Morning Must Reads: August 23

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

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ahandout
ahandout

This was from a Swampland article with the following title.  You can now scratch out Libya and insert Syria. Obama dithers and leaders like Assad, Gaddhafi, and Morsi become emboldened, they call his bluff.  Maybe it is from all the mixed messages that Obama sends.

Why Are We Going to War with Libya?


Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/03/18/why-are-we-going-to-war-with-libya/#ixzz1H5CkItZU

He said Gaddafi was suppressing his people and that “left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Gaddhafi would commit atrocities against his people. Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue. The entire region could be destabilized, endangering many of our allies and partners. The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun. Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.”

Here are those very same statements about Iraq made by George Bush to the UN 2002:

 We created a United Nations Security Council, so that — unlike the League of Nations — our deliberations would be more than talk, and our resolutions would be more than wishes. After generations of deceitful dictators, broken treaties and squandered lives, we dedicate ourselves to standards of human dignity shared by all, and to a system of security defended by all.

Today, these standards, and this security, are challenged.

In 1991, Security Council Resolution 688 demanded that the Iraqi regime cease at once the repression of its own people, including the systematic repression of minorities — which, the Council said, "threaten(ed) international peace and security in the region."

This demand goes ignored. Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive." Tens of thousands of political opponents and ordinary citizens have been subjected to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution, and torture by beating, burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation, and rape. Wives are tortured in front of their husbands; children in the presence of their parents — all of these horrors concealed from the world by the apparatus of a totalitarian state.

Obama voted no on Iraq, but now that it he is not just a two bit Senator who major claim to fame was voting present, he has said EXACTLY what Bush said needed to be done in Iraq.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

More PA school fraud. This one happens to be the one Santorum had his kids enrolled in and was illegally billing the commonwealth for.

Fed, state probes target largest charter schools

The founder of Pennsylvania's largest cyber charter school was arrested by federal authorities for allegedly funneling millions through front companies into his personal bank account. The largest bricks-and-mortar charter school in the state received a stinging report from the state Auditor General for receiving more than $1 million in improper lease payments from the state. And that was just in the last 48 hours. Those revelations - about Nick Trombetta, founder of Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, who turned himself in to the FBI on Thursday and Chester Community Charter School, the subject of an audit released Wednesday that found $1.2 million in questionable lease reimbursements and 11 areas where the school was not complying with state law - reminded us of the battle last year over so-called charter school reform legislation. In its final draft the bill included a controversial provision that would have excluded charter school management and vendors from the Right-to-Know law. It did not pass the legislature. Neither did an earlier plan by Gov. Corbett - who as attorney general launched a probe of Trombetta in 2007 - to create a separate entity to approve charter schools that would have removed the decision making from local school districts while leaving taxpayers with the bill. That proposal counted Trombetta among its supporters. He told The Morning Call of Allentown it would make the approval process "less adversarial." In the end, it too failed. Even without the "non-accountability" law many charter schools apparently think they are exempt from the Right- to-Know law. Terry Mutchler, executive director of the Office of Open Records, recently fingered charter schools as the worst offenders of the state Right-to-Know law. "They don't feel they should be subject to this law," Mutchler told lawmakers during a Senate committee hearing in May. "Or, candidly, subject to you."
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/harrisburg_politics/Probes-target-largest-charter-schools.html#VMRcItdgvvJMbvUL.99

fitty_three
fitty_three

You know, I would dearly love to be able to discuss with real conservatives issues that are important. One of the biggest obstacles to that is the inability of most of them to abandon the blind, and I DO mean blind, hatred of Obama.

I don't like Bush, and even less, the administration he assembled but yet, I still give him credit for his proacitivity in Africa and the fact that under adverse political pressure, he signed TARP I, preventing an economic collapse that would have sure followed within days.

i particularly don't like the fact that they go to great lengths to present convoluted, unreasonable rationalizations that they use to justify their unwarranted, ignorant, uninformed, blind hatred of a man whom enough people approved of to elect to the office of POTUS twice.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@fitty_three 

I can't stand going in and risking lives.  I can't stand doing nothing as an attempted genocide and likely chemical weapons attack occur.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three  

There isn't going to be any involvement in the war itself, probably just air strikes against Assad and/or his forces.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three

"Obama as shown tremendous skill in handling NK, china, and other hotspots in the past several years and I trust him in this as well."

LOL

fitty_three
fitty_three

This situation may deteriorate rapidly. Please post any developments you hear of!

collioure
collioure

Part of your problem is that you sense hate that does not exist.

I like him personally, admire his family and think he is out of his league in the WH.

roknsteve
roknsteve

@fitty_three They are also blind and blocked about 2000 to 2008.  You would think those years never happened.  Actions have no effect in republican land.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure So would you have preferred McCain? Remember the guy who's economic adviser called Americans whiners for claiming there was a recession in the Summer of 2008 and who was pushing to invade Iran.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@roknsteve  

Just more convoluted rationalizations. I remember one commenter who tried to split the Great Recession into two parts: one from 2007 to 2009 caused by the Dem congress, and the other from 2009 to now caused by Obama.

How stupid can one get?

ahandout
ahandout

@collioure   When a person is handed everything in his life, he becomes a narcissistic elitist who thinks he knows everything, when in reality he doesn't know Sh!t.  That's not racism, stupid.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 @collioure @fitty_three  

NK makes a lot of noise, Third Grade.

BTW, I think you have a lot of nerve attacking all these candidates for being warmongers when the incompetent community organizer started sending troops to Afghanistan right after he collected the Nobel Peace Prize he never earned.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@collioure 

Here's a point to ponder, dummy:

You have no choice but to trust POTUS.

 Eat it.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Hey, tell us how he has both sides in Egypt hating us, how he missed the uprising in Iran, how he bungled the Iraq handoff, what he was trying to accomplish in Afghanistan, how he somehow missed the 20th anniv of the fall of the Berlin wall, how he antagonized the our perennial friends in London .  . .

Pullllleeeeze!

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 @collioure  

As for foreign policy, Third Grade, it isn't a matter of being aggressive or passive.  in each case it's a matter of striking the right balance between effective diplomacy and the threat of force to achieve desired ends.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure Say what you will be if you notice his foreign policy is more aggressive than what you would expect from a Democrat and his economic policy is much more business friendly. My disappointment with him is the fact that he didn't go after the big banks and wall street firms that crashed the economy in the first place.

collioure
collioure

The fictitious 2008 Obama was a style of President he never attempted to present.  It wasn't just a position on the political spectrum.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Apparently you don't remember Obama's campaign. He was going to govern from the center.  Public financing only (which he reversed in July).  No lobbyists . . . 

Knowing what I know today, having read "Game Change," understanding how trigger-happy McCain is as well as how unfocused he appears to be, I would not have voted, but I would have preferred the fictitious Obama promised to us.

collioure
collioure

@fitty_three @collioure  

Again?

Really now!

He was my Senator.  I voted for him in 2004/2006? whatever..

As President he is a huge disappointment, a failure.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91  

I think the man has a rather formidable resumé.  He was a success at almost everything he touched.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 @collioure  

Don't ask me to explain his campaign.  I sense he was uncomfortable with the party he was representing.  (I would also have been)..

I was comfortable with the man and his capacity to govern reasonably and well.

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 @collioure 

No, the fictitious Obama was the best choice in 2008.

I surely would have preferred Romney today.  Good manager.  Knows how to set priorities.  Moderate fellow.  Hardly a warmonger.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@collioure @mantisdragon91 So then it sounds like you agree that Obama was the best choice available to us in 2008. as for 2012 have you looked at what Romney proposed. His job gain promises were identical to what the economy has ended up generating, and he surrounded himself with the same NeoCon Advisers that Bush listened to. He had also filled him cabinet with Military contractors. Do you honestly think he would have reduced our footprint in Afghanistan or not have gotten us into a war with Iran?

collioure
collioure

@mantisdragon91 @collioure  

No, I would have preferred the Obama we were promised, the one that never showed up.

McCain also would have sent lots of troops to Afghanistan, and the guy didn't even seem to want the job in 2008.  If you can't run a decent campaign, how are you going to manage the WH?

ahandout
ahandout

@fitty_three@roknsteve As soon as you find the legislation passed and signed under Bush that caused the Mortgage Meltdown, let me know.  

In 2000, Congress also passed legislation that, among other things, clarified that certain kinds of financial instruments were not regulated by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). Among these were "credit default swaps," which have played a role in this year's meltdown. Whether this law constituted "deregulation" is not clear, since the pre-legislation status of these instruments was uncertain. Nor is it a given that CFTC regulation of their trading would have avoided the financial crisis. In fact, many policymakers, including Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, argued that their regulation would do more harm than good.

In the nine years since that legislation -- including the eight years of the Bush presidency -- Congress has enacted no further legislation easing burdens financial services industry.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/10/meltdowns-and-myths-did-deregulation-cause-the-financial-crisis