Michael Crowley on Benghazi

"I just don't see any scandal there."

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TIME’s Michael Crowley stopped by Hardball last night to discuss the historical significance of the White House’s response to the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi.

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reallife
reallife

hahahaha   chris matthews   LOL  is this your idea of a serious a tv program?


LOL


ahandout
ahandout

Faced with at least three scandals Obama tries to change the subject:

“We’ve got to stay focused on our economy and putting people back to work and raising wages and bringing manufacturing back to the United States of America…That has to be what we’re thinking about every single day…Others may get distracted by chasing every fleeting issue that passes by…But the middle class will always be my No. 1 focus. Period. Your jobs, your families and your communities.”

If you believe that Barry's focus is the middle class you are a fool. 

But really, where is there any evidence that Barry thinks about anything but Barry everyday?  Golf, basketball, vacation and feeding his emense narrcisism.  Jobs, family, oh and bringing manufacturing back, I guess he had Rahm (NAFTA) Emannuel working on that for him.  I guarantee, that Barry IS NOT thinking about any of those things. 

carotexas
carotexas

The President waits until the the feeding frenzy has reached peak on all issues then takes  care pf them in one swoop. 


MichaelStephenson1
MichaelStephenson1

When an adversary in a debate changes the subject, he is tacitly acknowledging weakness. If the topic is Obama and your opponent invokes Bush... if you're discussing Islamic terror and you hear about the Crusades... bingo! you're winning.


More to the point, Democrat typists at the Washington Post and Time and NYT etc have focused at least as much on Republican reaction as on all the recent government deceit and overreach. I have yet to see any of the usual super-serviceables pass this meme up. 

The Democrats are losing the day and the week and they all know it. Consequently, we're going to hear a lot about the black-hearted vindictiveness of every living Republican. If you don't already know a handful of synonyms for schadenfreude, you will soon enough.

One thing you won't hear is a calmly recited timeline of Benghazi events. That won't be allowed. Any self-respecting Democrat operative would paint his face black and sing "Mammy" on the spot to disrupt such a thing.

I wonder how long the Democrats can hide from the discussion something the average farmer and his wife know intuitively: you don't need any talking points to tell the truth, let alone a dozen different versions.

MichaelStephenson1
MichaelStephenson1

To my Democrat Friends:   Do yourselves a favor... Don't pay much attention to the opinionistas trying to minimize the recent damage to the Obama administration. If you let them get your hopes up they will only disappoint you in the end. Go ahead and brace for more unseemly revelations. It's going to be bad.

The media are the reason you convinced yourselves that Obama was a good guy in the first place. They told anyone who'd listen he was a new kind of politician, a high-character intellectual who would exorcise racial demons and bring Americans together. That was never remotely true. Clinton Eastwood was right: Obama is one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the American electorate.

Hope this helps... the schadenfreudist half of me would prefer you let yourselves get led down the garden path and fall all the harder when all the nasty is made plain.



mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Ok, yes, I'll admit it. I'm enjoying the Republicans being exposed as liars. Again. Even better, I'm hoping the media is on to them, too.

Earlier today, CBS News reported that at least two of the Benghazi e-mails that were leaked by Republicans last Friday were altered. The GOP leak of the altered Benghazi e-mails came five days before the White House released 100 pages of e-mail correspondence regarding the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

One of the altered e-mails was from Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes. The other altered e-mail was from U.S. State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

http://recall-all-republicans.tumblr.com/post/50632445384/odinsblog-earlier-today-cbs-news-reported



fitty_three
fitty_three

paulejb's sources like hotair.com are telling.

The fact that right wingers choose to believe hotair.com over all other news outlets is also telling.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@ahandout More importantly where is there any evidence of the GOP's promise of having a laser like focus on Jobs? 37 hearings on repealing Obamacare and not one bill to improve the well being or job prospects of the US worker.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelStephenson1 Paint his face and sing "Mammy"? Will they do a "Shuck and Jive " as well? Where do you conspiracy racists come from and can you please stay there?

drudown
drudown

@MichaelStephenson1 

That's one skewed rendition of reality.

Let me place a more plausible version on the tips of readers' eyelashes.

Contrary to the incessant barrage of GOP conditioning that you have ostensibly internalized, nothing exists in the vacuum that you and the GOP would prefer to believe. Even when History unequivocally shows the folly in the GOP policy...incredibly, there is a conspicuous and inexplicable refusal to take ownership of cause and effect. So, despite your best efforts to preemptively "defang the cobra" with such shopworn nonsense as "invoking Bush" somehow shows "weakness". As a threshold matter, you naively presuppose it makes any difference whether it is Reagan, Bush or, say, Rubio as President. It doesn't. The reason why the GOP lavishes praise on Reagan is simple: he is the first of the "figurehead" Presidents. So, to be fair, whether its Romney or Rubio, the GOP has inculcated a "lock-step" mentality that completely precludes any subjective decision making, much less "leadership". What, the GOP leaders have to sign a "pledge" to a LOBBYIST (Norvquist) and shared a "vow" to obstruct ANY agenda of incoming President Obama...and you and your brethren have the audacity to question the integrity of the Obama Administration for ensuring the integrity of National Security by proper use of subpoena power? I suppose as you stir illusory "scandals" your selective memory purposefully omits the FACT the last GOP Administration VIOLATED the Bill of Rights via warrantless wiretaps? 

That's the biggest, most "under-reported" problem voters have with the GOP that cannot be ameliorated or "saved" via its misguided "messaging" campaign. Namely, the People are sick and tired of the "black and white" worldview that purposely omits any cost/benefit analysis. Your hollow, conclusory critique of "anyone that invokes Bush" simply underscores the extent of this "disconnect" with reality, e.g., instead of discussing the "how" and "why" of a $4 trillion+ war THAT IS AN ONGOING drain to the People's limited fiscal resources...you actually are ignorant enough to imply that the People have something to "win" by further "re-investigating" Benghazi, as if, in the end, there is anything left to discuss or ascertain. What, pray tell, is there to revisit? The GOP steadfastly REFUSES to RAISE REVENUE...so, what, you can "whine" about a lack of security at US Embassies that YOUR OWN POLICY of fiscal starvation proximately causes? That's how asinine your positions are. "Outsourcing" leads to a "welfare state". "Deregulation" of Wall St. leads to derivative trading run amok and causing massive "bailouts" by the State. "Free trade" leads to a trade deficit and poisoned consumer goods from Asia. "Unilateralism" leads to expensive, protracted Arab occupations that simply exacerbate the anti-American/Israeli sentiment that purportedly "affirms" the propaganda Al Qaeda feeds its poor citizens to explain the "how" and "why" there is such a disproportionate distribution of wealth in Arab society. 

But instead of even reaching the merits of ANY of these important policy issues...you just parrot the same "talking points" that simply run around in circles, i.e., there is no discernible benefit to the People to, inter alia, undermine and/or unduly hinder (1) the Commander in Chief's use of cost-effective drones against those taking up arms against our troops; (2) the IRS' ability to perform the necessary due diligence on behalf of the People to ensure "charities" are operating within the letter of the law when funneling money to special interest-driven agendas; (3) the Executive branch's ability to prosecute leakers of top secret information that touch and concerns National Security; and, (4) of course, emboldening our enemies with this partisan witch hunt over, what, deliberately opaque Benghazi statements that create no prejudice to the People's strategic, fiscal or diplomatic interests. 

So, spare us the "it's all coming unglued" imaginary narrative. The last time we heard such "wishful thinking", Ham Rove was calling Ohio.

"After the event, even the fool is wise." - Viscount Symonds

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelStephenson1 So instead we should listen to a you? On what planet? The GOP lied and edited the e-mails to show a cover up that wasn't there. I hope they man up and punish the people responsible.

notsacredh
notsacredh

The repubicans actually DID something? Lol. Job creation. Now they can take credit for SOMETHING.

paulejb
paulejb

@mantisdragon91

Seriously, Bugs? You are going to post this bulls**t without giving credit to Mori? Do you have deal among hive drones to share talking points?

Ok, yes, I'll admit it. I'm enjoying the Republicans being exposed as liars. Again. Even better, I'm hoping the media is on to them, too.

Earlier today, CBS News reported that at least two of the Benghazi e-mails that were leaked by Republicans last Friday were altered. The GOP leak of the altered Benghazi e-mails came five days before the White House released 100 pages of e-mail correspondence regarding the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

One of the altered e-mails was from Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes. The other altered e-mail was from U.S. State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

http://recall-all-republicans.tumblr.com/post/50632445384/odinsblog-earlier-today-cbs-news-reported



Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/17/morning-must-reads-may-17/#ixzz2Ta7asL8T

Paul,nnto
Paul,nnto

@mantisdragon91 The media is (are? I can never keep that straight) exposed as dupes for the rightists yet again. 

Ohiolib
Ohiolib

@fitty_three There was also paulie's little foray into vdare. I'd say that's far more telling.

paulejb
paulejb

@fitty_three 

That's bold talk coming from a hive drone who takes his Kool-Aid intravenously.

epluribus2013
epluribus2013

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout Yea mantisdragin is totally right. There's no evidence at all that anything was done wrong by anyone in our goverment, so there is no need for investigation!   We don't need to worry about goverment corruption, we need the governmnet to create more jobs!  Taht is what they should be fokussing on.

ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91 @ahandout  Where is Odumbo's plan?  Maybe it's somewhere in Hawaii or in the Amnesty plan.  Or, he has the IRS working on it in Cincinnati.

MichaelStephenson1
MichaelStephenson1

@drudown @MichaelStephenson1 You say I  "parrot a talking point" that I did not even mention or refer to in any way, one that you pulled out of nowhere.  You're not just a fool, you're a fabulist.  Thanks for making my point about changing the subject..

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@epluribus2013 @mantisdragon91 @ahandout We should be doing both, the problem is that the GOP seems uninterested or incapable of doing both, and most Americans care more about their own pockets as opposed to which political slush fund masquerading as a non profit got its feathers ruffled.

reallife
reallife

@ahandout@mantisdragon91"Seriously, you have some issues."

BINGO!

lol

he's been working so much lately, he can't keep up with all the scandals popping up

and here comes his response in 1, 2,  3...



ahandout
ahandout

@mantisdragon91  The plan is to remove the lying sack of Sh!t from office.  If you don't trust him, why have you been on this site for the last 9 months defending him like he's your god?  Seriously, you have some issues. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

What is the GOP's? 300 more votes to repeal ObamaCare?



Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

@MichaelStephenson1 @drudown What?  They changed drafts of emails?  Couldn't they just wing it like the rest of us?

And just for clarification, are you talking about the official communications released by the White House or the ones Republicans altered?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelStephenson1 @drudown Changing the subject you mean like the GOP House changing the focus from their promise to have a "Laser Like Focus on Jobs"? What exactly have they don this term to attempt and fulfill that promise?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelStephenson1 @mantisdragon91Who's talking about Bush, I'm talking about the  current GOP congress which hold hearing after hearing on repealing Obamacare and chase very scandal in sight, but do absolutely nothing to improve the working conditions or job prospects of the American worker.

MichaelStephenson1
MichaelStephenson1

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelStephenson1 Why are you talking about Bush?  Why not Hitler or Stalin?

We're talking about scandals surrounding the Obama administration. You do understand that,don't you? Try to focus... you can barely maintain cognitive grasp on one topic, let alone additional extraneous ones.




mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelStephenson1 @mantisdragon91 We got sold a bill of goods? You mean like the GOP congress telling us that they will have a laser like focus on jobs, and then spending all their time in politically inspired hearings and attempts to repeal Obamacare? So much time have they actually spend on the jobs that the said they would focus like a laser on?

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@paulejb @mantisdragon91 So sue me Paule. If Plagiarism is the best you can find to complain about, you know the GOP's Goose on this is cooked. I wonder if it is illegal to alter public documents prior to a congressional hearing?

jmac
jmac

@fitty_three @paulejb Why do you encourage him, fitty-three?   I'm going to start answering him also if you and mantisdragon keep it up and then he can take over the blog again.   Quit giving him what he wants.