How Gay Marriage Won

The gay and lesbian community has gone from Stonewall to the altar in two generations

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Justice Antonin Scalia dissented, maintaining that “moral disapproval” was sufficient reason to sustain the challenged law. But in the decade since Bowers v. Hardwick, the majority had come around to Blackmun’s view that traditional scruples cannot justify discrimination. It was this principle that Kennedy applied again seven years later, when he wrote the opinion in Lawrence v. Texas that overturned the Bowers precedent. Gays and lesbians enjoy the same right to privacy in their intimate lives as heterosexuals, Kennedy declared, while in a separate concurring opinion, Justice Sandra Day O’Connor added plainly, “Moral disapproval of a group cannot be a legitimate governmental interest under the Equal Protection Clause.”

“This reasoning leaves on pretty shaky grounds state laws limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples,” Scalia wrote in reply, because state laws designed to “preserve the traditional institution of marriage” were in fact rooted in “moral disapproval of same-sex couples.” And by then, the ground was shaky indeed.

The court had simply ratified what Americans were discovering daily: that gay men and lesbians were not aliens from society, somehow set apart. Their number included Olympic gold medalists like Greg Louganis, billionaires like David Geffen, entertainers like Ellen DeGeneres. A gay rugby player, Mark Bingham, was among the bold passengers who thwarted the hijackers of Flight 93 on 9/11. The Archbishop of Milwaukee, Rembert Weakland, was gay. The person next door, in the next office cubicle, the person seated next to you at Thanksgiving dinner or Passover seder or in the pew in church could be gay. Thus did the other begin to shade into the ordinary.

Though polls have continued to show resistance to same-sex marriage among Americans over 65, the ones born after 1980 are stoutly in favor. They are the cultural vanguard, more libertarian than the generation before, who made mainstream hits of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Glee. And every day there are more of them and fewer of the old folks, a fact of nature even older than marriage.

Same-sex marriage soon became a reality in America — first by court and legislative action in such states as Massachusetts, New York and Iowa, and more recently by popular vote in such states as Washington and Maine. Tens of thousands of couples have been lawfully joined, and the sky has yet to fall. Nor have churches been forced to recognize civil marriages of which they disapprove.

For Wolfson, who founded the advocacy group Freedom to Marry in 2003, these two factors, “lived experience and generational change,” have moved same-sex marriage from the lunatic fringe toward a surging consensus. Though traditionalists called a March for Marriage in Washington to coincide with the Supreme Court hearings, Michael May of Cleveland was badly outnumbered as he silently raised his placard: every child deserves a mom & dad. He said he was hopeful that the movement could be stopped. But then he added, “I don’t know.”

Before the Justices
The cases now before the Supreme Court may tie the threads up neatly, or they may be another step on a longer path. In Hollingsworth v. Perry, four California voters are seeking to reverse a lower-court ruling that threw out a ban on same-sex marriage. U.S. v. Windsor, meanwhile, challenges the use of DOMA to deny federal benefits to legally married same-sex couples. Edith Schlain Windsor is an elderly New York lesbian who married her longtime partner in Canada in 2007. After her partner’s death in 2009, Windsor sued the federal government over having to pay $363,000 in estate taxes that an opposite-sex spouse would not be required to pay.

In both cases, Kennedy, the author of Romer and Lawrence, sits at the fulcrum between liberal and conservative blocs. And a decisive outcome is by no means certain. Perhaps the only Justice who fully tipped his hand was Scalia, still plainly in dissent from earlier gay-rights decisions. “When,” he demanded of former solicitor general Theodore Olson, “did it become unconstitutional to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? 1791? 1868, when the 14th Amendment was adopted?”

Olson, the conservative lawyer who argued for George W. Bush in 2000, is yet another of the Americans whose opposition to same-sex marriage has turned to solid support. But he had trouble satisfying Scalia’s demand for the particular moment.

“When?” Scalia repeated. “When did that happen?”

At last, Olson had to give the only answer possible — the true answer in a country where people are free to change their minds. “There’s no specific date in time,” he said of the many-threaded story. “This is an evolutionary cycle.”

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JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

Still who here is gonna try to use logic on Christians? rember Christians know more about logic than you because zombie lord jesus says so.. 


JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

@NickDubson @JustinSmith1 OH DEAR JESUS! MAY WE PRAY THAT YOU COME BACK TO THIS WORLD WITH YOUR ZOMBIE HORDE! AND MAGICAL JEW POWERS TO TAKE OVER AMERICA! MAY YOUR ZOMBIE HORDE FEAST ON THE BRAINS OF EVERYONE! AND MAY WE REMBER TO HOLD ON TO TWINKIES SO NO SNOW BALLS HAPPEN! EH MEN!

NickDubson
NickDubson

I Like how NO ONE has given a real reason why gay people shouldn't get married besides GOD THIS AND GOD THAT AND JESUS THIS AND JESUS THAT. Give ONE Good reason that has nothing to do with religion. 

JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

@NickDubson Because christians shove 2 things down peoples throat, Religion to evveryone.. And a 12 inch dick down a 8 year old alter boys throat... Rember by christian laws its okay.. 

RobinLindsaySprouse
RobinLindsaySprouse

Why is it that no matter how many times freedom of religion is cited, no matter how many times we tell you gays are born gay, no matter how many times your own bigotry is not justification for inequality, you still use the same tired excuses to oppose gay marriage?we have an equal protection clause in our constitution. Religion is irrelevant. There are Jews, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists...and you want them to adhere to your religion. And you use your religion to promote bigotry. And it's only Christians. The verses you quote in the bible about homosexuality are Jewish law. Jesus said nothing about gays. And if you want to use Leviticus as law today, you better not have your period, fornicate, lie, worship false idols (I'm talking to you, all non Christians), adulter, have your period, eat shellfish, get a tattoo, or wear polycotton blends. "Under god" and "in god we trust" were added to our pledge of allegiance and our money respectively.

Homosexual behavior is exhibited in all sexual species on earth. People are born gay, they don't become gay. 10% of human males are born gay. 6% of human females are born gay. You're more likely to be gay if you're left handed than right handed. People get divorced. People cheat. People have babies out of wedlock. People grow up in broken homes with one parent or no parents. Some couples can't have babies. Some choose not to. That is no reason to discriminate against them and their choice to raise children in a marriage or not so it's no reason to discriminate against gays. Straight people have gay children. Being raised by gay parents won't make the kids gay too.

You read article after article, you hear judge after judge strike down bans because they're unconstitutional, and you still don't actually listen. Everythng you're saying about gay marriage is wrong. And repeating your wholly illogical and irrational unfounded arguments against it won't make them true. Every reason you have ever had to be against it has been disproven or dismissed. The same bans are going stuck down for the same reasons, and the same arguments keep coming up to support the ban. They are being struck down, one by one. All for the same reasons because your reasons to support the ban are unconstitutional, irrelevant, and purely motivated by bigotry under the guise of Christianity. It has only been Christians in America that I have seen argue against gay marriage. Surely you don't expect the courts to impose Christian style sharia law do you?

ChrisCook
ChrisCook

Why should the United States of America continue to be One Nation Under God if it is rewarding people for going against his word.?

TreyCato
TreyCato

@RobinLindsaySprouse 

it wasn’t until 1954 that the phrase “under God” was actually added to our pledge, in a response to the threat of communism.

docstu
docstu

Suppose we take a step back from religion for just a moment. Look at the state of our nation. I would like to call it a great nation, but look at it. The laws of God aside, we have transgressed the laws of the economy. We have transgressed the laws of sociology. We have transgressed the laws of health. Whether or not you believe in a God who created the laws of nature, you have to admit that America is in a state of outright disobedience. Our health, economy, and society are moving towards a collapse. God does not punish sinners. Justice punishes them by the laws of nature. Truth is truth no matter how well an intelligent person can twist it with words. The law of our existence was not created by men or God. It is truth so transcendent that it extends past both of those concepts. Our existence continues by procreation, and Gay Marriage damns that continuation in a literal sense. It is not opinion, It is not science, It is truth, the very law of eternity, and I dare anyone to try and poke a verbal hole in that fact. 

gremlint
gremlint

Why would the state want to grant marriage licenses to homosexual couples? What BENEFIT TO SOCIETY could be so great as to warrant such recognition and reward?

THERE IS NONE. Homosexual unions are relatively worthless to society.

The state has no obligation to bronze you a medal for being in love — no matter how narcissistic you are. Marriage is not a soup kitchen for lovers.

The long-established definition of marriage is the union between a man and a woman — a husband and a wife. For those who want to CHANGE that definition, the onus is on them to explain what the FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE of this "new and improved" marriage would be.

Something is fundamental when it forms a NECESSARY base or core. A fundamental purpose of marriage is one that necessitates the existence of the institution — especially when only marriage fulfills that purpose.

What is the fundamental purpose of marriage?

Why does the state care about the unions of couples?

In their extreme self-centeredness, homosexual activists (and their fawning acolytes) are utterly clueless about such crucial questions.

RobinLindsaySprouse
RobinLindsaySprouse

Why is it that no matter how many times freedom of religion is cited, no matter how many times we tell you gays are born gay, no matter how many times your own bigotry is not justification for inequality, you still use the same tired excuses to oppose gay marriage?we have an equal protection clause in our constitution. Religion is irrelevant. There are Jews, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists...and you want them to adhere to your religion. And you use your religion to promote bigotry. And it's only Christians. The verses you quote in the bible about homosexuality are Jewish law. Jesus said nothing about gays. And if you want to use Leviticus as law today, you better not have your period, fornicate, lie, worship false idols (I'm talking to you, all non Christians), adulter, have your period, eat shellfish, get a tattoo, or wear polycotton blends. "Under god" and "in god we trust" were added to our pledge of allegiance and our money respectively.

Homosexual behavior is exhibited in all sexual species on earth. People are born gay, they don't become gay. 10% of human males are born gay. 6% of human females are born gay. You're more likely to be gay if you're left handed than right handed. People get divorced. People cheat. People have babies out of wedlock. People grow up in broken homes with one parent or no parents. Some couples can't have babies. Some choose not to. That is no reason to discriminate against them and their choice to raise children in a marriage or not so it's no reason to discriminate against gays. Straight people have gay children. Being raised by gay parents don't make the kids gay too.

You rad article after article, you hear judge after judge strike down bans because they're unconstitutional, and you still don't actually listen. Everythng you're saying about gay marriage is wrong. And repeating your wholly illogical and irrational unfounded arguments against it won't make them true. Every reason you have ever had to be against it has been disproven or dismissed. The same bans are going stuck down for the same reasons, and the same arguments keep coming up to support the ban. They are being struck down, one by one. All for the same reasons because your reasons to support the ban are unconstitutional, irrelevant, and purely motivated by bigotry under the guise of Christianity. It has only been Christians in America that I have seen argue against gay marriage. Surely you don't expect the courts to impose Christian style sharia law do you?

Marriage does not exist to serve any societal benefit. It's a legal contract that comes with more than 1100 benefits. To deny an entire group of people the right to equal recognition of their marriage and the benefits that go along with it just because they are gay is discrimination. atheists get married too. Interracial marriage was illegal until 1967. Polygamy was legal int he bible. A rape victim had to marry her rapist. Fathers sold their daughters into marriage. Why do straight people want to get married if they can't have kids? Or choose not to have kids? Why should people get married if they already have kids out of wedlock? What purpose does marriage serve for those straight people? Why do you as a straight person want to get married? Some strait people don't.

A fundamental right is a basic, human, unalienable right. It does not harm others, it is not a privilege. Anyone can get married. Just like anyone can practice whatever religion they want. Or yay whatever they want. Or carry a gun. or vote.

JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

@gremlint Christianity has created these issues by trying to live in the 1950s. Im preety sure if as a american if i can bitch about the goverment online, Get fat off fast food, Bitch about not having everything i want, Im in a good country lol..

TreyCato
TreyCato

@gremlint First & Foremost government should not be involved in marriage, Marriage should be left up to the states. Secondly Marriage should be done by the local communities & states there should be no tax benefit to it period government should be OUT of marriage. Homosexuals like any other are humans just like you they have rights just like you.

Third of all same-sex union was known in Ancient Greece and Rome, Also in Mesopotamia & in some regions of China, such as Fujian province, and at certain times in ancient European history & These same-sex unions continued until Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire. A law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) was issued in 342 AD by the Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans, which prohibited same-sex marriage in ancient Rome and ordered that those who were so married were to be executed.

Know your history! your definition of marriage isn't true.

JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

@TreyCato @gremlint I would post a real repsone but debating with a christian is like debating with a terrorest.. It goes no where and usauly ends in a war. 

cloudninegirl
cloudninegirl

I am sick about what's happening in America. Everyday it gets worse, and I admit I have despaired because evil is winning. Good people fight and fight and fight to keep evil from advancing, but it seems to do no good these days. I honestly can't remember the last time good won over evil in this country. My goal now is to keep God on the throne, no matter what I see and hear. HE IS ALL-POWERFUL and can defeat any evil spreading through America if he wants to. I will continue to fight evil, but I will also respect God's will and wait for him to bring change. If the liberal agenda has truly broken our beautiful America once and for all, and she is forever doomed to reap what the liberals have sown, then I KNOW THAT GOD WILL PROTECT ME NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE I AM HIS. God will protect his people, even when evil rules and reigns. Remember that, and do not despair when you see evil win. Know that evil never really wins in the end. Keep following God and keep looking to him - honor God, obey his Word, and praise him. Remember too to keep fighting evil when you can, BUT don't dwell on it and let it consume you with anger and bitterness. If you let evil make you bitter and angry, then evil has not only won in America, but it has won in your heart too. Life really IS beautiful, and no matter how evil advances in this world, there is STILL beauty all around you. It is in the smile of a child, the laughter of a friend, the kindness of a stranger, and the warm sun on your face. REMEMBER THE BEAUTY IN LIFE, FOR IT IS A GIFT FROM GOD.

MSKIABS
MSKIABS

there is also homosexuality in the animal kingdom. So if it is so unnatural, than why does it appear so much?


MSKIABS
MSKIABS

for those over religious people who think gay marriage is punishable by god:

you beleive that your god created all men, right?  The god you worship then also created homosexuals. But, you say homosexuals shall be tortured by god because of their views. So, the god you worship creates certain people just to punish and torture them. then, you beleive in evil, YOU practically worship the DEVIL. your beleifs contradict themselves.

(And this was said by a 12 year old, so go suck on Jesus' ****!)

MccartBrenda
MccartBrenda


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OneTwoThreeSmile
OneTwoThreeSmile

It's really interesting. I'm a 90's baby. I'm growing up in this new age of technology and social media. I can tell you- most kids don't care about sexuality anymore, and if they do, they just keep it to themselves. Most Christians I know who are my age are friends with gay kids. I'm a gay Christian myself. Many of us are tired of seeing all the adults fight and make terrible decisions because we're the ones who are going to be living in this world in the next 30-50 years while all of you are dead or dying.

Normal gay people don't want to force their views down anybody's throats. They just want to go out on dates and hold hands in public without being harassed or treated like a subhuman species. And honestly, if you saw the sexual behavior of straight teenage high school boys nowadays, you would NOT be saying that homosexuality is promiscuous. Maybe you should figure out what your kids are getting into when you're not watching before figuring out what somebody ELSE is doing, gay or not.

Fact is, when you raise a child their entire life and learn that they've been hiding a part of it from you because they're afraid you'll hurt them and hate them and throw them away, that your child has been living in fear of you because they think you don't wish happiness for them, that they think you won't be at their prom, wedding, baby shower, all of it because of their orientation, it breaks your heart.

When God blesses you with a happy, healthy child, it's everything you can do to make sure they know you love them. Parents of gay children: don't turn your back on them. They need you now more than ever in a world that doesn't want them in it.

JerryDouglasSheppard
JerryDouglasSheppard

Actually it is far more than 60%, since homosexuality is a choice. Homosexuals are not born that way. If people argue that they are, then I would love to see the evidence for that. Two people of the same gender coming together in the bonds of marriage is by definition "unnatural." It is a moral issue that will affect everybody. Just think about a gay couple having children. Who are these dear children going to call mom and who are they going to call dad? When the poor children has either two dads or two moms. It is moral confusion. It is also rebellion against God's natural order of things (see Genesis 2:18-25; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:9-10; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13). According to history, many of the great empires of the past such as the Roman Empire, the Greek Empire, and the Babylonian Empire, etc were marked by rampant homosexuality, bestiality, and pedophilia just prior to their fall. North America is now ripe for God's judgment as well, for Canada and the USA are no different than these empires of the past in our foolishly wide acceptance of homosexuality. As the old cliche puts it, "Those who fail to learn from the past are destined to repeat it." And that is exactly what we are doing. Now having said that. Yes, God does LOVE GAY PEOPLE as much as He loves Straight people. He loves gay people so much that He doesn't want them to stay that way. For such people Christ came to die for. THEY CAN CHANGE. Wake up people!

Hadrewsky
Hadrewsky

@JerryDouglasSheppard 

What if I think your God and Holy Book are useless garbage with less wisdom found within than a Crackerjack Box?

PutresVigil
PutresVigil

"If people argue that they are, then I would love to see the evidence for that."

Science doesn't work that way. There are people who claim to become homosexual but, in all likelihood, they are sexual addicts or (in the case of bisexuals) simply discovering the other side of their sexuality. CT scans show homosexual men have brain structure similar to women (and homosexual women have brain structure similar to men) . As for proof beyond any shadow of doubt, again, that isn't how psychology or science works. Science works within the confines of what we do know rather than what might be true and all evidence points to this being natural. If someone claims to be depressed we don't automatically assume they are lying and kick them out of the office, we speak to them, learn their history, and go from there. Modern psychology has come to the consensus that, for most homosexuals as we understand them, they will be that way forever.

Now for you; why don't you prove your interpretation of your Bible is right. If you interpretation is correct then why do so many biblical scholars disagree with you then? Almost no bible scholar agrees that the Bible ever references homosexuality in it's modern form - they are referencing pagan practices of the time. You claim great empires fall due to homosexuality but as far as I am concerned, unless you have peer reviewed evidence that such is the case then I am declaring that point a hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy at best. And don't argue that infallibility of scripture as it is written nonsense either - if you believe that you are either a Calvinist, a fool, or a hypocrite. You can't have both free will and God subsuming the free will of prophets and using them like big typewriters; that is logically untenable. 

In addition, if that is the way it works, why are there so many churches? Wouldn't a perfect, simple to understand truth that is clear cut have only one church? Why so many bible scholars and theologians? Why does a supposedly perfect-as-it-is text need apologists to explain it? Why can I write something more clearly than God can? Isn't your God perfect? Why am I a superior writer to your God?

I happen to be a homosexual male myself. I am hardly fit to be lumped with pedophiles and animal abusers as I have always craved romantic closeness and love, not mere gratification. I have longed for cuddling, nuzzling, and the softer side of human connection from another who is capable of giving it in return - it is not my fault I am who I am and I have longed for my own gender for as long as I can remember back. If that makes me evil then it is an evil I am not responsible and (if you are correct) I will go to hell with clean conscience, knowing that I was not in the wrong. Better to be excommunicated than live in violation of good. I doubt that is the case, though - I am betting that the altar of human greatness at which you worship is is just another false idol.

Hadrewsky
Hadrewsky

@JerryDouglasSheppard 

Another problem I have with the "It's a choice" angle.... why is it that faith based recovery centers for gays always fail... why is it that gays cant be turned straight? And above all what is so far up the butts of the religious that they cannot see their own failures?

fernie1213
fernie1213

It is not "unnatural". We also don't know why some people are left-handed. No left handed gene has been found, however it's most likely the result of complex genetics. Same probably goes for homosexuality. Btw, homosexuality, and the life long bonding (not just sexual intercourse) occurs all over nature. Thousands of species actually. And siting the bible? Really?

JustinSmith1
JustinSmith1

@fernie1213 Im pretty sure worshiping magic zombie jews is more unhealthy than having gay sex.. Atleast to your psychology. 

TreyCato
TreyCato

@Hadrewsky It does have a lot of wisdom in it the problem is christians seem to ignore the actual wisdom that can help you grow as a human being & as a society together. They ignore the healthy parts of the bible. They dwell upon Bible teachings on slavery and subjugation of women, remnants of Biblical-era culture homosexuality etc & they deny the fact that jesus rebuked all of that. They ignore this verse right here. "Matthew 7:1-3 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Christians forget is that god gives you free will to chose as you wish (According to the bible), Matthew 11:15, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. In other words those who will become christans will listen to you & those who are of other religions have already made their chose so what if the point in scolding them if they've already made their chose?

jamiat33
jamiat33

In-sahAllah in the hereafter you will see that homosexuality is a lost in this life as well as the hereafter.--Homosexual Marriage will never win

anniemarieECWI
anniemarieECWI

There are many people, including myself, who believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people. I believe these rights should extend to the legal privileges of marriage. If a man loves another man, he should be able to inherit his partners' belongings if he were to die suddenly. He should be able to hold his hand in the hospital room when his life is on the line. Two lesbians spending their lives together shouldn't have to be on separate insurance plans. However, I believe that a change is needed in terminology to legitimize the rights of same-sex couples; when gay men or lesbians join together under the law, don't call it marriage.


The gay marriage impetus maintains that it is unfair to intermingle law with religion, that it isn't right to force one single moral code upon the entire citizenry. They say that arguing that God didn't create Adam and Steve is a religious belief and cannot be used to justify condemning same-sex marriage. However, what they meant was that Adam and Eve or Steve or the Bible in general isn't legal reason to condemn same-sex relationships. Marriage is a religious term. Marriage is based on religion. Marriage has a religious definition that long ago was inducted into the United States law. The Bible created a definition for marriage. Obviously, many people disagree with this definition. So, another word that has the definition so many people desire needs to be created, and then anyone can enjoy a legal partnership that has all the benefits of traditional marriage. However, changing the definition of a word that is based on a religion by which one simply wish not to be governed is hypocritical and unlawful.


God loves all people regardless of the labels of gay, straight, bisexual and transgender. He created us in His image with the intention of giving us the gift of strong minds and kind hearts, hoping that we would one day learn to treat all humans respectfully. However, God didn't make marriage between two men or two women. Call it something other than marriage, and there is no problem. If religion should not interfere with a person's rights, then a person should not demand rights under a sacred religious word. No person should ever feel entitled to changing the definition of a word of religion unless he or she wishes to have religion be entitled to the same governing abilities.


This is an issue of equality under the law, not of marriage.

DavidBorsani
DavidBorsani

So Happy the Retardicans lost and Obama is on our side!  Gay Rights are coming to a town near you.  God Bless the USA!   The constitution is on our side.  Equality, liberty and Justice for all! 

KingratRat
KingratRat

The thought of Gay marriage just sickens me to my core, it equates to seeing human and animal sex, it is wrong, it is just wrong.If gay marriage is so right, then we might as well through out the Bible, the Koran, and any other religious edict, for as people, we are lost and we will pay for are Transgressions as a whole.The Idea of America, the land of the free and the brave started out as a nice dream, but then there was that slavery thing, and then we killed most of the Indians and now we have gay marriage.Someone once said that America was blesses, who and what would bless America, surely not God.

KingratRat
KingratRat

The thought of Gay marriage just sickens me to my core, it equates to seeing human and animal sex, it is wrong, it is just wrong.

If gay marriage is so right, then we might as well through out the Bible, the Koran, and any other religious edict, for as people, we are lost and we will pay for are Transgressions as a whole.

The Idea of America, the land of the free and the brave started out as a nice dream, but then there was that slavery thing, and then we killed most of the Indians and now we have gay marriage.

Someone once said that America was blesses, who and what would bless America, surely not God.

Libtards-UNITE
Libtards-UNITE

I like the pictures of the girls kissing much more.

Annoymous
Annoymous

I would like to point out the age approval gap, and that I think this article is sooo, true simply because of age. what most homophobes forget is that sooner or later everyone dies. As a 16 year old, personally see where the future generation is headed, and right now it is so "like, I don't care-people do what they do". Us, the young people the future, we DON'T care. Its your life, do what you want, we may have our preferences but you can have yours. There are exceptions to everything, young people both in favor and against, but the majority, don't think its our business. Relevant only in that Marriage is in fact a religious thing and has been forever, but now its also a state thing and as such needs to be separated from our traditional (American) catholic views. After all thousands of people in the Middle East have HORRIBLE laws for there women. They even have multiple wives, all of which (better be) against everything we are taught here in the U.S again, OLDER PEOPLE ARE OUTDATED, we don't wear out fits from the 60's, why are we still supporting views and thoughts from it? SO I agree with this article, the Gay rights movement doesn't need to lift a finger, time will uncover everything.

GospelLifeNow
GospelLifeNow

On what do you base your morality, biology, emotion, or the created order? 

A time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They'll follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. (2 Tim 4:3)

demonicyin11
demonicyin11

Now don’t get me wrong, some gays probably do throw it in your face. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen two straight people going at it in a hallway where they seriously would need a room though. BAM!!! Thrown in my face but in reality I’m not a huge baby about it because I DON’T CARE. The point is homosexuals won’t ruin marriage and peoples’ ignorance is hurting me. I’m a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and I’ve almost been kicked out 3 times yet have been the Best Warrior of my unit. Why? Because I am awesome and what I do in the bedroom has no effect on how I contribute to society. The marriage thing…it is about the benefits that go with it…duh. We are like…all raised to go to school, get a job and someday get married. Hey look, that is traditional!!! I would like to someday marry a girl…since I was 5 and do you know how horrifying that is as a child to know that when you grow up in a world so opposed to it. I don’t know how many times I’ve been beat up for it and for what? Ignorance? Guess what peeps, you have NO idea who I am and if they legalize “gay” marriage you will also NEVER know if I get married. So, what does it really matter?

demonicyin11
demonicyin11

You know, this is freaking hilarious. Let me tell you what I want. I don’t want to force my homosexual ways on anyone. I want to be myself. I don’t flaunt my gayness around, I act exactly the way straight people do in public with their significant others. I don’t want “gay” marriage. I want to be able to marry the person I love because I freaking deploy all the time serving my country, giving up my freedoms for others, and just want to know my significant other is taken care of. Wow, that seems normal doesn’t it? You know, all the wants and needs of an individual is exactly the same up to the point of who it is with, whether they are same-sex or hetero. That is what I find so hilarious is ONE, minor difference. The argument that gay families will make more gay people… You do realize I come from a heterosexual family right? You want to protect the traditional sense of marriage, here is an idea. 1) How about you start fighting against divorce. 2) Maybe shows like the Bachelor or shows that display how insane brides are up to the wedding shouldn’t be aired on television. You want to talk about a mockery of marriage. 3) How about you tell me how valid and traditional marriages are that are done in Vegas between two people that got hitched in a drunken night. Yep, that holds down the sanctity of marriage firmly.