Morning Must Reads: June 21

In the news: the "border surge" amendment, NSA, farm bill failure, Supreme Court, and Heat.

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • An amendment doubling the number of patrol agents on the US-Mexico border boosts the chances of the Senate’s immigration reform bill
    • Inside the White House’s stealth campaign to support the immigration bill. (Not so stealth now is it?)
    • Sen. Marco Rubio talks about the politics of immigration reform with the Washington Examiner
  • The National Security Agency may keep the e-mails and telephone calls of citizens and legal residents if the communications contain “significant foreign intelligence” or evidence of a crime
  • How the House farm bill failed
  • Why now, Ben Bernake?
  • Taliban talks could depend on Gitmo detainees
  • There’s a Republican-led state drive to replace tough-on-crime dictums of the 1990s with a more forgiving and nuanced set of laws
  • George Will: Obama hits wall in Berlin
  • How many golf balls can you fit into an airplane? How many gas stations in Manhattan? Google finds their brainteaser interview questions a “complete waste of time.”
  • Next week, the Supreme Court will decide two landmark cases concerning same-sex marriage. The New Yorker provides a useful interactive map exploring the possible results.
  • The Heat repeat
1059 comments
fitty_three
fitty_three

@paulejb

Your belief:

"The failure of public education in the black community coupled with a culture if victimization propounded byracial arsonists such as Al and Jesse.

Now, for the definition of racism:

rac·ism  (rszm)

n.1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

racist adj. & n.

You've stated that this is your belief.

Now, @paulejb, tell me that "a culture if victimization"is NOTa "human character or ability"

Now, @paulejb, tell me that "the black community"does NOTa reference to race.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@paulejb

In response to my question:

"Care to expound on why 97% of black Americans won't touch the GOP?"

You wrote this:

"The failure of public education in the black community coupled with a culture if victimization propounded by racial arsonists such as Al and Jesse.

Any other questions, 53?"

Most certainly yes, @paulejb, I do have a question. Several questions:

1. Explain what you mean by "culture of victimization"

2. Explain how you know this

[crocodile smile - we're getting close]

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

Not judging but is this really the way to spend a summer Saturday afternoon?

Back to the steamy sun for me. 

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh Don't know if Stern will OK the deal.  Would be good for the Clippers.  Del Negro wasn't aggressive enough at times.  Always tried to sit on a lead and run out the clock; lost several games doing that.  They need another power forward/center, not Garnett.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

The NBA commisioner can go to hedubblehockeysticks.

Oh, wait, belay that!  Even euphemistically he doesn't need to be anywhere near hockey, because Seattle wants a hockey team and he hates Seattle.

He can go to Hell instead.  They can't play hockey there.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I wonder if, by now, he realizes that maybe he shouldn't have done this.

fitty_three
fitty_three

So just for the record, and by every defintion, @paulejb, in my best Maury Povitch voice:

@paulejb, you ARE a racist.

fitty_three
fitty_three

Do you see the wall I'm about to walk you into, @paulejb ?

Fair warning: You've already gone there. I'll be more than happy to wait for your response.

roknsteve
roknsteve

@sacredh Snowden stinks like a pig farm.  We'll see how his luck lasts.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

My opinion of him keeps dropping.  Now he's running for safety, turning to those who would harm us, intelligence-wise, in order to save his own skin.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@Paul,nnto Good point Paul. I'll actually be out of town Monday-Thursday of next week at the CiscoLive conference in Orlando and so am trying to get my shots in while I can.

paulejb
paulejb

@Paul,nnto 

When you are right, YOU ARE RIGHT, Paul! I'm outa here. Adios, Swamplanders.

sacredh
sacredh

I doubt if he anticipated quite this much backlash.

sacredh
sacredh

No, they do not. I think a "True Patriot" would face the music. This guy commited treason and ran with his tail between his legs. He is the worst kind of coward.

sacredh
sacredh

The two words I think of when I think of him are traitor and treason. I know many people here in swampland disagree with my stand on the death penalty, but this guy needs to fry.



fitty_three
fitty_three

@kbanginmotown 

This is possibly true, kbanger, but we have a situation that is a bit different:

1. Our government is not particularly hostile to the people. Back in the Civil Rights era, that was decidedly not true.

2. Obama is successful at anti-terrorism and I feel that his oversight of the NSA is adequate.

3. Yes, it is questionable, but the alternative is more terrorism. 

4. I think that it's likely that every administration is progressively worse the farther back in the past you go.

Many grey areas, Kbanger.  I know that, I just think that Obama, unlike what the GOP thinks, is not bent on being a dictator.

Also, I'm far, FAR more worried about commercial data collection.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@fitty_three @sacredh Who's to say what the consequences are before you take action to defy an unjust social norm or an unconstitutional government program? 

49 years ago last Friday, Michael Schwerner, James Chaney and Andy Goodman were murdered  for trying to register blacks to vote. In Mississippi. 100 years after the Civil War. 9 years after Rosa Parks was arrested. They were not the first civil rights' casualties, they were not the last. 

Snowden, too, is hopefully not the last person who will speak out about government excesses...

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

I agree. We have to continue this. 

Because the option of not doing it might be far worse.

And, I might point out, Obama has been pretty darn successful at fighting terrorism!

sacredh
sacredh

He's either going to spend a life in hiding or in exile. AND...it's not going to change anything.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

He's thrown his whole life away. Some netizens are well intentioned, as he may have been, but I thing he focused on only one aspect of this without giving a second thought to the consequences of his actions.

I would have had much more respect for him had he done like Boris Yeltsin standing in front the tank in the years leading up to the collapse of the Soviet Empire, or the guy who did a similar thing in Tienanmen Square.

If you truly believe in what you're doing, do like the Selma people did in fighting for black Americans' right to vote.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

I didn't know that you considered the writers of the definition to be idiots:

Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2013. 

I just copied and pasted it there. And, you're a racist, by the very definition, @ahandout


fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout 

Wear the shoes, @ahandout  

It's all there, black and white, your beliefs, and the definition of racism together.

You're a racist, by the very definition of racism, @ahandout 

fitty_three
fitty_three

I can see it:

"Oh Sacred, Ye of the Golden Calf, grant me a larger dong!"

8>poof!<8

"Wow! Not that long!  What will I do with it?"

Go forth and water thy lawn

sacredh
sacredh

"Sacred decides. He is God. Worship him"

That's eerie. I was just thinking that. If anybody ever dies and makes me God....we're in for some interesting times.

sacredh
sacredh

"Who decides who "deserve to die"?"

As I've said many times, I personally think I'd be unfit to serve in any capacity in any office or position of authority because I lack the ability to be fair or even completely reasonable. I offer only my opinions. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Paul,nnto  

A little Sunday levity into the mix:

Sacred decides.  He is God. Worship him.

Or else....

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh  Who decides who "deserve to die"? 

The House? 

The Senate? 

The state of Texas? 

You?

sacredh
sacredh

It's the system we have. I'm not comfortable with it any more than I'm comfortable with many other things but I don't know what a viable alternative would be. No pun intended, but I don't think that life is sacred. Some people deserve to die.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh And still you are comfortable with giving it the ultimate power? Legalized taking of life? 

I'm far too cynical to cede that to any political entity. 

sacredh
sacredh

I trust the state about as far as I can throw my truck. I also think the sh!t hit the fan a long time ago and we're just not aware of it yet. I think corporations are just as bad (if not worse) than the state and that they probably have just as much information on us.

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@sacredh I tend to agree with the two words you use to describe him and certainly disagree with your remedy. 


sacredh
sacredh

I'm back and I got all my work done. I can barely move.