Chris Christie and Rand Paul Escalate War of Words

The tit for tat between two titans in the GOP over the future of conservatism keeps getting nastier and nastier.

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New Jersey Governor Chris Christie speaks during the Clinton Global Initiative America meeting in Chicago, Illinois, June 14, 2013.

The war of words between New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is heating up, with the two potential Republican presidential contenders clashing over foreign policy and domestic spending in deeply personal attacks.

This verbal barrage is more than just good television, it’s a fight for the heart and soul of the Republican Party that is split at the seam on the proper role of the American government at home and abroad. Paul’s strain of thinking has risen unchecked within the Republican ranks over the past half-dozen years, but now the mainstream GOP is fighting back.

Last week Christie called Paul’s libertarian foreign policy “dangerous,” invoking the memory of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Paul fired back Sunday that Christie was only interested in government spending.

“They’re precisely the same people who are unwilling to cut the spending, and their `Gimme, gimme, gimme – give me all my Sandy money now.’” Paul said, according to the Associated Press. “Those are the people who are bankrupting the government and not letting enough money be left over for national defense.”

In a press conference Tuesday, Christie said he had no personal beef with Paul, before calling the son of former Rep. Ron Paul a preeminent pork barrel spender — which amounts to something of a personal slur against the avowed small-government lawmaker.

“So if Senator Paul wants to start looking at where he’s going to cut spending to afford defense, maybe he should start looking at cutting the pork barrel spending that he brings home to Kentucky, at $1.51 for every $1.00 and not look at New Jersey, where we get $0.61 for every $1.00,” Christie said, noting his state pays out more than every federal dollar it receives. “So maybe Senator Paul could — could, you know, deal with that when he’s trying to deal with the reduction of spending on the federal side.  But I doubt he would, because most Washington politicians only care about bringing home the bacon so that they can get reelected.”

On CNN Tuesday evening, Paul struck back, calling his potential 2016 rival the “king of bacon.”

“This is the king of bacon talking about bacon,” he said. “You know, we have two military bases in Kentucky. And is Governor Christie recommending that we shut down our military bases?”

Paul repeated his criticism over the handling of federal relief funds for Hurricane Sandy, which Republican lawmakers held up — a move which drew anger from Christie.

“He’s making a big mistake picking a fight with other Republicans, because the Republican Party is shrinking in — in New England and in the northeast part of our country,” Paul continued. “I’m the one trying to grow the party by talking about liberation ideas of privacy and the Internet.  And attacking me isn’t helping the party.  He’s hurting the party.”

“Why would he want to pick a fight with the one guy who has the chance to grow the party by appealing to the youth and appealing to people who would like to see a more moderate and less aggressive foreign policy,” he added.

The battle is on. The question for Republicans is whether they can get it over in time for the 2016 race, and what casualties it leaves behind.


Paul’s remarks on CNN:

231 comments
SukeMadiq
SukeMadiq

Rand Paul may be mentally ill, he is a nut.

ZacPetit
ZacPetit

This is an interesting development. However, it is discouraging to see Rand Paul being touted as a libertarian. Despite having an isolationist position with foreign policy, Rand's track record just doesn't measure up to the title.

tkulaga
tkulaga

Rand Paul is no different than Marco Rubio. I will not vote for either one of them.

BenevolentLawyer
BenevolentLawyer

Paul needs his behind kicked by Christie. I am tired of the war of words. Paul is an annoying know it all punk. I wish he and Christie would wear sumo wrestling garb and go at it. I want the bigotry beaten out of Paul. Yes, I abhor violence but Paul, like one or two commenters here, irk the heck out of me.  

WilfTarquin
WilfTarquin

In Dungeons & Dragons there was something called the Blood War. It was a war between chaotic evil Demons and lawful evil Devils over the correct way of being evil.

Yeah.

Do you want lawful evil Christie, following in the footsteps of Bush on surveillance and corporate cronyism, or chaotic evil Paul, who wants to destroy the US military, legalize drugs, and dismantle the state?

roknsteve
roknsteve

Why can't John McCain just appoint Rand Paul Prime Mover and he can start chopping up the govt. like mince meat,  Works for me. 

sacredh
sacredh

I'm not saying Rand Paul is the Devil, but Rand Paul is the Devil.

BobJan
BobJan

Legislation Sponsored or Cosponsored by Rand Paul, and it did become law.

Freedom to Fish, you've got to be kidding. Rand Paul is a joke. He hasn't done anything but obstruct, complain and suck the taxpayers dry of salary and benefits. He needs to go back to being an ophthalmologist. He could help way more people.

  • S.982 — 113th Congress (2013-2014)LAW Latest Title: Freedom to Fish Act Sponsor: Sen. Alexander, Lamar [R-TN] (Introduced 05/16/2013) Cosponsors: 3 Latest Action: 06/03/2013 Became Public Law No: 113-13. Tracker:

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terryclifton1
terryclifton1

@ZacPetit  

We always need more wars..More of our sons and daughters going overseas in our quest for blood..You sound just like you speak for both parties, you pesky Imperialist/Occupier..

BobJan
BobJan

@ZacPetit just what is Rand Pauls track record. Most people who work for someone else which is Rand Pauls position. He works for us. What accomplishments has he done the short time in office beside being a second in command sponsor of the "Freedom to Fish Act". If a person is to run on their record I want to know what they've accomplished. And I know that the Congress accomplishes next to nothing. What they're really good at is complaining that the other side 's ideas won't work. We've come to be a pretty illiterate country when it comes to voting in officials who keep doing nothing but complaining. Like I said before to you, the money has to be taken out of politics. The Congress only works for "the donors".

ZacPetit
ZacPetit

@WilfTarquin "... destroy the US military, legalize drugs, and dismantle the state?"

When you put it that way, he doesn't seem so bad.

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Libertyformeandmine 

Basically; we kill a unicorn for it's horn - sacrifice a virgin with the horn and we get super prosperity in 5 years time?


Sign me up.

BobJan
BobJan

@Libertyformeandmine  Means Testing for Social Security? you've got to be kidding me. These weasels in Congress are going to tell the American people that the money they put into their account is going to decided by the weasels in Congress as to whether or not they can get a check of their own money. All the while these weasels get free paychecks, free health care and free pensions care of the US taxpayer. 

Increasing the age for beneficiaries of Social Security? you've got to be kidding me again. All the while these weasels get to collect their pensions before anyone else. Rand Paul is a sloth of the worst kind. Glad his father is gone and now it's time for him and his kind to be gone. When he comes up with a plan to stop all political donations (bribery) to public servants then maybe we should listen. Other than that he's just prostituting himself .

roknsteve
roknsteve

@sacredh He does keep his hair up high in the front like he's hiding something.  Horns? 

MrObvious
MrObvious

@sacredh 

Or at least something lesser Demonic - or possessed by that unholy hair piece. 

roknsteve
roknsteve

@BobJan Uh-oh, another fish hater.  Sen. Paul has plans for you.

Libertyformeandmine
Libertyformeandmine

@BobJan Rand voted against the PATRIOT Act extension that Obama signed into law.


Goodbye 4th amendment.  Hello Mr Snowden.


Rand Paul 2016.



ZacPetit
ZacPetit

@terryclifton1 @ZacPetit You'd have to be hard pressed to find me saying "we always need more wars." I agree with Paul's foreign policy stance.

ZacPetit
ZacPetit

@BobJan @Libertyformeandmine If you have a more viable solution to make social security solvent in the future, I'm all ears. Unless of course you're getting your paychecks now and don't care. 

BobJan
BobJan

@Libertyformeandmine@BobJanyou mean to tell me it's the same Patriot Act that the Republicans were first for and signed into law by GW and now they're against it. MY my, what a coincidence. If you want to be safe here in America certain steps have to be taken. If you're not a threat what do you have to worry about?

 he USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 is an Act of Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. The title of the act is a ten letter bacronym (USA PATRIOT) that stands for Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.[1]

The act, as a response to the terrorist attacks of September 11th, significantly weakened restrictions on law enforcement agencies' gathering of intelligence within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.

On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011,[2] a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act:[3] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves"—individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[4]

MrObvious
MrObvious

@Libertyformeandmine @BobJan 

You mean the PATRIOT Act that was extended and signed into law previously? Or did our 4th amendment say buh bye only on the second extension?

BobJan
BobJan

@ZacPetit @BobJan @Libertyformeandmine I do get my SS now. But I'm worried that all who come after me won't have the same. It needs to be fixed but not the way Politicians want it. There has already been panels that have recommendations which no one in Congress wants to hear.  First off, why do we let politicians make decisions about anything that has to do with money? They are bribed through political contributions to do whatever they're told by their donors. They don't want to raise the 113,000 amount because probably 97% or whatever of the people don't contribute "one thin dime" to their campaign and they don't make that much so it won't amount to anything from them. The people that donate to their campaigns (bribery) I'm sure make more than 113,000 and would be taxed more. Now none of us likes to pay more tax. I'm sure we all agree on that. But those people that would pay more on the raising of the 113,000 give to their campaigns and therefore they get listened to. If by now you haven't figured out that politicians on both sides of the aisle are beholden to their donors, you need to reexamine your political views. We had no problem of starting 2 WARS and then lowering taxes when we should have raised taxes to pay for the 2 WARS. We have a slight problem with Social Security, and we should have experts look at how best to solve it and then give the ideas to Congress and tell them to pick one and get it done. I don't see the Congress raising the age of federal employees to stretch the tax dollar more. I don't see any "public employee" being told that we don't have enough money to sustain this type of retirement so they will have to work until 70 or else. I am totally against the way politicians "pit" one faction (age, gender, race) against the other just so they "don't have to do anything that helps America. The Congress does exactly what it's supposed to do for all their wealthy donors. You don't hear them screaming about how inept they are. That's why their incomes and wealth have gone up and their taxes have gone down. Their donors are sitting "fat and happy" while the rest of the country is just staying still. Remember, "after the votes are counted, the voters don't count". If you are a republican lover I'd like you to tell me what Positive things they've done for America in the last 10 years. And the same holds true for the democrats. If you're a democrat lover I'd like you to tell me what Positive things they've done for America in the last 10 years. If the money was removed from politics the Congress would do something so they actually had a resume for success. Right now they don't run on their record. They run against the "other persons" ineptness to get something done. 

cent-fan
cent-fan

@Libertyformeandmine @BobJan Switzerland?  An economy based on high end loan sharking and money laundering hidden in mountains?  That's your nearest example of a Libertarian utopia?  And I suppose if the money they get to play with comes from blood diamonds, child labor, or human trafficking that would only fit in the Libertarian ideal of see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil, but for God's sake let me have the freedom to benefit from evil.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

The only really "libertarian" country is Somalia.  I understand you can get there by plane but it is BYOAK47 and bullets.

Libertyformeandmine
Libertyformeandmine

@BobJan 


It would take 500 Libertarians in Congress to "run America" like a libertarian model would demonstrate.


Until we get there, I'm just happy with peace, liberty, and a balanced budget.


Switzerland does well as a non-interventionist neutral financial head.

BobJan
BobJan

can you name a country that's run libertarian like so we can see how that model works. Huh! there is none? why is it so popular then? popular on "The Twilight Zone".

BobJan
BobJan

@Libertyformeandmine @mantisdragon91 what business have you run? The country is not a business, it's a nation of people and the more you abuse them the more they're pissed off at you for making dumb decisions like bailing out all the wall streeter's and the political contributors to all the weasels in Congress.

terryclifton1
terryclifton1

@Libertyformeandmine @roknsteve @MrObvious @BobJan  

Both parties are the same to me. They both despise the concept of liberty and individual freedom. They love their drones, guns, war, and other people's children dying for the military industrial complex. Innocent lives lost from our cluster bombs and drone strikes mean absolutely nothing to them as long as it's their guy in the White House.

BobJan
BobJan

@Libertyformeandmine@MrObvious@BobJanThe Bill of Rights enumerates freedoms not explicitly indicated in the main body of the Constitution, such as freedom of religion, freedom of speech, a free press, and free assembly; the right to keep and bear arms; freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, security in personal effects, and freedom from warrants issued without probable cause; indictment by a grand jury for any capital or "infamous crime"; guarantee of a speedy, public trial with an impartial jury; and prohibition of double jeopardy. In addition, the Bill of Rights reserves for the people any rights not specifically mentioned in the Constitution and reserves all powers not specifically granted to the federal government to the people or the States. The Bill was influenced by George Mason's 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights, the English Bill of Rights 1689, and earlier English political documents such as Magna Carta (1215).