Morning Must Reads: June 12

In the news: immigration reform, Snowden reaction, farm bill, retirement, Iran, Zuckerberg, and the first Spanish Senate floor speech.

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

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fitty_three
fitty_three

If low poll numbers are proof of lying as @ahandout contends, then what of @paulejb's like/post ratio of 0.12?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

I've noted that you are focusing on those that most resemble you in your attitude toward race. Let me point out something, bigot:

Whether you like it or not, we are a fact. You, and your ilk, together with your beliefs, will e eventually die. Your epitaph will be the trappings of hate only seen in obscure, grainy photos. My sorrow goes to your kids because they will emerge from under you like the children of David Jordan's cult - unable to function in real society because you've bequeathed them a deadly handicap.

You are a dinosaur @ahandout. 

Hope you don't mind if I give a little twist of my heel as I follow my wife and kids on their walk over your grave.  

Hell, I might stop to pee.


sacredh
sacredh

Well, it's starting to storm here and we have a tornado watch out until 1 am. I think I'll go to bed and watch Oz: The Great and Powerful.

fitty_three
fitty_three

Reply to sacred, but I missed somehow.

fitty_three
fitty_three

100% agreement. The beast screams loudest in the moments before death.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

The entire board for Alberta Health Services has been fired by the Alberta government.  Reason: the board refused to rescind their decision to pay them and other senior executives performance bonuses amounting to 3.2 million over 99 individuals.  There will be no severance pay.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

 Lets look at Corporate Corruption and the Iraq War:

Iraq-related Death

-- David Kelly, who was a British microbiologist and a Weapons Expert on WMDs, was found dead with his left wrist slit on July 18th, 2003. He was unmasked as the source of a BBC story that claimed the British government had "sexed up" a dossier on Iraq's WMD to justify UK’s, and thereby US’, illegal invasion of Iraq.

Key Points Raised: a) Thames Valley Police disclosed thatno fingerprints were found on the blunt knife Dr. Kelly allegedly used to kill himself. b) The “self-inflicted cut” on the wrist was unusual – the ulnar artery severed but not the radial artery. c) Independent doctors pointed out the discrepancies in the post-mortem examination results.

Corporate-related Corruption

--J. Clifford Baxter, who was vice chairman of Enron Corp., was found dead, shot in the head, on January 25, 2002.  In one of the largest corporate fraud cases in U.S. history, Baxter was a key witness to testify before the House Energy and Commerce Committee about Enron’s illegal activities that might implicate the involvement of the Bush Administration at the highest level. Enron was the largest campaign contributor for George W. Bush.

Key Points Raised: a) Multimillionaire Baxter supposedly used a ‘perfect murder weapon’ to kill himself. A rat shot gun - this kind of ammunition cannot be easily traced back to the gun that fired it. b) Baxter talked about “needing a bodyguard" just days before his body was found in a car, according to an unnamed associate in the New York Times (ENRON'S MANY STRANDS: AN EXECUTIVE'S DEATH; Critic Who Quit Top Enron Post Is Found Dead

*James Daniel Watkins, a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron, also committed “suicide” with a gunshot wound to the head. His body was found on December 1, 2001, about a month before Baxter’s death.  Kenneth Lay, Enron Corp. founder, was convicted of fraud and conspiracy. He died of a “heart attack” on July 5, 2006, 3 months before he was to begin his life sentence in prison. His body cremated and the ashes buried in an undisclosed location.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

 Lets move on to people who died under mysterious circumstance surrounding Government Corruption under Bush. The list is a bit longer:


Government Corruption

-- Gary Webb, an American Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter who broke the story about the CIA's direct involvement in drug trafficking, was found dead, shot in the head, in mid-December 2004.

Key Points Raised: a) Webb was receiving death threats before his apparent “suicide”. b)There were news reports that the coroner on the scene had originally claimed Webb died of  'multiple gunshot wounds’ but later changed to ‘single gunshot wound.’

-- On May 1, 2008, Deborah Jeane Palfrey D.C. Madam”, who ran an escort agency for hiring prostitutes to serve the Washington’s elite, was found hanged in a storage shed next to her mother’s trailer in Florida. Two weeks before her death, she was found guilty of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering. Palfrey claimed that she had 10,000 to 15,000 phone numbers of clients.

Key Points Raised:a)Palfrey made repeated public statements that any "suicide" would just be a cover-story for murder.  b) Her two so-called handwritten “suicide notes” were released to the public, contradicting her on-the-record statements that she would never commit suicide.

One of her employees, Brandy Britton also committed “suicide” by hanging in January 2007, days before she was scheduled to stand trial on prostitution charges and eviction from her home.

-- Adamo Bove (Head of security at Telecom Italia) and Costas Tsalikidis (a Greek software engineer for Vodaphone) uncovered a secret bugging system installed in cell phones around the world. Both had uncovered American attempts to spy on government officials, anti-war activists, journalists and businessmen through illegal wiretapping. Both untimely deaths were ruled as suicides.

Key Points Raised: a)Vodaphone had destroyed spyware evidence in its system before Greek intelligence could conduct an examination. b) "U.S. agents" were highly suspected to be involved in the overseas eavesdropping.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

 Lets start with the people who died after attempting to blow the cover of GWB's election fraud. Since I know election fraud gets our trolls all hot and heavy

Election Fraud

-- Bush insider, Michael Connell, who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George W. Bush’s 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed in a plane crash on December 19, 2008. He planned to tell all after he was served with a subpoena to testify in court on September 22, 2008.

Key Points Raised: a) Michael Connell, who was an experienced pilot, had abandoned two flights due to sabotage of his plane two months before his fatal “accident” on a cold but calm day. b) A credible source disclosed that Connell was afraid for his life after Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife.

-- Raymond Lemme, who was an official from the Florida Inspector General’s office investigating the election rigging charges of whistleblower Clint Curtis, was found dead with his arms slashed in a motel room

Key Points Raised: a) His body was found in the motel room on July 1, 2003, but he signed a check-out receipt dated June 30, 2003, 6:54 a.m. b) The inconsistency of police report and photographs raises doubts of his apparent “suicide” that occurred not in Florida but in Georgia.

ahandout
ahandout

Barry Obama is not the kryptonite to GWB.  The left has a very painful 4 years ahead.   

ahandout
ahandout

@fitty_three  fitty, now you got yourself all worked up.  There's always been people that hate, fitty.  It's not confined to race.  The first murder was because of envy, you know like class envy.  Maybe you should check out that guy in the mirror.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

Hope things stay calm out there.  We've been hearing the news out here.

sacredh
sacredh

fitty. OT but it's in the high 80's here and humid. I cleaned out all my gutters and sweated so much that I can't get enough to drink. I just drank a half gallon of chocolate milk and I'm still thirsty.

sacredh
sacredh

Either I'm unusally perceptive today, or else I guessed that was the case becuase it was so obvious.

ahandout
ahandout

@fitty_three  I sense a slight disconnect between your statement and your link...hmmm, maybe it's the loving part.

sacredh
sacredh

Well said. The reaction to the Cherrios commercial is another example of the dying gasps of racism. Does the increase in the vitriol mean that racism is on the upswing? I don't think it does. I think that those who see their way of thinking dying out are just more vocal. I think it's also another example of the republican party swinging further and further to the right while they lose national elections that would be winnable if it weren't for groups like the Tea Party. During 2012 we saw GOP candidate after candidate keep playing to a base that wasn't big enough to win an election. They could have made a play for the middle but they didn't dare. They can't die off soon enough for me.

ahandout
ahandout

@MementoMori  CNN and MSNBC will keep you busy with stories about Jay Zee and Beyoncé.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@MementoMori 

The missing middle picture shows him aghast at the fact that POTUS is a black American.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout Heartbreaking how? Did he break a law? Does the GOP have a problem with what he is doing?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout Because guys like the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson spend millions hiring Lobbyists who live there.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@ahandout

Why would Obama be Bush's kryptonite?  I would think the media is Bush's kryptonite.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout You mean he is not the Liberal Socialist you morons claimed? Of course not he is more like a moderate Republican( At least back when that animal actually existed)

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

So I shouldn't hate a bigot like you? 

Explain to me why. You seem to be beating the drum of 'bigots are people too'.

I also spoke the truth: Your beliefs will die with you and the world will be a little better. I feel sorry for your kids though: You've given them a gift that will keep on taking

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh 

Chocolate milk to quench a thirst? All you'll get is sticky.

No. Don't. Just.....don't.

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout  Too bad Barry isn't what he promised you, mantis.  Denial will only make the realization process drag on.  Better to just RIP that band aid off now.

ahandout
ahandout

@SirDonQuixotic

@ahandout

In a Gallup tracking poll released Tuesday, former-President George W. Bush currently stands with a favorability rating of 49%, compared to 46% who see the 43rd president unfavorably. Meanwhile, another Gallup poll shows President Obama with only a 47% approval rating, with 44% disapproving.

If you think about it, this makes perfect sense.

After all, Obama fooled everyone when he ran as the anti-Bush in 2008.

Everyone thought Obama meant he would be less hawkish than his predecessor. But as we have seen, Obama apparently has no problem killing American citizens via remote control with drones or greatly expanding upon Bush's surveillance state. This, even though Obama told us he had pretty much won the War on Terror.

Therefore, it appears that what Obama meant by promising to be the anti-Bush is that, unlike George W. Bush, Obama would not get us out of a recession and into many years of economic prosperity. There would also be successful terror attacks on American soil during Obama's watch and a litany of scandals unseen in almost a half-century.

Maybe the next time a former community organizer raised in a creepy church runs for president, the media will work a little harder to dig into his real agenda.

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout  A corrupt, large, federal government that feeds off its people and protects its own interests at all costs is the definition of socialism, you dope.

fitty_three
fitty_three

ahandout

I see. So you learned you bigotry at your daddy's knee?

At least you aren't being a hypocrite by claiming your hatred is sanctioned by God.

ahandout
ahandout

@fitty_three @ahandout You don't have to love me.  But, I never sat in a church for 20 years that had a racist preaching from the pulpit.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

You keep mistaking things like that as proof of your delusions.

Polls prove lying?

How is it in the next universe over, anyways? Is Sarah Palin POTUS?

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout  That's what Bush has a more favorable rating than Obama.  You're gonna have a hard time defending Obama's lies and corruption.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout @mantisdragon91 Actually Handy he is exactly what I expected. Too bad for you the GOP is so far to the right that any thinking voter has to run the other way.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@ahandout @SirDonQuixotic 

No.  Obama's been a great President, more or less.  A lot better than McCain or Romney would have been.  The only one pouting here would be you.

ahandout
ahandout

@SirDonQuixotic @ahandout @mantisdragon91 Those of us who the live in the real world, not the imagined utopia of leftists, understand that socialism and its principles when applied lead to a corrupt, unmanageable, government that is unaccountable to anyone.  Who's going to investigate the corruption? Erik Holder?   The leftist dream is turning into a nightmare, as it always has.

Read some history of the failed socialists experiments. 

paulejb
paulejb

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout

"A HISTORIC EXPANSION OF GOVERNMENT"

"The 2009 federal spending surge is nothing short of historic.  The 25 percent spending increase represents the largest non-war government expansion since the New Deal.  Domestic discretionary spending (including stimulus funds) has been hiked more than 80 percent over 2008 levels.  As a result, Washington will run a budget deficit of 12.3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), by far the largest since World War II, says Brian M. Riedl, a researcher with the Heritage Foundation."

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17781

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout  These job losses have mostly been at the state and local level, but they are still a significant drag on overall employment.

Why do you even bother, mantis.  Your own post refutes you.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout@mantisdragon91I believe you might be the dope Handy.

A big difference between Mr. Bush's tenure in office and Mr. Obama's presidency has been public sector employment. The public sector grew during Mr. Bush's term (up 1,748,000 jobs), but the public sector has declined since Obama took office (down 718,000 jobs). These job losses have mostly been at the state and local level, but they are still a significant drag on overall employment.

 http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/04/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html

PaulDirks
PaulDirks

@SirDonQuixotic @ahandout @mantisdragon91 The confusion arises because when ah say's 'government', he actually means 'contractors. And of course the R's are the ones up to their eyeballs in 'privatization' of government functions to the detriment of the Nation.