Self-Interest Could Sink Immigration Reform

Only 38 of the House's 234 Republicans, or 16%, represent districts in which Latinos account for 20% of the population or more.

  • Share
  • Read Later
Kevin Lamarque / REUTERS

Speaker of the House John Boehner addresses the 113th Congress in the Capitol in Washington January 3, 2013.

Many of the Republican Party’s smartest thinkers believe passing comprehensive immigration reform is a necessity for the GOP to continue competing at a national level. But at a local level, the party’s lawmakers aren’t necessarily motivated by the same concerns.

According to the Wall Street Journal, only 38 of the House’s 234 Republicans, or 16%, represent districts in which Latinos account for 20% of the population or more. Mitt Romney‘s loss in November may have proven that Republicans need to better communicate with and cater to Hispanics to win the White House, but 196 Republican Congressmen know their job is safe regardless of their immigration vote. As the Washington Post‘s Chris Cillizza put it, “Politics is a team sport, but not for House Republicans.”

This clash of incentives–between the party’s national needs and the narrow self-interest of its elected officials–threatens the fate of immigration reform. Even the first family of the Republican Party cannot motivate its members to act beyond their own self-interest. George W. Bush couldn’t convince Congress to overhaul immigration laws in 2006 and 2007. Six years later, with a Democratic president in his second term, Bush’s older brother–who may be gearing up for a White House bid of his own — offers a case for why reform is good for the party. “No Republican would vote for legislation that stifled economic growth, promoted illegal immigration, added to the welfare rolls, and failed to ensure a secure border,” write Jeb Bush and Clink Bolick in today’s Wall Street Journal“Yet they essentially will do just that if they fail to pass immigration reform.”

No matter how strong his argument, Bush will have a hard time winning over House Republicans by making an analytical case. If immigration reform fails, blame the Republican congressmen who act in their own self-interest rather than that of their party.

27 comments
armandocdll81
armandocdll81

The whole reason we're in this mess is due to self-interest, that of the foreign nationals who decided to rip apart our borders and that of the employers who decided to kick American workers into the gutter. 

CharlesEdwardBrown
CharlesEdwardBrown

We need to defeat the Senate Immigration Reform bill in the House. NO AMNESTY and No pathway to US citizenship. No massive increases of H1B visa holders who will take jobs from American scientists and engineers. We need jobs.

Nogig
Nogig

House Republicans have a clear choice.

They can choose to win the hearts of 7.5 million voters -- the nation's STEM workers who were COMPLETELY and UTTERLY BETRAYED by Senate Democrats.

Or they can compete for donations by tech titans with favored Democrats.

But they can only choose one -- which will it be?

PulSamsaraXi
PulSamsaraXi

The REAL fence.

- Biometric E-Verify Now.
- Jail for offending employers.
- Cut off the Social Services gravy train.

Buzzm1
Buzzm1

Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Report 

S.744 Illegal Immigration Reform

allows 30 million immigrants in 10 years, 
allows 46 million immigrants in 20 years

Average Monthly Change in Payroll Employment
2015-2018 171,000 jobs/month (not enough to reduce unemployment)
2019-2023 75,000 jobs/month

the average worker will see a decrease in wages
of $1,500/worker/year for the next 12 years
especially low skill workers

unemployment will increase 

GDP will continue to increase, 
but the more important, GDP per capita, will decrease
(meaning that, on average, we are going to have less money to spend)

SAGEROIT44
SAGEROIT44

GAY MARRIAGE and IMMIGRATION REFORM

I have one question on immigration reform in context of the recent Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage:

Are there going to be changes in current immigration laws that will allow gay people to petition for their same-sex partners based on marriage?

Gabor49
Gabor49

Self Interest.  That is what veryone who supports this bill is after.  Labor unions looking to beef up dues with foreign workers,  Chamber of Commerce looking for low cost workers, poiliticians panddering for votes.  If you need people who lie, cheat & steal, what does that say about you as a candidate or organization.

dr_corvinus
dr_corvinus

”No Republican would vote for legislation that stifled economic growth, promoted illegal immigration, added to the welfare rolls, and failed to ensure a secure border,” write Jeb Bush and Clink Bolick in today’s Wall Street Journal“Yet they essentially will do just that if they fail to pass immigration reform.”

Actually, Jebbie has everything exactly ass-backwards. Does the Senate bill stifle economic growth? Not in aggregate, but certainly per capita, except for the 1%. Promote illegal immigration? You bet. Add to the welfare rolls? Check. Fail to ensure a secure border? With all those toothless triggers, once again, check. But for ivory-tower elites like Jebbie, up is down, black is white, and truth is falsehood.

TatianaRomanova
TatianaRomanova

Only the dumbest of the Republican Party's thinkers believe that passing immigration reform is what the party needs.  What the smartest thinkers believe is that the Party should stand with the American people and demand that the immigration laws be enforced.


The Democrats and their kowtowing to the politically active elite that just wants cheap lawn care are the idiots in this debate

LeezaLee
LeezaLee

Lie number 2: "If immigration reform fails, blame the Republican congressmen who act in their own self-interest rather than that of their party."

If immigration reform fails, blame the Republican congressmen (and women by the way) who act in the interests of their constituents. That is, after all, why we put them there in the first place.



LeezaLee
LeezaLee

Lie number one: "Mitt Romney‘s loss in November may have proven that Republicans need to better communicate with and cater to Hispanics to win the White House,"

Mitt Romney's loss in November proves that Republicans need to better communicate with and cater to REPUBLICANS and Independents so that they don't stay home -- by the millions -- on election day.



DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

THE JOKE IS ON THE JOBLESS AMERICANS?

Look what has manifested in the last two decades, since the illegal alien invasion. Perhaps I should say since the failure of the 1986 Immigration Reform & Control Act (IRCA) was enacted. 27 years ago 3 million mostly Guest workers receive Amnesty. Let’s see now- deliberate failure to prosecute employers who hire illegal aliens, which became a huge magnet for more to cross the borders or fly here as a visitor who overstays their visas with no intention in returning home. Then there is the growth of hundreds of Sanctuary Cities, which should have been closed down years ago? The sponsorship of family members adding to the welfare rolls, when the original sponsor doesn’t support them anymore. The unresponsive law that must be contained of Birthright Citizenship, originally as written for the descendants of slaves, that is inclusive of illegal alien mothers, who are aware they are not going to be deported and that the birth of numerous babies once here can supplement the parents income. Because of complete neglect of the IRCA law, we now have over 11 million foreign nationals or even more. There have several amendments to the law, including the 2006 Secure Fence Act, but again was short changed and the 700 miles were never built. That was a double layer fence parallel to each other, making it extremely hard to cross into America without detection. Favoritism and lucrative donors who buy contracts, when the SONIC BARRIER SENSOR puts all other people and air traffic sensors to shame? Most of the border it still remains an enigma, because the drugs and human traffic is still getting past agents. If Congress had been serious about stemming the flow of welfare aliens, criminals and even terrorists impersonating people from South of the border, the fence would have already been visible.

The G8 and its accomplices of mixed senators from the GOP are adamant the bill will secure our borders, that interior will be carried out with the electronic E-Verify, it’s still on hold? THE SENATE IS ATTEMPTING TO LEGALIZE THE 11 MILLION PLUS FIRST, BEFORE THE FIRST 350 MILES OF DOUBLE LAYER FENCING IS BUILT. DON’T BE MISLEAD DOUBLE FENCING DOESN’T EXIST OUTSIDE THE AREAS OF THE BIG CITIES? Then there's a clause (AS ALWAYS) in it that says Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, a liberal appointee lackey of the White House doesn't have to follow all the way through with border security measure. Its all “smoke and mirrors as typical”? This woman whether from influence from inside the Department of Justice, has not enforced deporting illegal aliens now, including criminals—so do you think she has going to enforce laws now? This women has defied the oversight committees with a smirk on her features, stating the border is “Secure”? She should be a standup comic, except the Border Patrol would say it not funny.

Placing 20.000 more agents on the border doesn’t do anything for the internal enforcement?Chris Crain, President of the ICE union (Internal Enforcement) was completely ignored in the Senate bill for interior ground agents and equipment. The Justice Department is already being sued by ICE, and now the U.S. Border Patrol agents are also taking the Obama administration for not being allowed to carry out the law. Chris Crain stated today that 40 percent of foreign nationals do not arrive through borders; they arrive by plane and so without any ENTRY/ EXIT verification system at ports of entry, they remain undetected, settling here after their visa has expired. Unlike border entries who when caught are fingerprinted, those who come here hand over a flimsy card, of where they are supposed to be staying as a visitor, but of course abscond. With only 5.000 ICE agents for the whole country has no means to follow up. Yet the Senate has done nothing about the limited enforcement and instead is recruiting 20.000 Border Patrol agents, when half of that number or even more should work inside the United States. Even the E-Verify has its limitations and should be replaced by a biometric Nationwide ID card for citizens, than spending for $48 Billion dollars on just the border region. It could be used for job opportunities, voter fraud and stop credit theft.

 

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

Grimes: Illegal Aliens and 50% of Americans that do not pay Income Taxes Exempted From ObamaCare

By Stephen Frank on 06/30/2013, California News & Views 

ObamaCare, according to Barack, will cover all Americans.  He never said all Americans are going to pay for it.  Instead, the 50% of Americans that do not file income taxes will not pay, but get free health care.  Clinics that give health care to the 11 million illegal aliens will continue to give them “free” health care, with the 50% that do pay taxes, paying for it.  No wonder the cost of individual health care in California is going up, up to 146% or in Ohio by 88%?  Free cost those who work and productive—the half of society that lives off the productive will now get an even better deal—and illegal aliens will be crazy to accept amnesty, it does not pencil out.

Are we crazy to work?

“According to the IRS, “Certain individuals who are not required to file an income tax return but who technically fall outside the statutory exemption for those with household income below the filing threshold.”

“HHS regulations also provide that the hardship exemption will be available on a case-by-case basis for individuals who face other unexpected personal or financial circumstances that prevent them from obtaining coverage.”

YOU CAN ALSO BLAST FAXES AT numbersusaand write your own message or copy the one exhibited.At americanpatrol is a daily report from newspapers across the country, illustrating the huge rise in drunk drivers, and other heinous crimes the left oriented press keeps suppressed. For legal information about corruption in Washington and in state assemblies at judicialwatchAlso Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas has set up an email address for people to contact if they believe they were targeted by the IRS. That address is: IRSTarget@Cruz.Senate.gov. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas has launched a national petition. It is at SecureBordersNow,” Cruz said. “In just a week, we’ve have reached 150,000 people from all over the country sign that petition speaking out to say ‘Do not do legalization first. Secure the borders first, fix the problem.”?

eagle11772
eagle11772

I will support "Immigration Reform" ONLY if: 1. An EFFECTIVE barrier is built on U.S. borders that actually PREVENTS ILLEGAL entry by foreign nationals into the U.S..  ALL people who are presently in the U.S. ILLEGALLY, are, BY DEFINITION....  CRIMINALS ! and therefore should be repatriated to their respective countries immediately.  Once we take care of those 2 things, I will support "Immigration Reform".  Until, then I will not, and I will let all my elected representatives know that.  WHY are Libs and Dems SO MUCH IN FAVOR of promoting & excusing CRIMINALITY BY FOREIGN NATIONALS IN THE U.S. ?  Why ?

MrObvious
MrObvious

 But at a local level, the party’s lawmakers aren’t necessarily motivated by the same concerns.


When you gerrymander districts, sure. But what happens when the demographic in those district changes? Ops - now it's suddenly a blue district.


GOP is engaging in short term thinking for the benefit of their tribe while the bigger picture, the presidency is lost to them for decades. And eventually also the congress.

outsider
outsider

 No matter how strong his argument, Bush will have a hard time winning over House Republicans by making an analytical case. If immigration reform fails, blame the Republican congressmen who act in their own self-interest rather than that of their party.


How is this different from anything else they do?

cent-fan
cent-fan

Self interest?  In politics?  Pull the other one...

RustyJones
RustyJones

@Buzzm1 Great analysis - it's so sad to see Time not see that it's only special interests (the immigrant lobby and the US Chamber) pushing for immigration reform. 

Moxie!
Moxie!

@SAGEROIT44  - USCIS has already announced that it will now accept immigrant visa petitions and marriage-based green card applications filed by same-sex married couples in light of the Supreme Court's decision on DOMA.  And the State Department has announced that it will be working quickly to implement the decision as well, which means that same-sex spouses should also be able to apply for temporary nonimmigrant visas as well as immigrant visas in the near future.

jmac
jmac

@Gabor49 Labor unions are not beefing up dues for foreign workers.   Labor unions are saying if you're going to hire them you have to pay them a decent wage, so an American can also take the job for a decent wage.  Otherwise, Americans aren't going to have ANY jobs left - corporations can just hire foreigners for every job for a cheap wage.  They're already pushing for foreigners for high end jobs now.  

We could just pay an American.   

JesseJames
JesseJames

@eagle11772 They need the votes.  Their stance on abortion has essentially precluded the white liberal vote to nothing.  Demographics is destiny.  If you are not having babies, you are not having a country in a hundred years.  


Essentially, at least as far as I have read is that Hispanics tend to agree with almost everything the Democrats are for right now.  So, they don't care how they get here; boat, train, legal, or illegal.  They just say "GET HERE!" and they will ensure they get all the freebies they want.


The problem is this, it is not that most Americans have any racist problem with Latinos, just that they don't have any intention of staying here.  Esentially, they come here, work, save, have babies, and then set up a "carrier family" that is acts like a half-way house for them to take turns working in the states.


The American Taxpayer has paid with their children's lives in war, with their money in the Great Bailout AKA "Great Depression" and the current myriad of healthcare that a totally inept and corrupt fiscal agency is set to murder in its administration of said healthcare (Read IRS scandal and Obamacare).


If you want to undermine a neighboring country, you could attack it militarily, culturally, or in our case, just sit back while we sell scalped tickets to citizen ship so we can please you in our bid to entertain by self-destruct.

PulSamsaraXi
PulSamsaraXi

@MrObvious  I don't know... you may just see a pendulum swing again.  I'm certainly feeling almost as alienated by Democratic politics lately as I've always felt for GOP politics.   Tired... and very very strongly considering what my forebears considered... and then did.

PulSamsaraXi
PulSamsaraXi

@JesseJames @eagle11772   good points.  The only real Fence is 3 fold"

- Biometric E-verify.

- Jail for offending employers.

- Cut off the social services gravy train.