In the Arena

Cheney Confesses

He really should go away

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Jason Reed / Reuters

Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney is pictured in the audience at the dedication ceremony for the George W. Bush Presidential Center in Dallas, April 25, 2013.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney has confessed to changing the CIA’s accurate information on Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction for political reasons.

You start out with the truth as reported by the intelligence community, and then you turn it into a total distortion once the political types in the White House and some senior folks at the State Department get their hands on it.

Oh. Wait a minute. Cheney was actually talking–quite inaccurately–about Benghazi. But, boy, the lack of self-knowledge is staggering, or perhaps a spectacular rebellion by his subconscious. The shamelessness is staggering as well. He really should go away.

100 comments
FeebWillis
FeebWillis

Joe, until you figure out that the NSA is Cheney's true gift to the nation, not interested in YOUR comments.

FeebWillis
FeebWillis

Joe, until you figure out that the NSA nonsense is Cheney's true gift to us, not interested in YOUR comments.

Paleoguy1
Paleoguy1

Seriously??  This a article is non-sense  The intel on Iraq's WMD's came from British MI6, NOT US intelligence.  The intel (British Intelligence, did I mention that already) was so good that 37 of 49 Democratic Senators voted in favor of going to war.

You Dems can sit and try to re-write history all you like, but the truth is still the truth and NO ONE lied unless it was MI6 which I doubt very seriously.  The nature of intelligence is always percentages.  

Keep in mind prior to the Bin Laden raid it was believed, based on intelligence that there was 40% chance he would NOT be in the compound.

You freakin' people need get over your Bush obsession.

olrockcandymtnroustabout
olrockcandymtnroustabout

I have no doubt that Cheney had America's best interests at heart. But a criminal is a criminal. Only difference, Cheney will never do time. What the Repub leadership has done to this country every single day since day one of this new century is criminal. Today they will dishonor our soil with their phony politics.

notLostInSpace
notLostInSpace

He looks like a character from Dallas.  But no one on that show was ever that evil!

RickHunter
RickHunter

Darth Cheney once again proves to the world that he is a liar and a hypocrite!

Jargus
Jargus

This photo reminds me of Senator Palpatine plotting strategic evil while attending Qui-Gon Jinn's funeral in Star Wars: Episode I...

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

This is a tweet, not an article. But I agree there is never a bad time to bash the evil Cheney. He is the very personification of everything America and human beings should not be.

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

I don't need to read the article. So Cheney confessed to being satan. So what? It's common knowledge and has been widely known for at least a decade now, if not longer.

sacredh
sacredh

The heart of a homeless person and unicorn blood are the only two things keeping Cheney alive. But, oh, the price he pays.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

"But, boy, the lack of self-knowledge is staggering, or perhaps a spectacular rebellion by his subconscious. The shamelessness is staggering as well. He really should go away."

Hold on, Joe. Were you just writing about Cheney?...or was your own subconscious rebelling (spectacularly) for a moment....?

mjshep
mjshep

In many years of bloviating this may well be the best column Klein has written.  Short , sweet, to the point and just the right amount of humor.

curt3rd
curt3rd

This is not real reporting. 

sacredh
sacredh

Even the Ferengi think Cheney is a greedy, heartless b@stard.

RamonRoman
RamonRoman

The whole thing about Benghazi, Afghanistan, Iraq and possibly any other Islamist country termed enemy of the USA and Israel  could be summarized in the following manner: Arrogance due to the power of the American military industrial complex and the meddling of the internal Zionists in the congress where they are a majority and the external ones imbued in Israel, in the affairs of sovereign countries, considered enemies of the Zionists . In Afghanistan, the terrorists were labelled Jihadists or freedom fighters by the pundits in the USA, but influenced by the cold war, were armed and organized by Washington.  In Iraq, with the excuse of possible existence of terrorists plus the lies of WMD, every person that rebelled against the illegal invasion, was labelled a TERRORIST. In Libya, again, everyone against the dictator enemy of Israel, was labelled a jihadist or freedom fighter and armed and organized by the USA and helped by the bombings of NATO. Now , Syria, where the fanatical cutthroats and human eaters Islamists are fighting against a dictator enemy of Israel, but a secular one, are labelled REBELS and organized and armed by the same Zionists in Washington. Will they never learn?  You can not trust a fanatical Islamist, you can not arm them, because the reality will hit you in the face, as in Afghanistan, as in Benghazi, Libya, as in Iraq, and now possibly in the near future in Syria. There is a common denominator in all of this and all of you close your eyes not to see it.  The international policies of the American Government through the Congress is dominated by the Zionist Agenda. Don't be surprised that this Agenda leads to bigger war than the 2nd one.

JackBrumbelow
JackBrumbelow

Well, now I understand "TALKING POINTS".   This is a 'CONFESSION'.   You are as brazen and forthcoming as the lastest round of PRESS SECRETARIES".

I still want to know when "TALKING POINTS"  become "PROPAGANDA"....

kellyjo5150
kellyjo5150

Yeah,  Joe Klein let's talk about the Bush Administration.  I saw you got all daring the other day and criticized Obama.  Next day you got a little wobbly on your Obama equals Nixon analogy..IRS give you a call ? . Unfortunately, we live in the present so how about we focus on the current batch of screw-ups and fix them.  Obama catches heat because he is the current President, in his second term.  He hasn't taken responsibility, explained or taken corrective action on anything.  Seemingly, he is just a bystander to his own administration.

 There were big screw-ups in Benghazi and the Boston Bombing.  Americans died and, at least in the case of Benghazi, the follow up information from the Obama administration was a pack of lies.  We are now seeing something truly malignant growing in the IRS scandal.   This is recent stuff.  Important stuff.  Affecting us in the here and now.  Can't blame Bush or Cheney.  Do your job as a journalist not as an Obama hack.

WilfTarquin
WilfTarquin

@Paleoguy1 Is that so, Paleoguy1?

Why don't you try googling "curveball informant" and "downing street memo"? For a quick encore, you could then try "office of special plans".

JohnJohnson2
JohnJohnson2

If our nation wasn't still recovering from his fiasco, he would be easier to ignore.  Our intelligence debunked the threat from Saddam long before Bush invaded a country that was no threat to us and had nothing to do with 9-11.  The intelligence community couldn't be trusted to stay true to the Bush/Chaney storyline on the fake threat from Iraq, so they bypassed our intelligence community and stove-piped the false info straight to the whitehouse and gullible public.   The aluminum tubes, the forged Nigerian document about yellow cake purchases, "Curveball" the Iraqi informant, were all debunked by US AND UK prior to the invasion. 

The only ones who were "good" were the war mongers in the Bush adminstration in scaring the public and selling a war that wasn't needed and cost us trillions, not to mention thousands of our brave soldiers blood....

megapril
megapril

You know nothing about Cheney, and you probably understand less about your (assumed) idol, BHO...

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@sacredh Unicorn blood?  No wonder they are extinct. Has anyone surveyed the number of virgins still left in a 100 mile radius of his man sized safe?

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@sacredh Whenever D!ck gets feelin' blue he just shoots a guy in the face and feels much, much better....

bryanfred1
bryanfred1

Shocking that Bush's VP would be at a dedication ceremony for his Presidential library.  The gall of the man.

Diecash1
Diecash1

@curt3rd Perhaps you've failed to notice that Swampland contains blog posts, not news articles?  Regardless, Klein nailed this one right on the button.

retiredvet
retiredvet

Cheney looks dead already. Like some kind of zombie.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@sacredh Not Heartless. Not anymore. There is a cooling homeless man's corpse missing a heart that argues otherwise.

riccismiles
riccismiles

@RamonRoman as long as opponents toss "zionist agenda" against the wall of pure 100% unadulterated capitalism with a hard crust of oligarchy, your claims and decrees will fall in the waste basket with all of the other screams of insane people. Be more clear with your protest and you'll get more attention. America's capitalist LOVE when people lump them in with groups that no one cares about due to a lack of history and general misunderstanding. America is greed and capitalism perfected -though starting to fall apart indeed. We are a rich country of about 1 million uber-wealthy families that do whatever they can to keep their cash and status for as long as they can. Coloring this with any religion is perrrrfect for them because it has never stuck and wont stick anytime soon. Remove the mythology and be direct.

tommyudo
tommyudo

@kellyjo5150 


Ignore mantisdragon, please do hold your breath. I want to see you turn blue. So now Barack is responsible for the Bostom Marathon bombing too? Why do I have the feeling that during  Jan 2001 to  Jan 2009 you were acting as a cheer leader for the Cheney Administration. Your selective outrage is transparent and thus to be ignored.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@kellyjo5150Yes something malignant in the IRS scandal. Don't hold your breath:


This might shock you, but the politicos weighing in on the IRS scandal aftermath occasionally leap to conclusions. Over the weekend, the National Republican Congressional Committee issued attacks on Democratic incumbents because they (or more realistically, their spokesmen) had not issued responses to the scandal. (For example: "We all know that Tim Bishop could care less about crushing debt and wasteful government spending, but his failure to speak up on these issues on behalf of [his] constituents is flat out wrong.") A big assumption on the right is that Democrats spurred the IRS's bad behavior by banging the table about the Kochs and Karl Rove and all those rich people hiding money in tax-exempt "social welfare" groups.

Why assume? Because the IG report actually absolves the rest of the administration and the Obama campaign from the accusation of direct pressure. The key lines:

We asked the Acting Commissioner, Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division; the Director, EO; and Determinations Unit personnel if the criteria were influenced by any individual or organization outside the IRS. All of these officials stated that the criteria were not influenced by any individual or organization outside the IRS. Instead, the Determinations Unit developed and implemented inappropriate criteria in part due to insufficient oversight provided by management. Specifically, only first-line management approved references to the Tea Party in the BOLO [Be on the Look-Out] listing criteria before it was implemented. As a result, inappropriate criteria remained in place for more than 18 months.

This is why, since the report came out, you've heard more questions about when/why/how key Democrats learned of the story, and why they didn't react until the AP broke the news last Friday. Recall that the IRS officials dinged here are often career officials and Bush appointees -- not great scalps. The IG's saying that they're the only scalps that deserved to be separated from their skulls.

Paleoguy1
Paleoguy1

Why don't you ask 37 of 49 democratic senators why they voted in favor of invading Iraq.  

Monday morning quarterbacking is easy, the pay stinks but it's easy work, you two are perfect for the job.

sacredh
sacredh

I really thought that the introduction of a human heart would mellow the old fart. I admit error.

RamonRoman
RamonRoman

@riccismiles @RamonRoman With all due respect, r smiles, you are too parochial. You live in your little world of pepsi and anything that happens outside it has a simple explanation. My comment was about of what's happening in the Middle East. My humble comment has nothing to do with your capitalism that is failing with another name in the world. Finally, not to stretch this too much, If you haven't heard what Zionism is, and what importance it has for your government in the world, it is not my fault, it is the fault of your aggrandizement, thinking that what is happening in the world is just a nuisance for your every day life.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

as far as the name calling I am actually wrong in that. I get infuriated when I feel someone is defensive of the indefensible.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

Orchestrated 9/11? no. Definitely not, and in fact I find fault with Clinton over that. Orchestrated Iraq? You betcha. Not so much because he's evil, but because he was in over his head and needed a win desperately, not just for his own le3gacy, but to appease the masses crying out for vengance and justice. It is not impossible to prove and is in no way absurd.

Many of Bush's policies and procedures were extreme and he did attempt to end many of them, but met with two things, on the one hand, and something that I blame noone for, is Reality. The other , and this does place blame, is a petulant and yes evil conservative movement. Extremist conservatives,. not the moderates. A GOP that has gone too far and thought too little abotu the consequences of their posturing, case in point the Debt Ceiling debacle.

Obama is by NO MEANS a model president, but he is certainly a better president, and a more level headed one.

Paleoguy1
Paleoguy1

I mean you no ill will, but seriously, you need to get over Bush.  His Presidency ended more than 4 years ago.

Being a fiscal conservative I was deeply troubled by Bush 43's spending, but to imply that he somehow orchestrated the the tragic events that occurred during his Presidency is impossible to prove and, in my opinion, absurd.

If his policies were that extreme why didn't President Obama stop all of it?  He didn't and in fact it appears he may have expanded it.

Yes, Bush 43's was a flawed Presidency but every is presidency flawed.

I'm hoping you are not holding up President Obama as the model President.

Also, please note I never called anybody derogatory names in any of my posts.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

@Paleoguy1 we're not angry at him or blaming him in any way for the things he didn't do, but rather for the things he did. Learn the difference between an accusation and an observation.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

@Paleoguy1 or like a neighborhood watchmen who is angry about the a_hols who always get away in his neighborhood but who isn't qualified enough to play with the big boys, but still wants to play tough guy, so he goes after someone he's marked as suspicious to show the world his "credentials" and is truly shocked and oblivious as to why people aren't hailing him as a hero when he ends up killing the young man.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

@Paleoguy1 he didn't have to be clever, just assuming, cowardly, desperate, and powerful enough to enact a chain of events that would give him a legacy. Bush is the accidental terrorist. Like a guy who is distraught over his child's murder at the hands of a bloods gang member and goes on a shooting rampage in a Crips neighborhood, and rapes a muslim to show he can, and wonders why she's not ecstatic when she is blessed with his child.

Paleoguy1
Paleoguy1

And Bush killed Lincoln, Kennedy, Garfield and McKinley..  Certainly Bush was the master mind behind watergate and knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor and told no one.  

The man was an evil genius except for the rest of the time when he was a bumbling fool.

Very clever man George W.

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

Cause:George Bush tells Saddam Hussein he has 10 days to vacate his own country Effect: Other countries perk up their ears

Cause: George Bush's Admin. convinces the senate based on dubious info to sidestep the capture of Osama Bin Laden and concentrate on Iraq, a country not in the slightest associated with 9/11 Effect:Other countries strongly protest, but wait with baited breathe [at this point hypersensitive leaders and governments are paying real close attention to what happens next]

Cause: George Bush's admin succeeds in not only taking down and capturing Saddam Hussein, he also dismantles and disarms its standing army with no plan for stabilizing it's government initially Effect: other countries hope for the best, expect the worst [hypersensitive countries take actions to step up military procedures and capabilities, and incensed muslim extremists mobilize for war, misguided as they may be, to not only 'free' Iraqis from the infidel scourge, but to increase their influence in the region among Iraqis who are biter over increased U.S. presence and occupation [call it what you want, it's an occupation, even if temporary?]]

Cause:George Bush claims freedom is on the march, highlights extremist christian manifest destiny like views to his base, shows desperate people smiling in the guise of ill-fated hope and shows their governments in a negative if not hostile light, and claims he has mandate and authority to promote democracy in governments he has no business in without invitation Effect: Non democratic, yet successful governments take issue with his audacity, and bullet train their agendas [Iran, N. Korea, etc.]

brothergrimace
brothergrimace

@Paleoguy1 I can explain why you schmuck, it's because they didn't think that even a smarmy guy like Bush would go so low as to alter intelligence communiques and cherry pick information just to settle a score for daddums. You'll note as well, if you're reasonable, that dems, while certainly suspicious and distrusting of the saddam regime, and rightfully so, they would not and did not authorize a change in force tactics until AFTER they were duped by false information. False information cherry picked by bush administration officials. Colin Powell also having been duped.

It wasn't hard to push grieving and angry politicians over the edge who felt that something needed to be done. They WANTED soem form of justice, and since Bush was too much a of a sissy to go after Bin laden into Pakistan this was it. But to your point,. no one is giving dems a pass either, just pointing out the herculean hoops YOU have to jump through to engage in the apologetics and equiovocation YOU do to pretend people like Bush and Cheney are being picked on.

I say again, Schmuck.

Diecash1
Diecash1

@curt3rd @Diecash1 You're a bit dim, eh curt?  Maybe one day you'll get the difference between a blog post and a news article.  Maybe you'll even understand the difference between fact and fiction but I won't hold my breath.