Morning Must Reads: October 2

In the news: government shutdown continues, Obama cancels Asia trip, and what about the debt ceiling?

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The US Capitol in Washington is seen on September 30, 2013 , a day before the government shutdown began.

  • “Politicians cheered party solidarity Tuesday, while acknowledging the damage they are causing by their inability to reach agreement. ”Democratic unity is as strong as ever,” boasted Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on the Senate floor Tuesday afternoon. “And that is a great thing, because it means that there’s hope. The bad news about today is, of course, that many innocent people were hurt.” [TIME]
  • “A harsh reality began setting into Capitol Hill on Tuesday: The U.S. government may not reopen until the two parties reach a deal to raise the national debt ceiling.” [Politico]
  •  President Obama’s upcoming trip to Malaysia and the Philippines has been postponed in the wake of the government shutdown. The White House says the President will still be traveling to the APEC conference in Indonesia. [NYT]
  • “On the day the Affordable Care Act takes effect, the U.S. government is shut down, and it may be permanently broken. You’ll read lots of explanations for the dysfunction, but the simple truth is this: It’s the culmination of 50 years of evolving yet consistent Republican strategy to depict government as the enemy, an oppressor that works primarily as the protector of and provider for African-Americans, to the detriment of everyone else. The fact that everything came apart under our first African-American president wasn’t an accident, it was probably inevitable.” [Salon]
  • Millions visited healthcare.gov on opening day of the Obamacare insurance exchanges, causing many sites to crash. It is unclear, however, how many people actually purchased insurance on Tuesday. [TIME]
  • As the Obama Administration courts business leaders for support around his call for Congress to raise the debt-ceiling without attaching other policy changes to it, business leaders and lobbyists are skeptical. [The Hill]
  • Boehner: “The president isn’t telling the whole story when it comes to the government shutdown. The fact is that Washington Democrats have slammed the door on reopening the government by refusing to engage in bipartisan talks. And, as stories across the country highlight the devastating impact of Obamacare on families and small businesses, they continue to reject our calls for fairness for all Americans.” [USA Today]
  • Donna Brazile writes on CNN.com, “But who are the people using food stamps? They’re us.” [CNN]
  • WWII Vets say feds should be ashamed for closing their memorial during the shutdown. [TIME]
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fitty_three
fitty_three

Sh!t!

This LF backfolding of secondary comments is driving me nuts!

outsider
outsider

The GOP are owning this. 

The bad news, for the right anyway, is that the GOP don't seem to realize - though guys like Armey are realizing. 


When will you admit Handy, your side screwed up, big time?


It's ok, i hope it's not too soon. I'm enjoying watching you twist in the wind, with your rationalizations.

Usually i laugh at you for being stupid. Now i get your being stupid, with being wrong too. And kinda pathetic. 


ahandout
ahandout

When you lie, people notice; eventually, even the hardcore Obamabots  will figure it out.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/09/7-reasons-why-the-public-is-right-to-mistrust-obama-on-syria/279454/

5. President Obama has broken so many promises in the course of campaigning and governing that there's no reason to trust his word when he makes pledges about anything. He long ago proved he'll say what he thinks he needs to say to get what he wants.

There is really only one reason to distrust Obama: His lips are moving.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

Even a national shutdown cannot shut up Michael Jackson on CNN

ahandout
ahandout

This stuff is so funny to Barry O..."they actually believe the stuff I say."

To create five million new energy jobs alone. (The total number of jobs created in Obama’s first term was roughly one-tenth that figure.) To identify all those “shovel-ready” jobs. (Mr. Obama later chuckled that his much-hyped “shovel-ready projects” were “not as shovel-ready as we expected.”)

Let’s not forget the president’s promise to bring down health care premiums by $2,500 for the typical family (they went up) … allow Americans to keep the health care coverage they currently have (many can’t) … refuse to fund abortion via the Affordable Care Act (it did) … to respect religious liberties (he has violated them) … and the insistence that a mandate to buy insurance, enforced by financial penalties, was not a tax (it is).

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/23/obamas-long-list-of-broken-promises/

ahandout
ahandout

@retiredvet OMG, your president should do everything possible to get his government back!  Shoot down those terrorists!  It's a national emergency, danger, danger, danger.  Wah wa wa...

fitty_three
fitty_three

@retiredvet 

According to that map, we seem to be impacted a lot less here in Seattle, but if this drags out, the defence aspects of our economy will become bigger and bigger factors. 

notsacredh
notsacredh

@retiredvet, I'm the only person at work that was prepared for a shutdown and no pay. A handful of us were there in the last shutdowns and yet they didn't think it would happen again. I'm inclined to believe that most federal employees were counting on a last minute deal. The thick headed GOP nuts don't seem to realize that our paychecks aren't a dead-end. We spend them. Everywhere. All of those small businesses the GOP pretends that they're so concerned about? They're not getting my discretionary income because i don't HAVE an income now. Multiply that by everyone else where I work. Multiply that by the other dams. Multiply that by all of the flood control installations. Add in the Federal Building in Pittsburgh. Toss in our Area Office. That's over 500 people just in our district and just our division of the government that won't be spending money. Say the shutdown lasts three weeks or four weeks. I'm not going to rush out and eat 40 meals. I'm not going to see five movies. I'm not to make up all the spending that I normally would. I'm going to start back doing what I did before but bank everything else. Local businesses will lose that portion of my pay. It's gone as far as they're concerned.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@outsider Again, I think it's just more of the echo chamber syndrome. Fox, the idiot base and the whackjob blogs have all been screaming for this since the 2010 midterms. And when those are the only voices you listen to, well, reality's bound to come as a shock.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@fitty_three 

Damn skippy, nothing has ever been gained by giving into fanatics. Never. They just ask for more. Democracy is about the governing of the majority, with protections for the minority. Not the other way around.

yogi
yogi

@sacredh But did they at least get to have tea and crumpets from the White House chef or is he on furlough too?

notsacredh
notsacredh

From the article:

"Am I exasperated?" Obama said of Boehner, who is under pressure from tea party Republicans, and refusing to let the House vote on the Senate-approved spending plan. "I am absolutely exasperated, because this is entirely unnecessary."

So, the house WOULD pass the CR, but Boehner won't even let them vote because a MINORITY (baggers) is holding him back from allowing a vote. what a waste of human flesh.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@ahandout From Sept. 9? Really? Nothing about Syria has changed since then? And nothing else has happened since?

MrObvious
MrObvious

@ahandout 

What's ironic is of course that you don't give a shiat. You'd never vote for him so him breaking promises to us is just a giggle line to you. If he actually kept them all you'd be screaming bloody murder as it would effect you even more.

MementoMori
MementoMori

@ahandout  I'm generally ignoring the trolls, bu this one is worth mentioning.

"hardcore Obamabots"

In what universe is Conor Friederdorf, someone who didn't vote for Obama*, an "Obamabot".

handy, you're flailing. You've reached the point where everyone, except you and a handful of angry Tea Partiers, is an "Obamabot". Take a deep breath, try to relax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_Friedersdorf

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout When you have nothing of value to offer the country people notice even faster. RIP GOP.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@sacredh @retiredvet 

It's no wonder that from Wall Street to main street businesses of all sizes thought this was a bad idea. Not just the ones that depends on government contracts but also those who make a living off selling goods and services to government employees. 'Wingers think 2 dimensionally. Their faith tells them that government is the problem, but forget how much it spends on our economy.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

Also, if you are furloughed, there is no back pay. The hole in the economy stays  a hole:

500 x 3,000 = 1,500,000

That is one damned bigarse hole.

retiredvet
retiredvet

@sacredh  That kind of spending is then lost forever. You won't go back and do 80 meals, 10 movies when this is over. .

retiredvet
retiredvet

@Sue_N @outsider I'm wondering if the GOP seats that are at risk of being lost in 2014 are the "silent majority" in the House. It could very well be that the far right will keep their seats but the others will face a challenge at the voting booths.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@MrObvious

Exactly. He makes a very good point here. This is not about just him, but anyone who follows him. The right may want to tarnish his image but in the end, I think, they are ensuring his place in history.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@yogi, I think Obama may have just wanted to tell Bonehead to his face that it wasn't going to work and the "negotiations" farce wasn't going to play out the way Boehner thinks it will. Or hopes it will. The baggers are making John dance like a stripper.

yogi
yogi

Obama to daughters: Well one good thing about this shutdown, you're Mom can't make the chefs feed us kale. Who's up for Micky D's!?

MrObvious
MrObvious

@sacredh 

He really must love being the punching bag to the teabillies. How else can a man fight so hard to keep his job.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

The Dems tried earlier today, and were not allowed to bring it to the floor for a vote.

Oh, well. Onward and Upwards!

Sort of, anyway...

Sue_N
Sue_N

@MementoMori @ahandout The article is also from Sept. 9. A couple of things re: Syria have changed since then, yes?

notsacredh
notsacredh

@coloradobob1976, they make the noises about small businesses but they're about as concerned about the average person as a shark is about offending his meal.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@retiredvet, you're absolutely right. I'll just be living like somebody does that makes half of what I do until the shutdown is over. When I finally do get paid, I'm going to bank everything I don't have to spend right away. I could go until the end of the year with no problem, but I don't see it lasting more than a month under the worst case scenario. There isn't a store I go to that I haven't told the people at the desk that the reason I won't be spending my usual amount of money is because of my republican congressman and his decision to shut down the government.

fitty_three
fitty_three

retiredvet

I'm seeing and hearing things that indicate that they have damaged their cause there, and it's only going to get worse. I think it's going to give Sue some good things to hole for in TX too.

hivemaster
hivemaster

@retiredvet Yeah, they keep going on and on about how the tea-tistas are in red safe districts, but they flipped the house in 2010, and those seats did NOT come from red districts.  They can go right back.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@sacredh

I think he just wanted Boehner on record for "our position hasn't changed".  The Media came out against Republicans today, Obama wants to milk it.

ahandout
ahandout

@Sue_N @MementoMori @ahandout  Yes Sue, Obama has opened his mouth and told more lies since Sept. 9.  That is ALL that has happened; now go back to sleep.  Take some Soma; it's government approved. 

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91  Did you graffiti your personal bathroom stall?  Stop leaving your phone number and telling everyone that you will give them a good time.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

When you leave, who will be left to turn the lights out?

Really. What are you going to do when your whole world comes crashing down around you? Earth to Handy: Look around!

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Actually you seem to be the LAST. Even Richard Amey and Grover Nordquist have seen the writing on the wall.