Immigration Reform’s First Big Test: The Boston Bombing

Critics of immigration reform are already invoking the marathon bombing suspects as a reason to slow the Senate's controversial immigration bill

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Senator John McCain speaks during a news conference on immigration reform on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C., on April 18, 2013

It was supposed to be a week of triumph, not tragedy. Having spent months painstakingly crafting a comprehensive immigration bill, a bipartisan group of Senators were finally set to unveil their proposal to broad fanfare. Instead the bill’s rollout was derailed by the bombings in Boston and the massive manhunt that followed, a riveting spectacle that played out in real time on national TV.

Voters sat glued to their flat screens as black-clad SWAT teams crept through suburban neighborhoods and Black Hawk helicopters orbited the empty streets of a major city on complete lockdown. Immigration became an afterthought. Conference calls and rallies were canceled. A hearing on Capitol Hill garnered attention only for the questions it raised about the bill’s durability. And Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was forced to reschedule planned testimony, slowing the bill’s progress through the Senate.

Now the aftermath of the terrorist attack presents the first major test of the Senators’ ability to shepherd a controversial overhaul of U.S. immigration law through a bitterly divided Congress — a moment that may determine whether the bombings are a speed bump or a spike strip for the landmark legislation.

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Even before the immigration status of the suspects became clear, critics were wielding the Boston bombings in an effort to slow the bill’s momentum. At the first immigration hearing on Friday, Chuck Grassley, the Senate Judiciary Committee’s ranking member, invoked the April 15 attacks in a plea for caution.

“Given the events of this week, it’s important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system,” Grassley said. “While we don’t yet know the immigration status of the people who terrorized the communities in Massachusetts, when we find out, it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system.”

Early reports suggest that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who continued to elude investigators’ grasp late Friday, became a naturalized U.S. citizen on Sept. 11, 2012, after first being granted asylum and permanent residency. But regardless of the status of Tsarnaev and his elder brother Tamerlan, 26, who was killed in a shootout with police early Friday, history suggests that the immigration debate will be transformed by the tragedy.

It wouldn’t be the first time an immigration bill was derailed by a terrorist attack. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Vicente Fox huddled at the White House just days before the attacks on September 11, 2001, to discuss a border agreement, with Bush readying a reform bill that would have provided resident status to more than 3 million illegal immigrants. Congress never took up the plan.

“One casualty of today’s event is going to be the immigration bill,” says Michael Hammond, legislative counsel of Gun Owners of America, a gun-rights advocacy group. “People are going to look much more carefully at the extent to which we have let terrorists into this country and will let more terrorists into the country if this immigration bill is passed.”

Reform backers tried to push back. In a joint statement, GOP Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham said, “In the wake of this week’s terrorist attack in Boston, some have already suggested that the circumstances of this terrible tragedy are justification for delaying or stopping entirely the effort for comprehensive immigration reform. In fact the opposite is true: immigration reform will strengthen our nation’s security by helping us identify exactly who has entered our country and who has left — a basic function of government that our broken immigration system is incapable of accomplishing today.”

While supporters of the bipartisan compromise are optimistic about the bill’s chances in the Senate, its odds in the House of Representatives have never been rosy. Representative Steve King, an Iowa Republican, pointed to the fact that Napolitano canceled her Senate testimony as evidence that Boston was already bogging down the process. “I now think that proponents for open borders have to stop and reconsider what it is they want to do,” King said. “We need to step back and look at the big picture, at all the different ways that people come into the country, including asylum.”

On Twitter, conservatives opposed to immigration reform were quick to point to the tragedy as a reason to scuttle immigration reform. “I think we can safely say that [Senator Marco] Rubio’s amnesty plan is DOA. And should be. Time to tighten, not loosen, immigration policy,” tweeted Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association. “Because of chain migration, we let the whole family in, even the losers & terrorists,” Ann Coulter wrote. The conservative website Judicial Watch has raised questions as to why the elder suspect wasn’t deported after a domestic-violence arrest.

Alex Conant, a spokesman for Rubio, says that while the investigation will have to sort out on the role, if any, the immigration system played in what happened, it won’t be a setback for the legislation. “Regardless of the circumstances in Boston, immigration reform that strengthens our borders and gives us a better accounting of who is in our country and why will improve our national security,” he says. “Americans will reject any attempt to tie the terrorists responsible for the attacks in Boston with the millions of decent, law-abiding immigrants currently living in the U.S. and those hoping to immigrate here in the future.”

“I’m certain that there will be several on the right wing who will try to use this to their political advantage to undermine the prospect of reform. I hope that they’re not successful, obviously,” says Fergus Cullen, the former chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party and founder of Americans by Choice, a center-right organization supporting immigration reform. “Part of me thinks that it’s more evidence for the fact that our existing system is broken and needs to be modernized and fixed. One of the parts of the immigration reform plan that’s out there includes background checks, and presumably these brothers would have been subject to background checks.”

Reform supporters worry that the attacks will rekindle anti-immigration sentiment against a bill that is fundamentally pro–legal immigration. Others worry about a poison pill included by opponents designed ostensibly in response to the attacks.

The Obama Administration, for its part, is waiting to see how events play out. “Everyone is speculating about what it means for immigration,” says a White House official. “We don’t know. Let’s wait for the facts.”

— With reporting by Michael Scherer / Washington 

51 comments
JohnARandolph
JohnARandolph

The global 1% create economic conditions in their home-countries that coerce their undocumented into ignoring US laws and sneaking into our country.

The home-country 1% profit off of their undocumented leaving and having American taxpayer's footing their medical and education expenses here. They also benefit from the remittances pumped back into their home economies.

The US 1% profit from undocumented labor while simultaneously profiting from their Border Security Industrial Complex (BSIC) that they insist must perpetually expand in order to effectively keep the undocumented from sneaking into our country.

Does this remind you of the 1%'s forty-year long, trillion dollar drug war that they just can't seem to ever win?

Reagan's Amnesty of the mid-1980's, Clinton's NAFTA of the mid-1990's and the Gang of 8's immigration bill of today reveal the 1%'s devious game. Despite their pro "secure the border" propaganda, there is and always has been simply too much profit made in keeping the undocumented coming to the US for them to really ever end the problem. The 1% continues to perpetually profit off of the undocumented's labor while simultaneously amassing huge corporate profits from taxpayers funding the 1%'s BSIC.

Their BSIC needs the undocumented coming to the US just as their military industrial complex needs wars to justify their "profit above people" existences.

The Gang of 8 wants you to forget the lies of Reagan's Amnesty and Clinton's NAFTA
in order to insidiously pull the wool over your eyes again.

swagger
swagger

the big sellout and swindle called "immigration reform" (alias new cheap labor for republican businessmen) is DOA.  no way, jose.  until employers are required to only hire legal workers or face heavy fines and jail, which will never happen, this fraud of a proposal may as well go through the paper shredder.

valentine.godoflove
valentine.godoflove

By Carl Sandburg, socialist poet Chicago..........."GIVE ME YOU POOR, YOUR TIRED, YOUR WEAK......YOUR REJECTS.......YOUR CRIMINALS.......YOUR......TERORISTS.......LOL

valentine, comedian

PatrickPine
PatrickPine

We need to remember that the heroic man in the cowboy hat who rescued the bomb victim who gave the first good lead to the FBI and law enforcement to identify the suspects happens to be an undocumented immigrant whose son fought for us and died in service to us.  A fence on our southern border would have had zero impact on the bombers nor the 9/11 criminals nor Aurora, Newtown, Ft. Hood, in Oakland or Portland killers.

ErikKengaard
ErikKengaard

" . . . while background checks are considered the major method to control gun violence, with regard to immigration Democrats have very aggressively fought the existing Federal background checks required for persons entering the U.S." Michael Bargo Jr.  @AmericanThinker

ErikKengaard
ErikKengaard

"The only way to sell the legalization of illegal aliens to many congressmen was to add assurances that the government would clamp down to prevent future illegal entries into the U.S. The main tool for that, as envisioned in the immigration-reform bills, is strict penalties against American employers who hire illegal aliens." Orange County Register, November 19, 1985 on Simpson Mazzoli

We've seen how well that worked out.


 

ErikKengaard
ErikKengaard

"At one time or another, acceleration of population growth . . .  has been sought by militarists in need of cannon fodder, by rulers in search of hegemonic expansion, by industrialists in want of cheap and docile labor, by ecclesiastical spokesmen in search of souls, and by land and other speculators hungering for unearned increment." Joseph J Spengler

SarahNewman
SarahNewman

Gang of 8, do not harm the U.S like the way you do. Illegal people who violate our immigration law, they will violate other laws. Lobbyist gave  you how much money that you sell the U.S to Latinos? Latinos who give birth many children and ask welfare and medical help. We do not want uneducated people to live here. We go to work to pay taxes to help these kind of people?? If you are old ennough and do not have intelligent brain, please retire. 

seizeabe
seizeabe

John McCain spoke the absolute truth (in January 2013), when he stated that comprehensive immigration reform was need of the hour because of the coming "elections, elections". The hard truth is immigration reform promises will decide who will win seats to the senate and house, and which party will win the majority in the house and senate.

When intention does not align to the greater good of the nation or to the real needs or affected immigrants, the reform is only political, and not principled.

The larger question is whether America really needs immigrants anymore. If it does, then reform must be longterm, firm and fuller in context. The longer ambiguity, indecision and procrastination continue, the greater will the effect be on the economy, society and the lives of immigrant families (awaiting decision).

While families that have got permanent residency and citizenship can plan and lead stable lives, the plight of children, spouses and others' whose decisions are pending inordinately, are being crushed in utter turmoil. Those individuals are leading real lives, consistently singeing under the pressure of social and financial burdens.

Those individuals and families are facing years of uncertainty, whether their lives will finally stabilize. How long more will they have to pay the several thousands of fees to renew their status? Will they suddenly be thrown out? Can they invest in a home? Though they are paying all taxes as any citizen, they and their children are denied any and every opportunity of college and higher education. There are individuals who are providing healthcare, education and other vital services to the elderly and children of citizens, but they themselves and their children are denied the very same services because they are not permanent residents. They are unable to travel freely, because USCIS does not stamp visas on passports while renewing or extending their visas. Children who are doctors, researchers and in other responsible roles are constantly living a life of uncertainty.

Is this the America we intended to create? Is this the free world we boast of? Is this the immigration system that promises 'e pluribus unum'?

JJGross
JJGross

The vast majority of Muslims are not murderers, just as the vast majority of Germans were not SS men. However virtually all contemporary terrorists are Muslims who are tolerated if not celebrated by their silent majority, just as Hitler's henchmen were during World War 2. Western countries cannot afford the risk of inviting Muslim immigrants i until such time as these communities become actively involved in denouncing terror and exposing the radicals in their midst.  There is no sign of this happening. indeed, the opposite is occurring as radical Islamists take over Iran, Egypt and other predominantly lands, clamoring for blood and spouting the vilest rhetoric imaginable..  We have a right to defend ourselves against the inevitable fruits of this rhetoric. And if it means racial profiling, so be it,

MikeJones
MikeJones

Absolutely SCARY how the FBI let this MAD BOMBER go free...."nothing wrong here".

This crazy Amnesty Bill is MORE of the SAME CRAP.....our Borders are WIDE OPEN!!!!

MikeJones
MikeJones

We Need Security..Not this insane "bill" that reflects immigration policy that leaves us WIDE OPEN

to Terrorist ATTACKS.......FBI already "investigated" this Green Card Holder..Suspect #1....under the Obama administration this MASS MURDERER was given the old Catch And RELEASE treatment.....they HAD the MAD BOMBER and they LET HIM GO...........NOW this INSANE Bill??? Not even worth considering. Secure this country and STOP with this CRAZY TALK about Amnesty for Criminal ALIENS.

iwouldtoinyourshoes
iwouldtoinyourshoes

I do not think Repubs hate immigration, are racists, or suffer from xenophobia.  Its not about hate...its about jobs!  I have often thought that if I lived anywhere else in the world, wouldn't I want to get to the USA by any means necessary ?  I want to live the dream Americans can or at least have the opportunity to create more than any other citizen of any other country in the world.  I would want to be one of the 50 million immigrants who will risk anything to get across our borders once immigration reform is put in place, and claim I am one of the 13 million people who have been here illegally.  An open door of any kind would be one I would go through to live in this USA you and I call home.  I cannot blame immigrants for wanting to live here at all.  I love this country and have no desire to live elsewhere.  But I would like to know what is the best answer.  I am still searching for the best solution, but it cannot be tied to politicians who want votes.  It has to be a reform the people all agree with, instead of get reformed by what is forced upon us without knowing what the bill is about.  I don't know how low income families will be able to afford healthcare if they cannot get any insurance if they aren't already healthy either.  I am not saying I want Obamacare.  I just think its better to start something and make the course corrections as necessary along the way, rather than do nothing and call everyone who doesn't like what is being done stupid.

KatyPerez
KatyPerez

Repubs always say they love LEGAL immigrants. Well, the Boston bombers emigrated LEGALLY. They did it the right way. So why are repubs kicking and screaming?? Truth is, this tragedy proves that the immigration system is broken. It needs to get fixed, modernized and updated. First of all, if these family were asylum seekers why did they go back and forth? asylum seekers are people that are persecuted and want to stay in their adopted country like America.Because they fear if they go back they can be killed or their lives are in jeopardy. Repubs are using this tragedy to stop immigration because they hate immigrants. So they are willing to put the blame of this heinous act on immigrants that they dislike because of their xenophobia and racism. Shame on the repubs who put hate and racism before country. America deserves better and more modern immigration laws. Because it is clear as water that the current  IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE NOT WORKING !!

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

 THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BORDER FENCE?

Time and time again, I have stated that any kind of new Comprehensive Reform before Congress is going to cost the U.S. working taxpayer plenty? For years now I have been spilling the beans from a report by Robert Rector, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation had released a report a decade ago of how much the taxpayer would have dished out. After it was calculated that the cost $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS. The Liberal press has settled on the illegal population of 11 million, that seems to have been roughly the same count of illegal migrants and visa overstays for 10 years. Yet we know the border has been flooded with foreigners and although the government have stated the numbers have reduced somewhat, the anonymous Border Patrol agents that far more illegal aliens had escaped capture and vanished, that those who have been detained.

 

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

Before any illegal alien should be rewarded with legal status, the border fence must be revisited and built to the designs of the 2006 Secure Fence Act. An actual bill was passed, but was then compromised and defunded by Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson.Only 14 miles of the fence was constructed, instead of the 700 miles as determined by the law and then it is ONLY a single fence, not the two fences as were committed to by the Congress. I am sure the Special Interest lobbyists had something to do with the undermining of the law, because the only winners were business owners using cheap labor.

Big business always has a say in the laws to be passed or not, this will be the same with this second immigration reform.Whether it farmers or agriculture crying about shortage of labor, because they pay below standard wages and little in the way of benefits. The major part of the burden placed in the hands of the taxpayer including healthcare, education for their children of guest workers.Not saying that America cannot do without Guest workers, but it must be well regulated and with no guarantee of being given a “Green Card.”They should only be allowed a visa, with the requirement that they must leave when visa expires and should be tracked if they try to abscond from their appointed employer.Equally essential, is that visitors to this country must also be tracked, and not be allowed to “Overstay” a visa and held accountable if they do.

IF THIS LEGAL STATUS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FINDS PASSAGE, WE MUST DEMAND FROM CONGRESS A MANDATORY IDENTIFICATION CARD FOR EVERY LEGAL PERSON. THIS IS WILL THIN OUT LEGAL FROM ILLEGAL PEOPLE, WHO TRY TO ENTER THE U.S AFTER THE LAW IS PASSED? TWO MORE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT CAN RELIEF PRESSURE WITH THE BIOMETRIC ID CARD, IS USING IT FOR VOTING AND EVEN TO STOP CREDIT FRAUD.

 

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

Also we must write an annotation to the 14th Amendment, the Birthright Citizenship Act so only the offspring of a U.S. citizen can become a U.S.Citizen and not the smuggled children of impoverished women from foreign countries looking for taxpayer to cover the costs of births,their children’s education, welfare, housing and cash payments. Then the sponsorship that leads to Family Chain Migration, which once again becomes a tax yoke around the taxpayers again.

Glenn Spencer -- American Border Patrol -- April 20  says Border Security for Dummies

A couple of days ago I laid out a simple plan for securing the border. It turns out it was too simple because some didn't understand it. One even said that the Sonic Barrier couldn't be installed on Indian Reservation land. This is not true. In fact, the federal government has already constructed vehicle barriers on the border adjacent to Indian Reservations (see map).
    Moreover the Roosevelt Easement allows the federal government access to 60 of the border with Mexico. This is from a GAO report: "The land where this fencing was built has been publicly owned since 1907 when President Theodore Roosevelt reserved a 60-foot strip along the international boundary with Mexico for the United States to maintain the area free from obstructions as a protection against the smuggling of goods between the United States and Mexico. In effect, the Roosevelt easement provided the federal government with a 60-foot border right-of-way on which it could build the fence."
    The federal government has the power to construct a fence along the border to protect the United States. In fact, in 2008 DHS Secretary Chertoff issued a waiver "to bypass environmental reviews to speed construction of fencing along the Mexican border." (NY Times)
    To avoid any further misunderstanding about my border security proposals, I have fleshed them out a little more. See "How Border Security Can Work." Please read it carefully.

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

As soon as any of the nearly 11 million unauthorized immigrants are given legal status, the political fight will turn to speeding their transition to citizenship and promises of a full array of federal benefits. Delaying eligibility for federal benefits to newly legalized immigrants merely puts off the day of reckoning. The truly enormous costs come when unauthorized immigrants start collecting retirement benefits. Social Security, Medicare, food stamps and other entitlement programs already impose huge, unfunded liabilities on taxpayers; adding more recipients only makes the fiscal hole we find ourselves in much deeper. An amnesty of more than 10 million unauthorized immigrants will add significant costs to taxpayers because of the simple fact that, on average, today's unauthorized immigrants have the equivalent of a 10th-grade education. Those with that education level, whatever their background, tend to collect much more in benefits than they pay in taxes. And that means that the fiscal burden on Americans only gets heavier with amnesty. We cannot afford a policy that will add trillions of dollars to our long-term fiscal deficit. Congress should fix our broken legal immigration system before considering giving unauthorized residents citizenship and federal benefits. This reform should be done in a step-by-step, open process that will win the trust of the American people.

You will find a petition at NumbersUSA to stop this travesty of the illegal alien invasion. Read more about the undeveloped border fence at AmericanPatrol and a surprising sensor called the “Sonic Barrier” that is far superior to the regular units they have on the border. AmericanPatrol can also illustrate to you the incompetence and intentional ignorance of the risks at the border, plus daily news and views that the Liberal press is keeping concealed? Here is a few websites for petitions against illegal immigration, news and reports not seen within the pages of the left wing press. NumbersUSA carries much intelligence on specific laws, with American Patrol showing ample evidence of an extremely weak border and ineffectual control at ports of entry, including airline terminals. There is daily news also to be found here, at American Patrol and all the happenings in Washington.Corruption and abuse of all our laws, pending immigration bills and abuses in congress is available at Judicial Watch. We cannot give any ground of any kind is to exchange blows, by confronting politician in any method possible, to even calling them through the Central Washington phone terminal at (202) 224-312. Don’t forget the TEA PARTY are for maximum freedom and the U.S Constitution. REMEMBER THESE LAWS CAN STOP FURTHER WAVES OF AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INVASION, THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE FORCED TO PAY.



AmericanWoman
AmericanWoman

How about we start looking at those on our so called "alert" and "concern" lists? If there is CONCERN, then why keep them here? It matters not where they come from, or what their religious practices are, or what color their skin is, or if they are male or female...Logically, if they appear to be " of concern ", deport before we have a problem.

also...the father Anzor Tsarnaev  said there would be hell to pay if his other "little angel" was killed...So, WTH was all THAT about? And he also stated he went back to the motherland to die due to a hematoma but somehow, he miraculously "pulled out of it, practically came back from the dead, as it were, here.” So, my question is, why then did he not return to be with his "little angel"? LOTS of questions. Perhaps we will get answers, but how many of them will be factual? And where the hell did these kids get all their money from? It appears that Tamerlan was not working. Was Daddy "financing" their lives here... Inquiring minds  HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW!

retiredvet
retiredvet

Instead of restoring the Statue of Liberty we should just tear it down.

retiredvet
retiredvet

For the love of Pete! The Senate is already slowed down to the point of moving backwards. Now they want to hit the accelerator in reverse?

MrObvious
MrObvious

I fail to see what the Boston Bombing has anything to do with it.


They were legal.

DeKrypted
DeKrypted

So basically this is going to result in a 'see what crazy LEGAL immigrants do, what might happen with all those ILLEGAL immigrants?!!!!!' as a rationale for putting the screws to immigration even worse rather than reforming the clustermess it is now?  And they MIGHT just ride this to a win on this issue?


God, this country sometimes.

AlistairCookie
AlistairCookie

Let's see...failed shoe bomb of an airplane, and now we all have to take off our shoes.  This with the added indignities of the pat downs or full body scans.

Someone of foreign birth does something horrific, and we need to stop immigration reform.  Because, you know, Muslims or something. 

Crazy born and raised here white dude shoots a bunch of first graders (only the latest in a long line of gun tragedies), and we can't do a *single thing* to even vaguely limit guns in this country.

Got it.  Peachy.

jcapan
jcapan

Yes, the acts of certain Muslims and now immigrants taint all Muslims and immigrants. Whereas when the culprits are definitively American, white and/or Christian where, I implore you, are the calls to cease all native births.

And for the love of god, anyone driving in the Watertown area, including the police, show us all a little mercy and run over Wolf Blitzer.

ErikKengaard
ErikKengaard

@PatrickPine - how about better background checks on immigrants? Nidal Hasan was raised as a Muslim by his parents, who were Palestinians who immigrated to the U.S. Seung-Hui Cho came here at 8 from South Korea. One Goh Ko came here at a young age to join his parents from South Korea. Why was Sulejman Talovic allowed entry?  Who shot and killed Jamiel Shaw, a promising young student in LA? Who shot and killed Thurber Lane, a top Soquel High basketball player? Who shot and killed Tony Bologna and his sons? Why was Alexander Izaguirre allowed entry? Why was Mohamed Mohamud allowed entry? Who was Dmitriy Yakovlev? and hundreds more

swagger
swagger

@ErikKengaard we live in a gun culture and act bewildered by random heinous acts of murder and mayhem.  

repeal or revise the 2nd amendment.

no one is coming for your 300 million guns, but if "they" were you would not have a chance to stop them.

ErikKengaard
ErikKengaard

@seizeabe" . . . the greatest destroyers of man's options are growth and excessive concentration of population." Joseph J Spengler

Afrozemerchant
Afrozemerchant

The point you have made is valid about all Muslims are not terrorist,but at the same time you are saying it is ok to stop them from coming here or racial profiling,if this principal is adopted then you have to monitor all white kids who are killing other kids in school with guns,and blacks for drugs and violence,homosexuals for being pedophiles,I am sure you don't want a society which generalize people with bad apples in there community,religion or ethnicity.just the way you would not stop driving when you know thousands of people are killed every year driving,you take your chances and do the best to make it as safe as possible.

swagger
swagger

@MikeJones we need fortress america with a wall completely surrounding us and to h*** with the cost to insure our freedom.

stanpru
stanpru

@KatyPerez NO, our IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE NOT ENFORCED !!!!!!!

Is this simple fact too difficult for you to comprehend ??


DeKrypted
DeKrypted

@retiredvet And replace 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free' with 'No Vacancy' and 'Papers Please'

bobcn
bobcn

@MrObvious 

More than just legal residents.  The young one is a naturalized American citizen.

C_Ryback
C_Ryback

@AlistairCookie Yeah, those guys are members of the political party of U.S. Sen. Fake Indian (D), they should get amnesty. Of course.

OweBama (D) and Fake Indian (D) are inexperienced fools. They get nothing.

manlyman
manlyman

I hear ya ally. "Gun free zones" like Newtown, and Aurora and VTech sure save a lot of lives huh?

JJGross
JJGross

@Afrozemerchant None of the miscreants you mention are miscreants BECAUSE of their ethnicity or religion.  Only Islamic terrorists are murderers in the name of Islam.  And their co-religionists who give birth to these killers, their parents, siblings, neighbors, fellow worshipers at the mosque are SILENT.

yodadog
yodadog

@DeKrypted @retiredvet Amen-people used to come here for a better life. Today, too many are coming to destroy lives. We need to shut it down tight, make it very difficult to come here, mush less become a citizen (as Australia does), and ship those 11 million home. 

Afrozemerchant
Afrozemerchant

There are people who are born here in USA like the school kid killer who killed many children,the Oklahoma bombing done by born white Americans,the immigration policy should not be based on one incident,but by careful consideration that there are millions of deserving immigrants who work hard and contribute positively towards this country's growth and prosperity,there are bad apples in every community every religion and every ethnicity,so instead of generalizing all the immigrants in a negative light,the lawmakers need to put procedures in place to best filter out this bad apples and make it hard for people with bad intentions out of this country.

Afrozemerchant
Afrozemerchant

The Islamic terrorist are the same type of people who want to do something violent just like this weirdos killing innocent people,but they use the name of there religion to gain respectability for there action,the same way the white supreme mist groups uses cross for its hateful propaganda you don't call this Christian terrorist or hate groups,,the reason you don't here people talking against this individual it is the bias in media reporting who are more interested in branding Islam as synonymous to terror,when in actuality majority of Muslims in this world are moderates,but there voices have been suppressed by the media and people who want to make them look bad in the eyes of the world.

yodadog
yodadog

@DeKrypted @yodadog @retiredvet If being picky about who gets entry into this country and making sure only those who entered, and enter, legally is xenophobic/snark deprived (whatever THAT means), then by all means yes. And build the damn fence with those 11 million illegals before we send them back.