Morning Must Reads: May 24

In the news: the War on Terror, Lois Lerner leaving, bank lobbyists writing bills, the Boy Scouts, Asia's debt binge, and the Jersey Shore.

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

  • Can Obama win the War on Terror?
  • IRS official Lois Lerner placed on administrative leave amid scandal.
    • Congressional Republicans are skeptical the IRS’s treatment of conservative groups warrants a special prosecutor, fearing that step could limit their own investigation into the agency.
    • Charles Krauthammer: “There’s a fly in my soup”
  • Bank lobbyists are aiding lawmakers in preparing legislation that softens regulations of the financial industry.
  • Boy Scouts vote to allow gay youth, 61% to 39%.
  • While the Senate “Gang” produced an immigration bill, the House will have one of its own.
  • Asia goes on a debt binge as much of the world sobers up.
  • Obama hits the Jersey Shore with Gov. Chris Christie Tuesday.
  • TIME Exclusive: Obama’s 1979 prom photos.
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ahandout
ahandout

This is the BBQ police, drop the burger and back away from the grill and no one will get hurt...

If it is against the law in New York City to sell a soda that is more than 16 oz., then can California be far behind in using AB 32 to jail you for grilling a burger?

“A UC Riverside study found that commercially cooked hamburgers cause more air pollution than diesel trucks.

The study, which focused on commercial charbroilers found in burger restaurants, said the equipment generates grease, smoke, water vapors and combustion products, which emit a large amount of particulate matter into the air.

“For comparison, an 18-wheeler diesel engine truck would have to drive 143 miles on the freeway to put out the same mass of particulates as a single charbroiled hamburger patty,” said Bill Welch, the principle engineer.

To paraphrase Michelle Obama,”McDonalds is the greatest danger to America’s national security—it is killing us.”

Did you know that people cause air pollution by grilling burgers and breathing?  When the radical s understand this will we see mass suicides to save the planet?

http://capoliticalnews.com/2012/09/20/ab-32-grill-a-burger-go-to-jail/

ahandout
ahandout

Liberal tyranny, all in the name of "protecting the public."

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - Residents of California's agricultural heartland for years have blamed their thick layer of smog on exhaust from cars and trucks in the San Francisco Bay area. Now, air regulators are proposing a solution that hits much closer to home: a ban on traditional wood-burning fireplaces.

http://burningissues.org/CAWOODBBAN02.html

ahandout
ahandout

While your were BBQing and destroying the earth, I found some quotes from your environmentalist friends to show you how crazy they are.  That last one brings a new meaning to "throw another shrimp on the Barbie."

The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state. - Kenneth Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept (as quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982)

We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion -- guilt-free at last! -- Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue

Free Enterprise really means rich people get richer. They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process . . . Capitalism is destroying the earth. -- Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists

We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects . . . We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land. -- David Foreman, Earth First!

Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed. -- Pentti Linkola

If you ask me, it'd be a little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it. We ought to be looking for energy sources that are adequate for our needs, but that won't give us the excesses of concentrated energy with which we could do mischief to the earth or to each other. -- Amory Lovins in The Mother Earth - Plowboy Interview, Nov/Dec 1977, p. 22

The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world -- John Shuttleworth

What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy. -- Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems. -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs. -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing....This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run. -- Economist editorial

We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity’s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight -- David Foreman, Earth First!

Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental. -- Dave Forman, Founder of Earth First!

If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS -- Earth First! Newsletter

Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, is not as important as a wild and healthy planets...Some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along. -- David Graber, biologist, National Park Service

The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans. -- Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. -- Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

fitty_three
fitty_three

FYI, Rusty is again trying to make a comeback under Libtards-UNITE.

Keep an eye out.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout  

<kaff kaff> Fox And Hounds Daily? </kaff kaff>

pffft.

So much for facts...

La_Randy
La_Randy

@ahandout The one with his handout conflates a study with outlawing an activity. Nothing in the link he posted is related to a law that is proposed or considered.

It might also be noted that this statement: "If it is against the law in New York City to sell a soda that is more than 16 oz." is untrue. The law was blocked by a judge.

As for the AB 32 law signed by Schwarzenegger, a republican last I checked, these are the specifics.

Don't get your underwear in a wad handout.

Tero
Tero

@ahandout 

LOL could you be anymore incoherent? Like I said;

ahandout, the troll for those who find paulie too intellectually challenging.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@ahandout As usual:

Emphasis mine.

"

Under proposed rules that would take effect next year, most wood-burning fireplaces and stoves would be banned in new homes. Masonry fireplaces would have to be permanently disabled, converted to natural gas or upgraded to expensive soot-containing models before homes could be sold.

Also, on bad air days during the winter, many Central Californians would be prohibited from lighting up their existing wood-burning stoves and fireplaces in a concerted effort to get the smoggy valley to comply with the Clean Air Act.

The San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District's plan, drafted under pressure from the Environmental Protection Agency, provoked angry reactions at a series of public hearings.

``I have a problem with you telling me I can't light my fireplace,'' Bakersfield resident Pat White said. ``You're telling me what I can and can't do in my home. That's not fair.''

But state officials say they have few alternatives.

Air regulators have tried for years to promote a voluntary no-burn program on days when weather patterns prevent the valley's skies from clearing. ``It hasn't been quite successful,'' said Janis Parker, a district spokeswoman."

The valley consistently has failed to meet the federal standard for small particle pollution, and burning wood accounts for 30 percent of the problem, releasing particles one-seventh the size of the width of a human hair that can lodge in lungs, triggering headaches, allergies and asthma.

The district, which covers 23,000 square miles from Lodi to Bakersfield, is expected to approve the proposal by next April. About 500,000 homes have stoves or fireplaces subject to the ban.

Nationwide, only traffic-congested Los Angeles has dirtier air than the San Joaquin Valley. Hemmed in by the 14,000-foot high Sierra Nevada and two other mountain ranges, the valley's bowl-like topography traps pollution blown in from the Bay area.

The district had considered a wood-burning ban a decade ago, but the ``air board has never really had the political backbone to pass some of the most needed regulations,'' said Kevin Hall, a local Sierra Club member."

Tero
Tero

@ahandout 

The bolding really helps your ignorant screed, loser. Why not go for CAPS and bolds? And underlines! Then people will take you seriously... or not.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@ahandout Of course it seems like it is the local wealthy homeowners who are complaining:

"What's really going on, it seems to me and others, is that a small contingent of wealthy residents don't want other people running around what they think of as their front yards." And it does seem maybe a little silly to worry about the health effects from fires at Dockweiler State Beach, for instance, located as it is next to an airport, refinery, and sewage treatment plant, with nary a residential neighbor."

Nothing in handout's article states the political affiliation of those involved, but you have to wonder who the real fun loving hippies are.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

"Why do liberals hate having fun?"

Someone had everyone refuse to come over for burgers and they can't fugure out why?  Maybe they need to read their posts.

Tero
Tero

@ahandout 

100% Projection.

0% Self Awareness.

Typical conservative.

notsacredh
notsacredh

"Why do liberals hate having fun?"

We don't. It's why we engage wingnuts.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@ahandout You are really off the rails today, why don't you post links to your screed's supposed facts and quotes?

ahandout
ahandout

@La_Randy  It was the law in NYC when the article was written.  The point: It was the liberal nanny Bloomberg who wanted the law, and still does.

Arnold was not a Republican, just had the R next to the name.

Those are not the specifics, just the outline.  The specifics are costing the state billions in lost revenue and the lose of businesses and jobs. 

CARB, used phony research from a guy who bought his degree online for $1000 to destroy many trucking companies in the state, costing those that stayed $70,000 per vehicle.   Money that could have gone to hiring and growing the economy.

ahandout
ahandout

@Tero @ahandout  Because you can't read or comprehend, I will spell it out for you.  AB 32 is California's idiotic global warming initiative, passed by the liberals under the guise of saving the planet.  What it really does is allow an unelected government agency to tax, ban and control human activities.  It's the liberal's idea of how to reach Utopia. 

fitty_three
fitty_three

@Tero

I'm opting for not, Tero.

There is no way in pluperfect hell that @ahandout can put lipstick on his pet pigs.

ahandout
ahandout

@Tero @ahandout  You make my point with your silly comment.  You should propose a ban on BOLD.

ahandout
ahandout

@Tero @ahandout  Just admit, you support banning things that other people like to do.

How's that self awareness working out for you?

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh  My friend, I live in California.  Liberals are the wingnuts.  The insanity of liberalism knows no bounds.

notsacredh
notsacredh

Indiana is a solidly red state. She is more popular than flesh eating bacteria though.

ahandout
ahandout

@La_Randy @ahandout   OK La la, I am typing S L O W L Y.  The referenced article was written during the time that the law was scheduled to go into effect.  Comprendo?

ahandout
ahandout

@La_Randy @ahandout "The law never went into effect."

Only through a heroic ruling from a soda loving judge were the Big Gulps saved from the tranny of liberal oppression.  Meanwhile, the wheels of the progressives grind "Forward."

La_Randy
La_Randy

@ahandout @La_Randy The law never went into effect.

Can't disavow Arnold now, republican through and through.

The least you can do is not be disingenuous and provide links that prove your assertions.

On the other hand, never mine, you provide a valuable service in obvious disinformation easily disproven.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@ahandout

You still haven't explained how they're unelected.  They were created by an elected body, hired under the watch of elected officials, managed by elected officials, so you have two options: either they're "elected" in the sense that they were duly created under a fully elected government or them being unelected isn't a problem because 99.99% of people working for the government aren't elected - just due to the reality of how impossible it is to elect every individual person in government.

Now, if your argument is that they're incompetent, that's another discussion entirely.

ahandout
ahandout

@forgottenlord @ahandout  No, you don't understand me.  The government is not capable of doing anything right.  It is very good at screwing up things.  In the case of CARB in California, CARB knowingly used fake research to force trucking companies to spend $70,000 per truck.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@ahandout

Oh.....because you believe the hundred or so people who are actually voted for are capable of doing everything so therefore all other people working for the government and technically reporting (indirectly) to the Governor are unelected and therefore should have no say (just like the personal staff of said Governor and all State legislators).  I think I understand you.

ahandout
ahandout

@forgottenlord @ahandout California Air Resources Board is an agency, like the IRS is and agency.  Both unelected and used by liberals to harass and destroy.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@ahandout

Anything @ahandout says isn't "relative".

[using @ahandout's "learned" use of the word]

ahandout
ahandout

@ARTRaveler  LOL.  You and the hive don't listen anyway.  But, I enjoy a good buzzzzzz.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

As a general rule, anyone who writes in CAPS is wasting their time because most of us won't bother to read it at all.  Saying stupid things superloud doesn't make them less stupid.

notsacredh
notsacredh

ahandout, several years ago my son's biological father wanted to give my son a motorcycle. This was just after his father had a near fatal accident on a motorcycle. I vetoed the idea. His father told me that his son was over 18, legally an adult and didn't need my permission to own a motorcycle. My son repeated this to me. I told him to pack his bags and get out. He decided against accepting the motorcycle.

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh  I wouldn't put either head in that much danger.

I used to ride.  Never much for street riding.  I don't care what kind of brain bucket you put your head into, if you hit steel going at any serious rate of speed, all the helmet will do is hold the contents for the coroner.

Perhaps a helmet should be required for everyday living. 

 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6022a1.htm

"In 2008, approximately 21.8 million persons aged ≥15 years sustained nonfatal, unintentional injuries (1), resulting in approximately $67.3 billion in lifetime medical costs (2). Information about where injuries occur is limited, but bathrooms commonly are believed to be a particularly hazardous location"

notsacredh
notsacredh

The law doesn't apply to oral sex. Kind of related...Ohio has a helmet law for riding motorcycles. In both instances, a head requires a cover when danger is involved.

ahandout
ahandout

@sacredh  The only attempt to control sex is from the liberals in LA who want the porn industry to use condoms or face fines.

notsacredh
notsacredh

I am going to have a serious talk with anybody that even attempts to ban oral sex.

ARTRaveler
ARTRaveler

Well, we made youi sell your 1951 Plymouth because it polluted like your grill does.  See any connection?

notsacredh
notsacredh

I live in Ohio. Conservatives reign here. If God didn't sayit, it didn't happen.