Morning Must Reads: August 12

In the news: new steps to correct the justice system; privacy vs. the NSA; Israel-Palestine negotiations; the NYC mayoral race; shrinking federal budget; high Euro zone unemployment; and the impact of a near-miss on the debt ceiling

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

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sacredh
sacredh

OT, but the Perseid Meteor shower is going on. You folks might want to check it out.

Sue_N
Sue_N

Somewhere down thread, someone (mantis, I think?) posted a video of Rep. Blake Farenthold (one of our Texas geniuses) going birther. Lest anyone think that was just a one-off, let me introduce y'all to ol' Blake. He'd be the one in the duck pajamas. But wait, there's more! And still more!

Texas. It really is a whole other world.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

 She seems to really have the GOP's panties in a bunch.

RNC Hits Three In One Ad: Hillary Clinton, CNN And NBC 

The Republican National Committee on Sunday released an ad online attacking CNN and NBC for alleged media bias over their decision to produce documentaries about Hillary Clinton, a potential 2016 presidential contender.

The RNC has threatened to end its partnership with the two networks in the hosting of 2016 GOP primary debates if they don't cancel plans for the Clinton documentaries.

The ad includes footage from Clinton's testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on the September 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, with a subtitle that reads, "Here's one clip they might 'forget' to show you." The footage covers Clinton's heated exchange with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) as the then-secretary of state was questioned about the attack on a U.S. facility that resulted in the death of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

"Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided to kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?" Clinton said before the committee.

The ad contrasts Clinton's testimony with that of Eric Nordstrom, a former State Department regional security officer in Libya, who said, "What happened prior, during and after the attack matters, and it matters to my colleagues at the Department of State."

The RNC urges viewers to "Stop Media Bias" by signing its petition to "drop planned programming promoting Hillary Clinton."

The Sunlight Foundation reported that while the spot is a good broadcast TV length at around 30 seconds, there is no evidence of it being included in any recent ad buys.

Tero
Tero

Nothing says batsh1t crazy like ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!

paulejb
paulejb

Smoking gun video?

Lois Lerner explains who let the dogs out prior to the election in 2010. Targeting was widespread and orchestrated against conservative groups.

Originally Posted by larrydavis427 "Lois Lerner spoke to a small group at Dukes School of public policy. She was caught on a Breitbart video just 2 weeks before the mid-term elections in October 10, 2010. Lerner was asked about the flow of money from corporations to 501c {4] groups. "EVERYONE, MEANING DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA, ARE UP IN ARMS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT" LERNER REPLIED. ADDING "THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT." "THEY, OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS, WANT THE IRS TO FIX THE PROBLEM."  She also said "SO EVERYBODY IS SCREAMING AT US NOW." FIX IT NOW BEFORE THE ELECTION. " "CAN'T WE SEE HOW MUCH THESE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING." '
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12125213

sacredh
sacredh

I curse fog. I say vile things about fog. I think horrible things about fog. I'm thinking of every one of George Carlin's 7 swear words. I fart in the general direction of the fog. I curse John Carpenter for making a movie called "The Fog". I curse London Fog. I curse Foggy Bottom.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@sacredh And yet he won't fork over the dough for a decent wig.

sacredh
sacredh

And yes, the GOP rep is from Texas.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@mantisdragon91 

The RNC just blinked.  This is a scare tactic meant to convince the networks that they're serious about their willingness to cancel the debates but the fact that they won't even use it for an ad buy says that they aren't serious about actually cancelling.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

This is a mess brought on by six years of good times and one mother of a recession.  City mayors like the ones in my town were able to get away with lowering the property tax rate every year when times were good (one even gave police and fire pension funds as much as they pleased).  Now, it's payday. 

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@mantisdragon91 

The problem with pension systems is that they're unfunded mandates.  A properly funded pension system, you put something in the range of 13% of an employee's salary into a fund of some sort (even just a high-interest savings account) and let it grow over time so that you're more or less funded when it comes time to pay the pension.  Only all of these governments didn't do that - they stuck zero dollars in a fund somewhere and now have to pay 100% of the employee's salary to them and when the city goes bankrupt, there's no fund and no money available for the employees.

You don't have a pension until someone's actually put money into it.  It needs to be a law somewhere.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Tero 

It's 'winger speak for IM SERIOUS. NOW A CAT IN DRYER SCENE FOR YOU - WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

NP042
NP042

@Tero Apparently forum posts are the paragon of 'winger proof.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@Tero And here I thought it would be their logo

"Where the weak are killed and eaten"


Since when is our troll a subscriber to a cannibal site?

sacredh
sacredh

@terryclifton1, the fog started dropping just as the stars started appearing. Now I have to wait for the Leonids in November.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Good in all 50 states, three territories, one district and twelve provinces. 

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@paulejb

The reality is that people who use such tactics - bold too - are saying "what I have to say is more important than what you have to say" with you being the global sort.  Extremists and the immature tend to believe that what they have to say is so important that it's worth such treatment.  It also indicates a lack of willingness to listen - another symptom of extremism.

It's not to say that it's necessarily wingnut right-wing - extremists of all stripes will apply this tactic - nor is it to say that extremists will always apply this tactic, but that is the mentality so yes, it is something you will find is true just about anywhere.

Tero
Tero

@mantisdragon91 @Tero 

Whoa, that's ugly! I didn't click on the link previously. Conservatives are still living in Web 1.0 world. 

The 90's are calling, they want their website back.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@roknsteve @Sue_N You have no idea. I don't know if it's the heat or all the carcinogens we've been pouring into our air for so long, but strange is a way of life for us.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@roknsteve

My brain keeps transposing the "t" to make him sound like the rude person he seems to be in reality

Sue_N
Sue_N

@sacredh @Sue_N It is. When I was looking at duck-boy, I was trying to figure out where I'd seen him before. Now I know. ;)

sacredh
sacredh

@Sue_N, you have to admit. the resemblance is uncanny.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@ahandout

I fail to see how anything I said is made irrelevant by the use of the term "highlight"

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@ahandout

Y'know, I hadn't even heard the tale and I knew you'd completely missed the point, but just to make sure, I checked:

"There is the old story about the farmer and a mule. A man sees the farmer grab a 2x4 and whack the mule across the head. Questioning the farmer as to why he thought it was necessary to hit the mule in such a way the farmer replies. "Oh the mule is plenty smart but first you have to get his attention."

If the mule's pretty smart, you aren't saying that the mule is "so freaking ignorant that... [it] cannot comprehend it"

Also, ignorance is not knowing.  Stupidity is not being able to understand.  If you don't know something, you're ignorant.  If you know something and don't understand it, you're stupid.  So when I'm explaining something to you and you can't comprehend it, you're not ignorant, you're stupid.

Though thinking it through, about the only way you could get that the farmer uses the 2X4 on the mule because I'm too "ignorant" [sic] to understand is if you believe that when someone is too stupid to understand something, the solution is to whack them on the head and again and again with the dogma until the only thing they think is the dogma.  Now, while I know that worked with you, that's a rather narrow way of assuming things work.  You see, there's a few factors in such a tale that the farmer might have that you clearly would not - most notably, that he's a farmer with actual power over the mule.  You, you're just an annoying fly buzzing around.  You don't have respect - not even from your supposed allies - and no where near enough brains to use what few tools you have to actually be effective at annoyance or convincing people.  Instead, you just sputter your wheels, certain in your own intelligence and wisdom but so evidently lacking both, hammering your fists on the doors of wisdom but denied entry to your own lack of self-knowledge.

You know nothing

You think nothing

You are nothing

Just the sludge under the rock and barely worth the time of day except for the exquisite pleasure of flushing you down the drain.

Enjoy your evening, Handy.  There are comets to watch.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@paulejb

Interesting that in response to a post where I point out the arrogance, elitism and self-absorption that would go into such a thing, you go and justify your actions with arrogance and self-absorption - a claim that you are so superior to us and your words are so superior that you have the right to beat us over the head with it.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@forgottenlord @paulejb 

Universal. Kind of like non drunk people talking themselves and peeing next to the highway crazy. It's just nothing any sane person does.