Morning Must Reads: October 7

In the News: Entering the second week of the shutdown, military raids in North Africa, Supreme Court Resumes and Justice Scalia talks to NY Mag, and why Obama must talk to the GOP

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The US Capitol in Washington is seen on September 30, 2013 , a day before the government shutdown began.

  • No-Negotiate Obama Enters Second Week of Shutdown Standoff: “For seven days the federal government has been closed, and for seven days Obama has refused to negotiate with House Republicans. He’s cloistered himself in the White House as the GOP takes a lashing in the press and across the country, emerging only to fan the flames.” [TIME]
  • Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spoke to New York Magazine about the Constitution, the media, homosexuality, the Catholic Church, and the Devil. [NY Mag]
  •  White House Pursues Online Privacy Bill Amid NSA Efforts: “The fact that the administration is trying to advance such a measure — amid reports that the government can access people’s online communications — speaks to growing tensions with Europe over privacy. Top European Union officials have called for tighter data rules for U.S. Internet companies, and a base-line privacy bill would strengthen the administration’s hand in negotiating with Europe.” [Politico]
  • Libya, Somalia Raids Show U.S. Counterterrorist Strength and Weakness:  “The U.S. raids against terrorist targets in Somalia and Libya on Saturday show how America is succeeding in one part of its counterterrorism strategy, but failing in another.” [TIME]
  • Redskins Rep Lanny Davis on the President’s comments on changing the Washington Redskins’ name: “President Obama has better things to worry about, but he should look at the Chicago Blackhawks who won the Stanley Cup and he’s never said a word about them,” Lanny Davis, an attorney for the Redskins, said on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends.” [Politico]
  • Rich People Just Care Less: “A growing body of recent research shows that people with the most social power pay scant attention to those with little such power.” [NYT]
  • Lew: Congress is Playing With Fire: “Treasury Secretary Jack Lew on Sunday ratcheted up the administration’s  efforts to convince congressional Republicans that they should step back from their push that the White House accept major changes to ObamaCare in exchange for raising the borrowing limit and reopening the federal government.” [The Hill]
  • Why Obama Must Talk to the GOP [National Journal]

 

 

788 comments
nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

The Blackhawks are actually named for a NA nation.

Teh Redskins are not.

retiredvet
retiredvet

Rachel Maddow played third grade teacher with addition class tonight. She counted the 217 votes in the House to pass the resolution. All of the Republicans by name.

retiredvet
retiredvet

Cruz seems to have accomplished the impossible. All Democrats are completely united.

retiredvet
retiredvet

Conservative media fooled by satire, Part XXVII

Of course, as Mike Burns added, "Fox has a history of passing off satirical stories as actual news."

Something to keep in mind that that all-caps email from your uncle arrives. Obama didn't destroy Reagan's childhood home; there's no such thing as "Friends of Hamas": ACORN no longer exists; "Skewed Polls" was dumb; Fast & Furious and Benghazi are not actual political scandals; the IRS didn't target conservatives; and Obama isn't paying to keep open a Muslim museum.

notsacredh
notsacredh

OT, but I just got off the phone with an estranged friend's son. He just got out of the Army a few months ago and is having trouble finding a decent job. He asked me if i would let him use my name for a reference because he wants to work for the same district that I do. I told him I didn't mind at all and that I'd help him with his resume if he waited until I finished up on Thursday morning. I told him to tell his dad I said "Hi" and he said he hadn't talked to him for three weeks because he was letting him cool down. Whyis his dad angry? His son voted for Obama. I asked him if he ever got around to telling his dad that he was an atheist too. Laughter and then "No".

MrObvious
MrObvious

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/07/cnn-shutdown-poll-plenty-of-blame-to-go-around/?hpt=hp_t1

Not surprisingly, huge majorities of Democrats are angry at the Republicans, and huge majorities of Republicans are angry at Obama and Democrats. Independents are equally angry at all sides, with 59% of Independents very or somewhat angry at the Democrats, six in 10 angry at the GOP, and 58% angry at Obama. 

Thanks CNN for making me think you're either math stupid or that you're building a narrative around different questions.

Look - when you have 100% of something it's a little bit hard to swallow that 60% (6 in 10) of ONE group blames 3 individual namesakes. Unless the question is something like 'I blame ALL involved'. Which of course doesn't answer why it's 59 here and 58 there. Unless again by the use of words like 'very or somewhat angry' means several different categories of questions.

CNN is the worst type of Media. Where there's even punditry in basic statistics. No wonder people are so completely confused about whats going on when they get their info from outlets like CNN.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Dear Diary

Today I have successfully defeated the hive again .I don't know what it is but the voices tells me it's bad and Obama's fault.

Sometimes the voices tell me 'Take your vitamins' and 'what are you doing down there in the basements' but for most parts they tell me to blame Obama.

I'm like a pastier Chuck Norris. Quicker then lighting, smarter the a box of rocks and cleverer then anyone who can complete factual sentences. And just as the voices prove it to me, I prove it by mangling the same points over and over. 

I'm winning. I have the bruises to prove it. Ted, Sarah and Michelle for life. #anncoulterishot

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@nflfoghorn 

Not to mention that nobody is offended by the term Blackhawks while Redskins was a derogatory term to begin with.

I'm against a forced name change for the Redskins - just because I believe in the identity of a sports team and I don't think the team's identity is inherently tied to the derogatory connotations their team's name started with - but good Lord this owner gives you every reason to switch your opinion.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@retiredvet 

And GOP is not.

Short of the Pope coming out as gay I think we have a perfect deck.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@retiredvet, next you're going to be telling us that having sex with Nancy Reagan isn't necrophilia.

retiredvet
retiredvet

@MementoMori With the level of GOP alternate reality in Washington lately, Bachmann looks almost sane by contrast.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@MementoMori 

Bachmann is a nutter. But not because I'm a liberal. She's just plainly nuts. And it says something when in the primary she was about the first to leave the island. She's even nuttier then the base can handle. Plus she's a woman. No, she is. Not in a vaguely Ann Coulterish way, but she is. Don't let the alien stare fool you.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@MementoMori, do you ever get the feeling that if they said those things while in an asylum that they'd never get out? 

MrObvious
MrObvious

@sacredh 

I have come to realize that you have a very subversive nature. That's why we need to run you for president in 2016.

I foresee great destruction for some and more power to the rest of us.

retiredvet
retiredvet

@MrObvious CNN is on my no-watch list along with FOX. Just hype and crazy is all they got.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@MrObvious

Poll was clearly structured to ask how angry you are at each group respectively.  What ticks me off is that it's not clear that they're actually comparing apples to apples.  60% are "angry" at the GOP, 58% are "angry" at Obama and 59% are "very or somewhat angry" at Democrats.  Further, if they're just short-handing it, when you're "somewhat angry" at something, do you actually feel "angry"?

The poll's valid, the analysis less so.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@MrObvious 

I've come to the realization that going to CNN for news is like going to one of Lindsay Lohans' rehab facilities.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Ivy_B

Scalia himself notes that something has changed about Washington: “When I was first in Washington, and even in my early years on this court, I used to go to a lot of dinnerparties at which there were people from both sides. Democrats, Republicans. Katharine Graham used to have dinner parties that really were quite representative of Washington. It doesn’t happen anymore.” When Senior asks him what was “the last party you went to that had a nice healthy dose of both liberals and conservatives?” Scalia replies, “Geez, I can’t even remember. It’s been a long time.” But then Scalia also seems oblivious to the ways in which he himself might be playing a role in the polarization and rancor that has literally brought the capital to a halt.

But that's so true about most 'wingers. They abhor the rancor but fuel it every day and then strikes out there arms and go 'What???'

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @retiredvet @collioure  

What I'll be paying attention to, 53, is whether there is plan to reduce the deficit below $300 billion, how we are going to pay the interest on the debt when interest rates return to normal levels (another $500-$700 billion), and whether Obamacare is ready to go.

retiredvet
retiredvet

@sacredh  I just hope you don't go out and prove it one way or the other! ;-)

notsacredh
notsacredh

@MrObvious, I'd like to take some credit for his son's choices, but I had nothing to do with it. I think it was 100% having to listen to his dad before he graduated high school and joined the army. His dad didn't approve of his son's choices in music, politics, girlfriends or anything else. i used to think that his son just automatically chose anything his dad was against.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@MrObvious 

The other thing is that the distinction of whether you're somewhat angry or very angry is huge.  I can be somewhat angry at Obama and the Democrats that they couldn't work something out or that it came to this or whatever while being REALLY POed at the Republicans for holding the government hostage.  I might feel that Obama and the Dems hold some spectre of blame while still believing the lions share is with the Republicans.  But we don't know what those numbers are because CNN grouped them together and went with the narrative that everyone is equal in this - which we know is total BS.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Ivy_B

 One sees a monster and the other sees a hero. It's extraordinary, actually. The O'Reilly constituents think he's speaking sense; the Jon Stewart vote thinks virtually everything the guy says is nuts.”

I just don't think so. The 'wingers expect us to be as intolerant and loathing as they are but I only feel pity for a person like Scalia (and I think O'Reilly is a pandering boob).

Nuts?

I'd say a person like Inhofe is nuts. It's because his ideas are bonkers. Scalia can be pitied, the only reason why he's on a different level from another pitied person like McCain is because he holds such a disproportional power as a SC justice. So he's not a monster, but his influence creates monsters that influence politics for decades.

I mean look at the disproportionate level of venom - where I think liberals can articulate what they find wrong with GOP and where something like 40 percent of GOP seriously think Obama is the devil reincarnate.


MrObvious
MrObvious

@paulejb @outsider @forgottenlord @MrObvious

They are suffering. Look at that chump in California who just had a $10,000 increase in his health care premiums.

We might all suffer from GOP ideas in the end but right now my suffering is making my stomach hurt from all the laughter.

Oh paulejb, can you please stay like this until 2014?

outsider
outsider

@paulejb @outsider @forgottenlord @MrObvious  

Read below - there is a pic, with a guy, holding up his card explaining his story. 

Or would you like a news story? I'll happily provide one if you like. 

Here you go

 http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2013/10/affordable-care-act-aka-obamacare-save-10k-year/

And of course there is this, for coprorations

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/25/1241324/-Obamacare-could-save-large-employers-billions-in-COBRA-nbsp-coverage#


You asked for 1. I gave you three. 


You're welcome.

 

 

outsider
outsider

@paulejb @outsider @forgottenlord @MrObvious  

No sparky. You wrote that anyone who voted for Obama should suffer. 

I might be paraphrasing - but no more than you do. 

It's called hyperbole. And since you do it so often, i thought you'd recognize it.