After Meeting, Obama and Republicans to Continue Talks

No deal, but both sides characterize pivotal summit as progress

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U.S. House Speaker John Boehner addresses reporters in Washington on Oct. 10, 2013

President Barack Obama and a delegation of House Republicans concluded a lengthy meeting at the White House on Thursday afternoon without an agreement on how to raise the debt limit or reopen the government, but both sides described the summit as a positive step toward resolving a crisis that has bedeviled negotiators.

Obama and top White House officials met with 20 House Republicans, led by Speaker of the House John Boehner, for some 90 minutes in the Roosevelt Room in an attempt to plot a solution to the twin fiscal crises. According to the White House, Obama “listened to the Republicans present their proposal. After a discussion about potential paths forward, no specific determination was made.”

House Republican aides described the meeting as a useful conversation, and noted that Obama neither rejected the emerging House Republican proposal to extend the U.S. borrowing authority for roughly six weeks, nor did he accept it.

“This evening in the Roosevelt Room, the leaders laid out the House proposal to temporarily extend the debt limit, formally appoint budget negotiators, and begin immediate discussions over how to reopen the government,” House Republicans said in a statement. “No final decisions were made; however, it was a useful and productive conversation. The President and leaders agreed that communication should continue throughout the night. House Republicans remain committed to good-faith negotiations with the President, and we are pleased there was an opportunity to sit down and begin a constructive dialogue tonight.”

“It’s a good sign we’ve finally got Obama talking,” said another House Republican aide.

Both sides are expected to continue working Thursday night toward a strategy to lift the debt ceiling by the Oct. 17 deadline set forth by the Treasury Department.

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58 comments
BrooklynSarah
BrooklynSarah

According to a report this morning, a hot mic picked up Obama and Biden making fun of the new health care law. Looks like the president just gave the Tea Party an early Christmas present. http://goo.gl/Dqnhbx

j45ashton
j45ashton

I've seen it reported that the movers & shakers of the tea party are mostly millionaire (not billionaire) small business men & professionals from the South who are less involved with the debt ceiling but more focused on Obamacare because it bridges old cultural & power-related divides in their own backyards, divides they want to see maintained.  But what about the 'regular' people who are a part of the tea party movement?  Who are they?  When I see them interviewed at their conferences, they seem perfectly nice.  Off-camera I have only known one very well.  Get into a conversation with him about politics, and this old friend would transform into someone filled with frustration and anger if not hatred.  I know that his frustration came from money, from constantly living so close to the edge (so close to having to change his life style) that income & payroll taxes seemed to threaten him every day.  Granted many others in the same position don't react the same way, but income vs taxation is a big component of tea party.  Leaders of the tea party have their own agenda.  Like Fox News they tap into this  grassroots frustration and channel it to their own advantage.  Sooner or later the tea party followers need to see that their leaders don't really give a damn about them and that to Fox News they only represent the ability to get advertising dollars.

fitty_three
fitty_three

1000 Words:

[Boehner]

"pfffff...ffffttffff.f.ff.ffffffffeeettffff"

[Lady at left]

"Oh. My. God."

[Boehner, with silly experession]

"Wasn' me."

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

It is amazing to me how lazy the journalists in this country are!  For months and months, the House has refused to negotiate with the Senate and were waiting for the current crisis in order to wring concessions out the Senate and the President.  It is clear the Republicans don't know how to govern.  They are intent on creating manufactured crisis after crisis.  That is not surprising when you consider a sizeable portion of their party wants to dismantle the federal government.  If your goal is to get elected to the federal government in order to destroy it, the Tea Party faction of the Republican party is doing a great job.  Either we get want we want or we take the country down.  Who cares if the economy tanks because Obama will take the blame.  Would you make Karl Marx a CEO of a corporation?  Why oh why would you elect a Tea Party person to the federal government?

chacalcdn
chacalcdn

The GOP's final goal I believe is to change the Constitution from WE THE PEOPLE 

to

WE THE LOBBIES...with a cup of tea please.

notsacredh
notsacredh

The best part of this whole shutdown? We get to watch the GOP dig their own graves and make their own coffins. I thank them for that.

gardenrock7
gardenrock7

Obama/stalin care has to be stopped at all cost!....they exempt themselves, fine us, and will take your home if you don't pay!............. corporate communism design, ......

racerkoi
racerkoi

"It’s a good sign we’ve finally got Obama talking,” said another House Republican aide.

Classic projection.


bobcn
bobcn

"After Meeting, Obama and Republicans to Continue Talks"

I guess Boehner got the negotiation he's been demanding after all.  He makes a demand and Obama responds by saying no.  That's negotiation.  Negotiating doesn't mean you get what you want.

Can we stop damaging the country with this idiotic and expensive shutdown now?

AlbertRodriguez
AlbertRodriguez

Boehner is done , if he makes a deal with Obama the tea-party will put him on there hit list ...

ChristopherKanas
ChristopherKanas

If not now, at what point does one say a final NO to increased debt ceilings? We've been "lucky" so far more damage hasn't been done with the debt that is quickly escalating out of control. The Millennials are waking up, they know their generation is gonna see the worst of whatever the austerity coming is going to bring.

AmusedByItAll
AmusedByItAll

Short-term increases of the looming debt limit are the political equivalent of “death by a thousand cuts”, not quick but very effective.

Each time the administration needs a CR or an increase in the debt limit Republicans will ask for a moderate concession. Each concession appears necessary to mollify the more radical Republicans and reasonable because the point of reference always is the state of affairs that resulted from the previous concession. After several CR and debt limit increases, they will have achieved their objectives which are something that Democrats would never have ceded. For example, the President and Democrats have already acquiesced to sequester level of spending for a clean CR, a concession that is possibly the first step in such a three year extended scenario.

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

Slightly OT, but Boehner looks like he's peeing in that picture. 

pbgd
pbgd

Government by extortion is no way to run a country.

drudown
drudown

So, let me just clarify this for any undecided voters or self-described independents. 

The GOP (via the Speaker of the House) has (1) willfully disregarded Congress' lawful duty to Faithfully Execute its prescribed Tax and Spend function per Article I, Section 8 by "allowing" the government to "shut down" (read: willful, deliberate and pre-meditated omission to perform agreed-upon job responsibilities of the House) and now, incredibly, (2) is asking to the Executive branch to further WEAKEN the United States' ability to meet its obligations by coercing a "change" in Tax Code that (what else) would make the United States more dependent on Foreign Lenders funding Grover "Benedict Arnold" Norquist's regime? 

I have a better question. 

Why does EVERY concession the "modern" GOP ask for make the United States less competitive, less Diplomatic, less educated, less able to regulate major markets and less solvent?

Because Saudi Arabia is pouring money into Grover's pocket. This "shut down" is his idea and, by logical extension, the Foreign interests antithetical to the People's since (lo and behold) the Saudis are "funding" the "war on terror".

Gee, what a "surprise" that (lo and behold!) Benghazi is now some alleged "hotbed" for terrorist activity. I'm sure the Evil Kingdom was behind the shootings, planned on pinning it on Hillary just like they planned 9/11 and wanted to pin it on Iraq. '

Why is everyone afraid of investigating the party ruled by Foreign money? 

Is there not one honorable person in the GOP other than Alan Simpson?

"Truth fears no trial." - Thomas Fuller, MD

Openminded1
Openminded1

This is all about ego for both sides, there will be some give and take and the shut down game will be over by the 16th.

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

@BrooklynSarahThis "news" item is from The Daily Rash, a satirical site, similar to The Onion.  Here's what the owner of The Daily Rash has to say about his site:  

"The Daily Rash is satire! Merely a parody of the life that we watch around us daily.  We spoof the famous and not so famous people who fill our lives with beauty and who bring us so much joy.  Any similarities between our stories and real life are coincidental.  Nothing here is very true.

Mark Donahue is the guy in charge.  After years of laughing alone he decided to share what nobody else thinks is funny with the entire world.  And yes, he is still laughing alone. Probably in a damp room with little ventilation."

fitty_three
fitty_three

1000 Words:

[lady at left]

Be honest, John.  You took my drink, didn't you?

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

1000 Words:

John Boehner shows further contempt for the budget process by sighing away a hard day of drinking in the middle of a press conference.  

manlyman
manlyman

Madcat you've mistaken lazy for hypnotized. And your spelling could use some help, its Journo-list! And how can you tank something that's already tanked? Or as obama would say, "transformed"?

manlyman
manlyman

Stand back everyone. Sacreds tingling again.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@gardenrock7 If only Obama was Stalin. The American Taliban would be in jail and the country would be on its way to 5.5% unemployment.

jsfox
jsfox

@gardenrock7 Any one who has employer based insurance, as Obama and Congress do is exempted from having to buy insurance on the market place. Will take your home!? How do you folks come up with this nonsense. Good grief a first year tax bite of $95.00 is hardly taking your home unless your home is a cardboard box.


Get a grip on yourself or get meds.

racerkoi
racerkoi

@AlbertRodriguez  

and if he doesn't, the Republican Party approval rating plummets even more.

Rock, meet hard place.

manlyman
manlyman

Are you kidding, the debt has been cut in half! Just ask any liberal!

jsfox
jsfox

@ChristopherKanas The debt is not out of control. And if you are really worried about then you need to increase revenue. Which means taxes must go up. You cannot cut your way to a lower debt picture.

bobcn
bobcn

@ChristopherKanas

"If not now, at what point does one say a final NO to increased debt ceilings?"

The answer to your question is NEVER.  You need to educate yourself about the meaning of the debt ceiling.  It does not mean increasing the authorization for future debt.  It means paying for things that have already been bought.

It's clear that this ignorance of the actual meaning of the debt ceiling law (and the demagogic lies about it made by people who know better) is a primary cause for the danger it poses to the economy.  I hope that the dangerous threats the extremist right wingers are currently making to the economic health of the US (and the world) will be enough to motivate pols of good will to finally eliminate this anachronistic and dangerous World War One era law.

j45ashton
j45ashton

@ChristopherKanas I continue to say...the big items are Medicaid & Medicare.  You should go to a Medicaid facility & see how those people are living.  You wouldn't want to live that way for 5 minutes.  There's little to cut.  Medicare payments to hospitals & doctors have already been cut.  What's left?  Cut benefits?  Most people won't stand for it.  No point in having the program w/o basic benefits.  So where are the big cuts going to come from?  Ryan's plan is ridiculous.  His voucher won't cover the full costs of insurance and the burden will fall on the elderly to make up the difference instead of spreading the costs across everyone.  Many people will just bank the voucher.  What happens when they get seriously sick.  We all wind up paying higher hospital costs to cover the emergency room treatment & charity treatment for these people after they've run through all their money & then we wind up paying for them through Medicaid.  Discretionary spending is cut to the bone given the sequester.  Fraud & waste should be eliminated but it's already been said that this alone won't lower our debt.  Then not extending the debt ceiling drives interest rates up.  We we wind up paying even more to borrow not to mention the chaos and difficulty for every business owed money by the government.   There are no simple answers here.  Not raising the debt ceiling only makes our debt situation worse.

racerkoi
racerkoi

@Sparrow55  

Yes it does, and her caption is: "Stop it!  That's the American public down there"

American-in-Canada
American-in-Canada

@pbgd "A rose by any other name is still a rose".  Mr Boehner, last I looked, extortion was illegal.  BTW, asking Treasury to stop paying YOUR bills looks bad on YOU. 

Libtards-UNITE
Libtards-UNITE

@pbgd Agreed.  I wish the Dems would stop with that tactic.  BTW, where's the budget in the past ___ years.  Our president and our congress (both Reps and Dems) are absolute idiots and incapable.  They should all be tossed. 

manlyman
manlyman

Yes, cuz the repubs will cave like they always do. Or "compromise" as the libs like to say. If we compromise the libs will like us! Ummm, yeah...

jmac
jmac

@Openminded1 That's a lie.  This is about Republicans knowing they couldn't change our Republican health care plan , Boenher reneging on his budget agreement because he was forced "to take a stand" since he's controlled by extremist, and not caring what it cost our government for his  shutdown and his playing fire with the world markets and our credit rating.  

Democrats didn't do this when they were in power in the House.  Congressional Republicans can't control themselves when they get in power and they have proven it once again.  


notsacredh
notsacredh

@jsfox, they like to invent screnarios that justify unjustifiable outrage. It's like getting mad at your spouse because you dreamed they were cheating on you with a movie star.

tom.litton
tom.litton

@manlyman Not the debt, defict.  The deficit has been cut in half. (more so actually). 

Yes, i know, i know.  You can't believe reality.  It has a well known liberal bias.

manlyman
manlyman

More taxes or more taxpayers? Confusing...

ABulletForCinde
ABulletForCinde

@bobcn @ChristopherKanas Borrowing is one of the means governments rely on to raise money. The other is taxation, selling assets and printing money. Governments don't resort to this to burden the people with debt, but to run government. This is called public financing, and even prosperous countries like the US resort to it. It isn't a political issue but chiefly an economic one. Macroeconomics, in its plainest.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@jmac @Openminded1 Most of time you are way off with your liberal bs, this time you are not so far off, but the main thing that is important is the end this shutdown and get us back  on track , then talk the blame game.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@jmac @Openminded1 Well i would never had guessed you voting GOP. You must have switched sides after Bush Sr. The shut down is game between two political ego maniac's. 

jmac
jmac

@Openminded1 @jmac The shutdown never should have happened and it could be stopped immediately if Boehner would give us an up or down vote.

Remember that cry?  Giver us an up or down vote?  Remember?  

I voted for Nixon, Reagan and Bush senior.   Some liberal.