Morning Must Reads: August 28

In the news: Syria, 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, the Tea Party, debt limit, hacking of the Times, and the Rim fire.

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • “The Obama administration believes that U.S. intelligence has established how Syrian government forces stored, assembled and launched the chemical weapons allegedly used in last week’s attack outside Damascus, according to U.S. officials. The administration is planning to release evidence, possibly as soon as Thursday, that it will say proves that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad bears responsibility for what U.S. officials have called an ‘undeniable’ chemical attack that killed hundreds on the outskirts of the Syrian capital.” [WashPost]
    • “Prime Minister David Cameron said Britain would propose a resolution at the United Nations on Wednesday accusing the authorities in Damascus of responsibility for a chemical weapons attack one week ago and authorizing ‘all necessary measures’ to protect civilians.” [NYT]
    • 22 House members have signed onto a letter “demanding President Obama consult Congress—and wait for its authorization—before launching military strikes against Syria.” [Hill]
    • How a Syria strike compares to the 1998 Desert Fox initiative and 2003 Iraq invasion. [TIME]
  • Presidents Obama, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter to speak today at the Lincoln Memorial to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. [National Journal]
    • For its One Dream project, TIME interviewed 17 of those who spoke, sang, organized, rallied, led and inspired at the original march.
    • “Fifty years after Martin Luther King delivered his landmark ‘I Have a Dream’ speech at the Lincoln Memorial…African-American progress in the political arena has been spotty.” [WSJ]
    • I Have a Dream” by Martin Luther King
  • Anger at IRS powers Tea-Party Comeback [WSJ]
  • Treasury Secretary Jack Lew tells Speak Boehner that Obama will not negotiate on increasing the debt limit. The federal government will hit the $16.7 trillion debt limit in mid-October. [USA Today]
  • Syrian Electronic Army hacked New York Times website Tuesday. [NYT]
  • The Rim fire spreads deeper into Yosemite National Park, 20% is contained. [L.A. Times]
  • Clinton for 2016? Harold M. Ickes returns to the DNC rules committee. [NYT]
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collioure
collioure

Oh, my!

This Syrian adventure is getting messy.

European feet are chilling and the Russians are sending warships.

sacredh
sacredh

I go in for my physical this morning and then I'm off for the rest of the day. We were going to go to the fair. It's raining. It's also supposed to be near 90. ;  (

sacredh
sacredh

It's MOVIETIME! Another MST3K.

retiredvet
retiredvet

Obama prepares to crawl up NSA's azz with microscope

In a short statement, the White House said Obama had met with the panel, made up of intelligence officials including former CIA deputy director Michael Morrell and academics like Peter Swire, professor at Georgia Tech and expert in privacy law.

I especially like the comment section. Hint: They're not buying it.

fitty_three
fitty_three

when will conservatives realize that it is in their interest, 7,000,000 votes worth, to start respecting the black community?

It would be so much easier than gerrymandering and passing restrictive voter laws....

AlistairCookie
AlistairCookie

@sacredh Good evening!

 Are you aware of Rifftrax?  If not, you are missing out.  It's Mike, Kevin, and Bill recording audio riffing tracks to contemporary movies.  You download the audio for a few bucks, and get the movie on your own.  The whole Twilight series is a thing of comedic beauty.  They also have some seriously hilarious shorts you can download (video).

MrObvious
MrObvious

@retiredvet 

So the person that has the final know how is going to inspect the things he knows and what went wrong? Sounds like a plan only our political system can dredge up.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three  

I don't usually comment on such matters.  I will do so symbolically.

This really is a two-way street.  If a sector of the population throws all of its support to one party and doesn't seek out the other one for a better deal, you wind up with today's situation.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, they'd lose more than that in the white vote if they changed enough to appeal to everyone.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

My second comment I fatfingered out of existance.

But no, there's no need for a two way street because you should have had those 7,000,000 black American conservative votes already

As a matter of fact, we should not be able to do much to impact them or sway them away from their conservative values. The GOP should be looking at them in the same manner the other conservatives are looked on: something that no Dems are likely to touch.

I see it more as an empty street in the GOPers neighborhood.  Empty houses, no cars, no one home.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@collioure @fitty_three OK, I'll bite: "...seek out the other one for a better deal,..."

What "better deal" is being offered by the GOP? 

Total opposition to increases in the minimum wage? Voter suppression through "Voter ID" laws? Birtherism? Repeal of Affirmative Action legislation? Conservative pundits demonizing Trayvon Martin? 40+ votes to repeal Obamacare? 

The "better deal" is just oozing "love"... 

fitty_three
fitty_three

sacredh

"...in the past and in the South..."

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

That may have been true in the past but I think that's rapidly changing.

collioure
collioure

I wouldn't be satisfied with so many lousy schools, gang-dominated and drug-infested communities, and fatherless families.  And I certainly would not be satisfied with the enormous unemployment.

I'd want something better.

Results matter.



collioure
collioure

@kbanginmotown @collioure @fitty_three 

There isn't a better deal offered by the GOP because there's no reward for the GOP at the polls.

Over the years I have noticed that when the GOP puts forward a proposal of interest to African-Americans, they don't go to the wall to pursue it because there's nothing in it for them. 

If you're happy with the deal struck with the Democrats which runs some 50 years now, fine.  I sure wouldn't be.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@kbanginmotown  

Hordes of GOPers spewing racial hatred on MLK day?  I'm sure I would love that too.

And whips.

And chains.

And a beating twice a day to go with my water.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure  

You seem to not understand. Black American conservatives should be in your camp.

Now, why aren't they?

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three 

No, it's a two way street.

There's no competitive bidding for their support.

This sector does not seek a second bid.

fitty_three
fitty_three

And, there is no political deal. The GOP themselves have taken themselves out of the running by their own conduct.

That, in short, is what I'm stating.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure

To be clear, nothing you said was racist.

I was referring to your oblique preferences to theories that were.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@MrObvious

I have to practice some clarity. You hit it on the trailhead. The other two "special handling" theories that come to mind are the ones where we (dems) brainwashed them and where we give them free stuff.

All of these theories are inherently racist.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

There's  nothing racist at all in what I posted. 

This sector of the population has been making the same political deal for about 50 years.  With just one party.

There's no competitive bidding for their support.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@fitty_three @collioure 

It's the idea that some people just vote for a specific reason (be it say skin tone) and not because the other party treats them like lepers. There's a reason why GOP get the billionaires support - it's not because it's the better party for them - they're just cheaper and more will to drop their pants on the first date. They got their base in the bag anyways.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

That is the mindset I'm talking about.

The theories you are edging toward with your euphemistic approach are inherently racist.  Look at them more closely.

The real truth is that they are just like anyone else. 

They don't like being on the receiving end of a constant barrage of insulting behavior.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

I'm not speaking ideologically.

I'm speaking tactically.  This particular sector of the population is stuck in a rut as far as what it receives for its political support.

hivemaster
hivemaster

@fitty_three "The gerrymandering that made it possible was an act of desperation on the part of the GOP."


It will also be their undoing.  In TX, all those 51/49 districts could flip almost over night to 49/51.



sacredh
sacredh

@kbanginmotown, Johnson predicted we'd lose the south for a generation. It's been two and a good chunk of it will be gone for possibly the best part of a third.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Tager

Thanks @Tager and welcome to Swampland!

I'm glad that someone else has seen this.  It's such a simple solution to a simple problem, but most conservatives I've seen don't see the forest for the trees.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

The gerrymandering that made it possible was an act of desperation on the part of the GOP.

Tager
Tager

@fitty_three @Tager From my conversations, and this applies to any demographic, its just as you describe it, dysfunctional way of handling the simplest of issues. Friend of friend who is conservative, recently changed over to the independent side solely because of the Texas voting laws. Being an out of state student, he is not able to vote without extra work. As for being a statistic, there is nothing wrong with stating facts, just people tend not to care about whoever is addressing them by a number.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@La_Randy @Tager @fitty_three @sacredh Lyndon Johnson predicted that the Dems would lose the "bigot" vote, after passage of the Voting Rights Act. Accordingly, southern whites stopped voting Democratic.

Nixon's GOP's "Southern Strategy" grabbed them and has corralled them for the past 40 years.

If today's GOP pissed off the haters...where would they go?

I've wondered whether the Tea Party plus the bigots could split the GOP for a couple of decades. You may be right, sacred...

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Tager

You should explain this more clearly. As far as bridges burned, who burned what bridges?

And how is stating the fact that there are some 7,000,000 black American conservative votes to be had by the GOP doing anything but showing that they are not just a statistic, but are instead, a demographic every bit as normal as the next but whose handling by the GOP so dysfunctional stupid that they have to invent theories to justify it.

I can't really tell from your comment what, exactly, you are referring to.

Tager
Tager

@fitty_three @sacredh I've talked to many people about this issue. A lot feel that there were pretty big bridges burned down and that there is no turning back. I do not completely agree but I have to admit, when your first step is to prove that your audience is not just a statistic, then you have a long way.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I've been saying for quite a while now that i think Ohio is on the verge of turning blue. I think Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada are either there or on the verge too. Where are the swing states for the republicans then?

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, I think so too. They're stuck in the marriage and they might just have to let it run it's course and have a real TPer as a presidential candidate get hammered.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three @fitty_three, how long do you consider the short run? If you look at the states that are trying voter supression, it isn't all extremists in the GOP. It's endemic in the party.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

I think that that would be only in the short run. 

In the long run, they would greatly benefit because conservatism has nothing to do with race once you get rid of already discredited misconceptions.

sacredh
sacredh

@fitty_three, if the establishment republicans tried to move to the middle, the party would split. The Tea Party isn't the majority of the party, but they're more than willing to hold the rest of them hostage to get their way. You take out the TP faction and they'd never even sniff the White House for several elections. It's just too big of a faction to lose.