So then they decided to shut down the government unless Democrats repealed or at least delayed Obamacare...and lost. So now they're telling us they'll re-open the government if maybe Medicare spending is tweaked a bit...but apparently still hate Obamacare.  Perhaps they should just move on to being part of the solution to our country's problems. 

grape_crush
grape_crush

> At a Friday morning summit of religious conservatives in Washington...

No need to read past that point, is there? Guessing that the speakers things like, "Obamacare is the Devil's plan, not God's"* and "Christianity is under assault" while playing the victim the whole time.

(*on second thought, considering that the ideas behind Obamacare came out of a right wing think tank, they may unintentionally have a point)

jsfox
jsfox

@pro-plan-now ACA does not require insurerscover medications and procedures that terminate preganncy. Please stop spreading BS info.


"The Affordable Care Act says that health insurance is only required to cover birth control that is prescribed by your doctor. Emergency contraception brand Plan B One-Step is now available over the counter to people of all ages, so if you buy it without a prescription, you'll have to pay the full cost out of pocket.

However, if you get emergency contraception prescribed by a doctor your insurance will cover it without a co-pay. Most brands of emergency contraception are best when taken ASAP (except for ella), so the quicker access of getting it over-the-counter might outweigh the cost of getting it free."



j45ashton
j45ashton

@swagger Nazis & Bolsheviks started as small, tightly-knit groups bound together by radical ideology.  The only thing that made them truly possible were widespread horrible economic conditions.  We had a horrible economic condition that has gotten much better.  That's not good for the Tea Party. They only become remotely viable if they can somehow destroy enough of America so it might appear that they are the solution.  And so what have they done.  Shut down the gov't and advocated not extending the debt ceiling.  Doing the worst possible damage they can to the country while presenting themselves as the solution.  Hitler was mental, Stalin was mental, and so is Ted Cruz and anyone deluded enough to follow this destructive megalomaniac. This man is worse than bad.  He's evil.

mary.waterton
mary.waterton

@barneydidit 

Jesus never preached Socialism and He certainly never preached TRILLION dollar deficit spending to pay for it. Nor would Jesus endorse a health care plan that includes the murder babies as a form of birth control or sex-change operations for homosexuals ... both of which are covered by Obamacare.

But what really sickens me about your comment that is that you liberal atheists go on and on continuously about "keeping religion out of politics" and then try to goad Christians into supporting your Big Government Socialist agenda by means of ............... religion.

LeahPetersen
LeahPetersen

@tom.litton @pro-plan-now Exactly. The morning after pill, no matter what the hardcore conservatives think (based on not understanding it at all or even trying to), is not a abortificant. It prevents pregnancy.

jsfox
jsfox

@mary.waterton @barneydidit Nor is anybody else preaching socialism. Caring for our fellow citizens is not socialism. Insuring that folks can get the healthcare they need through the private market place is certainly not socialism. And sweetie Republicans should never ever lecture anyone about debt and deficit. You guys are the very worst when it comes to driving up both debt and deficits. Don't forget Republicans took us from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and blew threw a budget surplus on two unpaid for tax cuts and to unfunded wars, one based on a lie, and on the largets unfunded entitlement increase in our history.

Next Obamacare is not insurance so it covers nothing. Now if private insurers want to cover abortions they are free to do so, they are not required to do so.They are required to cover contraception.

tom.litton
tom.litton

@mary.waterton @barneydidit  

"I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."

"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,"

"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."

"You cannot serve both God and Money."

He may not have been a socialist, but he certainly isn't a republican either. 

jason024
jason024

@mary.waterton @barneydidit

"Big Government Socialist agenda by means of ............... religion."

----

Translation: "God fearing Christians are scared that our tax dollars are going to be used (in some obscure way, if at all,  that we are too stupid to understand) on sinners." 

Good thing Jesus also  taught to screw over our neighbors  b/c that is what we had without the ACA.


LeahPetersen
LeahPetersen

@mary.waterton @mantisdragon91 @barneydidit 

Sending people to hell is not an act of love and it certainly isn't "egalitarian".

And, of course, Republicans are the sole arbiter who goes to hell or not.

Doesn't remind me of anything I've read in the Bible at all.

tom.litton
tom.litton

@mary.waterton @mantisdragon91 @barneydidit printing money lowers interest rates, and nothing else.

It could cause inflation, in the future when the economy recovers.  But it won't, because the fed will start destroying money to stop that.  

It's what they have been told to do by congress (ie duel mandate), and they do it fairly well.

mary.waterton
mary.waterton

@mantisdragon91 @mary.waterton @barneydidit

Printing money robs from the poor and gives to the rich. Address you complaints on that issue to Obama and Bernanke. And as your second question:

"The Son of Man (Jesus) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do INIQUITY; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:41-42)

Sending people to hell is not an act of love and it certainly isn't "egalitarian".