Morning Must Reads: May 17

In the news: IRS, Syria, House Republicans, Sen. Menendez, and Michele Bachmann

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The early morning sun rises behind the US Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

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forgottenlord
forgottenlord

CNN Poll: Obama holding stead in wake of scandals

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/19/have-new-controversies-hurt-obama-has-gop-overreacted/?hpt=hp_t1

Also in the poll: while majorities take all three scandals seriously, they also recognize that Obama had nothing to do with the IRS or the AP scandals.  They also recognize that the talking points represented the best knowledge available at the time with the only negative being that they feel Benghazi could've been prevented.

MrObvious
MrObvious

The problem with GOPs eagerness to concoct all kind of hysterical conspiracies around these 'scandals' is that the economy is doing so much better.

Folk tend to act a little bit less irrational when things look better. Let them holler. Eventually people tunes them out and kicks dirt over their howling fist shaking. Begone.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Downthread Fitty posted a pic relating to the 59th anniversary of Brown vs. Topeka Board of Ed., basically baiting trolls to say this was not a good thing. 

This is an obvious violation of the Rules of Troll Club.  Nonetheless, it was a very important distinction to make.  Trolls argue that "teh blacks" have received more governmental favor over the years than the Caucasian race--affirmative action and all that.  But to say that desegregation was somehow not a positive step for the nation--i.e., separate but equal should remain the law of the land--is beyond ludicrous.  (See the discussion with a younger poster further downthread--who never experienced racism firsthand--as an example.)  

Look at the problems European nations have dealing with racism to this day.  The US has a sordid racist history, but I say thanks to the Civil Rights movement we've probably surpassed other countries in learning that we all indeed CAN get along (thx Rodney). 

Racism cannot survive on its own--it has to be taught.



nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Dow smashes 15,000 level.  This must not be good news for Obama.

Sue_N
Sue_N

This is from a Republican website, gopisforme.com, which bills itself as "auxiliary of the Republican Party of Texas, an Hispanic initiative." Again, from a Republican website.

Ted Cruz's actions are poisoning the waters among Hispanics.

I can't stress that enough. Texas. Republican. website.

Why does Ted Cruz oppose citizenship for those living here illegally, yet support the Cuban Adjustment Act, which grants citizenship to Cubans for the same residency issues? It makes no sense, and his actions are poisoning the waters among Hispanics in Texas which are 80 percent Mexican.

These people really seem to prefer Rubio over homeboy Cruz. That's gotta hurt.

sacredh
sacredh

Factoring in the near universal republican disdain for anything that Obama/democrats do, I'd say the republicans are pretty much just playing to each other. Again.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@forgottenlord It is heartening to see that despite msm complicity on many news fronts that the American people can recognize partisan propaganda when they see it.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

Also mentioned: Obama holding reflects Gallup's numbers

sacredh
sacredh

From the article:

"There are really two concerns with regards to the IRS story. One is they have admitted now that they did target conservative groups for extra scrutiny as those groups were looking to find a tax-except status,” Romney said. “That obviously is a violation of the very fundamental trust that we have that the IRS does not pursue a political agenda.

Says the man that hides money in offshore accounts and Switzerland.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@sacredh I posted this down thread but it may need to be reposted:

Erik Loomis:

"Our Freedom Just Got Smarter"

"If there’s one thing this country needs, it’s “smart” rifles that almost never miss no matter how inexperienced the shooter. I know that the first time some crazy person takes one of these onto a college campus or into an elementary school, our national freedoms will be expressed onto the bodies of students and teachers in an extra bloody and horrifying way."

This is the next generation of American civilian killing armaments.

fitty_three
fitty_three

paulejb showing his ignorance of the black community once again.

racist much, @paulejb? 

fitty_three
fitty_three

TC - violation - Guilty, but paulejb bit.

I did not, however post a pic.  

However, downthread, a bit late, in response to @forgottenlord, the "younger poster" you referred to, is a very cogent discussion of what kind of racism we have here, possible causes, but no offers of solution.

sacredh
sacredh

Hasn't the DOW been above 15k for a couple of weeks?

sacredh
sacredh

La_Randy, one of our biggest problems is that our technological advancements are far outpacing our sociological development. Our machines are getting smarter and our people are getting dumber. We might as well try to enjoy the ride. It isn't going to end well.

sacredh
sacredh

It's working like a charm. I had $350 in OT on the check I got yesterday and should have at least $700 in OT on my next check.

sacredh
sacredh

His rod and his staff shall comfort you.

sacredh
sacredh

Speaking of the b word, I got it coming and going when I went in to work last night and when I got relieved this morning. I worked a few 12 hour days recently and did a bunch of extra work just so that I could stay awake. The guys running the other shifts got on my case for making them look bad. Lordy, Lordy. I hadn't cursed so much since I was 40. Instead of "goodnight and have a nice day", It was FY and the finger. Kind of fun though.

sacredh
sacredh

Heigh ho, heigh ho, it's off to work I go. Just another socialist unraveling the fabric of society.

sacredh
sacredh

retirevet, we have one guy that has to work doubles the day before and on Memorial Day. Memorial Day was already a double time day. He gets 4 days' pay for 16 hours. A couple of us decided to let him have the OT because he could use the money. Yes, it's costing them more. Way to save money.




retiredvet
retiredvet

So, the sequester is costing the government MORE?

sacredh
sacredh

fitty, I cancelled my vacation in April and I also cancelled my vacation for next month. I have 4 weeks to take starting in October. I also have a time off award to take and three other days I need to take before the end of the year. After I finish my midnights next Thursday. I go out that Friday night for another full day of OT. The money is great, but I don't have time to spend it.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh

I've had so much work I've had to put off my vacation until later and we've hired an hourly employee for me to boss around, too!

That still leaves me at 50 to 70 hours / week.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@paulejb@mantisdragon91@fitty_three 

No one doubted a demonstration Every version of the talking points–which were first crafted by the CIA–asserted that a demonstration had occurred at the U.S. compound in Benghazi. “We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault” on the U.S. facilities, read the talking points. (Those facilities included a State Department post and a nearby CIA annex.) Throughout two days of exchanges that involved the CIA, FBI, State Department, and White House, no one ever challenged that claim, and that language survived to the end, even as many other phrases were deleted. It’s worth remembering that demonstrations against a notorious anti-Islamic amateur film actually had occurred in 20 other countries, a likely source of the early confusion. That undercuts the charge that the Obama administration ginned up a narrative about a nonexistent demonstration in Benghazi for political purposes–namely, to avoid explaining why al Qaeda-affiliated radicals were killing Americans in a country where the president had intervened militarily with apparent success. It is true that the final talking points were stripped of references to al Qaeda. But there may have been a reason for that. Early in the process, on the afternoon of Friday, September 14, the CIA’s general counsel warned colleagues about “express instruction” from law enforcement officials that “in light of the criminal investigation, we are not to generate statements about who did this.”


Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/16/three-lessons-from-the-benghazi-emails/#ixzz2Tb3CORf2

paulejb
paulejb

@mantisdragon91 @fitty_three

"There were no riots or protests the night of 9/11 as a result of the video."

There were none in Benghazi, Bugs. That was a straight out terrorist attack targeting the US Ambassador.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@mantisdragon91

And of course, no one heard of it, either.  They've taken historical revisionism to new heights.

sacredh
sacredh

"And I was being the atheist!"

If you go to church and Believe, you're not a good one. 

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Watch how you use that rod!  It's not an IUD.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@sacredh  

Is there something in your choice of words like "generous tip" and "happy ending"?

sacredh
sacredh

Well.....I do insist on the patdown and always leave a generous tip if it has a happy ending.



mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@sacredh Are you propositioning men in airports while denying gay rights? If not you are only a partial republican.

sacredh
sacredh

I'm taking quotes from the Bible out of context. I'm a republican now.