Morning Must Reads: August 16

In the news; NSA breaks privacy rules ; Islamists call for day of 'rage' in Egypt; Defense Department approves new measures on sexual assault; and Vogue profiles Wendy Davis.

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • The Washington Post published an audit, leaked by Edward Snowden, that shows the National Security Administration has broken privacy rules and acted outside of its legal authority thousands of times since 2008.
  • In the wake of the violence that killed over 600, Islamists in Egypt are calling for a day of ‘rage’ and urging supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood to protest, the New York Times reports.
  • Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel approved six new measures that work to curb sexual assault in the military, reports Politico.
  • Yesterday, the Post reports, was the anniversary of Japan’s World War II surrender and the country’s role during the war is still a sensitive subject in East Asia.
  • National Journal writes on the “Second Term Blues.” 
  • A former President of Clowns of America International says in a opinion column CNN:  a real clown wouldn’t mock President Obama.
  • With pension debts rising in cities across the US,  Salon says we can expect to see more bankruptcy filings in municipalities.
  • Vogue profiled Texas State Senator Wendy Davis. 

 

 

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fitty_three
fitty_three

Well, I know the Hawks are not 40-10 better than the Broncs.

But it does show what happens when one belly flops onto a pile of running chain saws...

fitty_three
fitty_three

Speaking of football, the Hawks/Broncos game has more twists and turns than a B grade cliffhanger.  A Kearse 107 yard run back for a RD, Hillman gets stripped going over the top averting a guaranteed Bronco TD but wait - Browner runs the loose ball back 106 yards for another Hawk TD! 

Don't forget Golden Tate. 33 - 7 going to second half.

notsacredh
notsacredh

OT, but we just put the dining room table back in the dining room. It took us three days, but we cleaned the whole upstairs and scrubbed all of the carpeting, My wife's back is killing her. Mine is sore and I'm breaking out the pain pills. We're going to watch episodes of the old Outer Limits from the 60's until we fall asleep (or on the floor). Tomorrow, all I'm going to do is mow and trim the lawn and wrap some Christmas presents.

roknsteve
roknsteve

@ahandout Remember when signed the bill authorizing the NSA?  I bet you protested aver loudly.  Not!

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh The Morsi regime was trying to kill off democracy in Egypt.  The joke was "one vote one time."  And, then it was going to be a Muslim Brotherhood theocracy.  That is why this is a revolution, and why the Muslim Brotherhood is being hunted down on the street by police and Egyptian citizens.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

My flipflops have more credibility than McCain.

Even when I step in dog doo.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@kbanginmotown 

I don't think that domestic intelligence is being any more extreme now than its been in the past. It's a dirty job that no government, good or bad, has ever foresworn. 

Now, if these guys had revealed something like Tuskegee, these two would be higher up in my personal pantheon. As it is, I'm sorry, but they're worms.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@sacredh "Wrapping Christmas presents in August" 

Dam#, sacred, you are one OCD DFH... ;)

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91  

You did notice we have no control over what happens in Egypt. I don't think this has any impact on us.

Right?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@TyPollard

[head scratch

I think you said something good. We'll have to cut some, and they might wind up playing against us. That will not be good.

fitty_three
fitty_three

TyPollard

They've put Tavares Jackson in. I think the nasties are over tonight. I think we're setting the table for some grudges with the Broncos.

ahandout
ahandout

@fitty_three @kbanginmotown  What this government is doing, right now, it the equivalent of J. Edgar Hoover gathering dirt on politicians.  But now, the snoopers are gathering dirt on everyone. 

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@sacredh @kbanginmotown As the highest ranked comment on reddit says:

"A journalist hoping a leak is murdered? I thought they were supposed to be about getting information out not suppressing it." - quadrophonic

There's a balance between information being suppressed and being kept secret (see: Woodward/Bernstein). Julian Assange and Bradley Manning may not be Choir Boys, but they and Edward Snowden have helped us to at least slow the the growth of the NSA's "Big Brother" tendencies...

notsacredh
notsacredh

@ahandout, I'll be done Christmas shopping and have everything wrapped by December 1st. I like to enjoy the Christmas holidays.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@kbanginmotown, before I remarried, I sometimes had all of my Christmas shopping done before Halloween.

fitty_three
fitty_three

I think a lot of the premises by McCain don't hold water.

The first is that the elected government was Islamist, and blood usually squirts out of GOP eyes at the mere thought of siding with them, therefore, the prime motive seems to be just another serving of anti-Obama rhetoric.

We also don't pay them to not attack Israel. The army has had a very clear stance on that issue. That's besides the fact they got their areas whipped. We give them aid as an outgrowth of our promise of aid in exchange for a peace treaty with them. Egypt has been a dependable ally in furthering the US interests in oil.

Keep in mind it was the neocons who wanted to see democracy sweep across the middle east. But, like many things GOP, the staunch pro-US governments failed to materialize. Obama has a clear grasp of this fact.

If we want a real backlash just pick a side: If we pick one, we are perceived as usurping the democratic process regardless of whether the side we pick wins or loses.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@mantisdragon91

The entire scenario is complex.  I remember getting into massive discussions about whether the toppling of Morsi was an act of democracy or not.  It's insanely difficult to understand what the right path forward is at this time.

The reality is that things are not black and white.  It's not this is a democracy or this isn't, nor is it true that the answer is you either give them the money to not attack Israel or you don't.   There are a lot of middle grounds you can go through first.  The US has already made its first action - the cancelling of the war games.  I'm certain there are other moves they can make.  We don't need to go and shoot the hostage.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91

There has never been a time when what you've stated hasn't been true to some degree for every country in the world.

I fail to see why that means we goofed. Cutting them off would make the truth of your statement even more compelling and McCain even less relevant.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@fitty_three @mantisdragon91 Read the article. The Saudis and other Gulf Coast Arab states are already giving Egypt much more than we are. Guess who has a greater say in what they do? Care to bet that the Saudi interests align with ours?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91  

I think that is in the cards if things get more extreme, but we have to be careful when we do things like that.

Once we cut ties, even monetary, we lose influence from that moment on - and - someone else might step up to exert influence in direct opposition.

As far as I'm concerned, McCain just runs around screaming about what he wants. I think he should go in the baffroom and yell at a mirror till it cracks.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@fitty_three @mantisdragon91 The fact that we continue giving them money reflects badly on us. I think it is was overdue for us to stop providing funds for Egypt, Israel and any other regime that takes our funds and then destabilizes the region with them, as well as acts against our best interests.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91

We'll have to disagree there.  

The image that is being broadcast from us is that the army usurped a duly elected government.The fact we failed to convince them to not attack the protesters, and, instead, use nonlethal means is not our fault.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@fitty_three @mantisdragon91 Not quite. It helps paint a narrative that we only support democracy when it favors our goals. A narrative our global opponents will be more than happy to expand on.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@TyPollard  

That will suck. But we have a few more games to make decisions like that.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@TyPollard

Let's chum. But wow, wait till these two teams hit their stride.

Beasts, all.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

Since you prefer Al-Queda over a black POTUS, I suggest you move to Agfanistan. No taxes either.

ahandout
ahandout

@jmac @ahandout @fitty_three @kbanginmotown  Unless you have plans, I am not worried about Americans, and then there is that pesky 4th amendment.  But, who needs constitutional protections when we have big government to protect us and, a president who is open, truthful, and transparent.

Obama is a sniveling, trite, paranoid narcissist, who thinks he knows everything, when in fact he is an incompetent fool.

jmac
jmac

@ahandout @fitty_three @kbanginmotown No, ahandout, it's NOT the same as J. Edgar Hoover getting dirt on politicians.  

We had a president who ignored al Qaeda to take out a petty secular dictator.  (Were you marching and yelling?)    Too bad Bush wasn't paying attention even when he was hit over the head with a sledgehammer when our towers fell.

Let's not let it happen again.   

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

No takers here.  I'll let you handle "the sky is falling" stuff.

Unlike you and your other nut, I fear Al-Queda much more.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@ahandout, there is a way to edit posts. Copy the comment that you've made. Delete the post with errors. Paste the comment and correct it in the box. It's a crappy way to edit posts, but so far it's the only way we've found to do so.

notsacredh
notsacredh

@ahandout, my wife is in poor health. I do as much of the work around the house as I can so that she doesn't have to. We go all out for the holidays. We start decorating for fall in September. We start putting up Halloween decorations Oct. 1st. Nov. 1st we start decorating for fall/Thanksgiving. We start decorating for Christmas the day after Thanksgiving. It takes a few days to decorate for Christmas because we put up 5 trees (including a 9 footer). We buy for at least 2 dozen people and buy things during the year and wrap them when we get the chance. When December rolls around, we like to slow down and just enjoy the holiday season and avoid the crowds.

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh

@ahandout

 I don't get started until then.  Sometimes it is hard to make the transition to Christmas when you were just at the beach a few weeks ago. 

Can we have an edit button?

And yes, I am rubbing it in that October is some of the best beach weather.  If I have to put up with all the BS from the libs in this state...