Parsing Jeb II

Jeb Bush’s book not only rekindles the war within the GOP over amnesty and immigration; it sets up 2016 to be a potentially bruising primary with his friend Marco Rubio. UPDATE: Rubio responds.

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Republican Senate candidate Marco Rubio shakes hands with former Florida Governor Jeb Bush as he celebrates his victory at a rally in Coral Gables, Florida November 2, 2010.

If you’d asked anyone in Washington last week which Florida Republican was a frontrunner for the 2016 presidential nomination, the answer would be obvious: Marco Rubio. Just three weeks ago this magazine, perhaps with just a bit of its tongue in its cheek, named Rubio “The Republican Savior.”

This week, Rubio seems to have picked up some competition from someone nearly everyone thought was an ally.

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who helped Rubio get elected to the Senate in 2010, this week came out with a book on immigration, entitled Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution. In it, Bush (along with Clint Bolick, his co-author) seems to take out a position on immigration to Rubio’s right, opposing a path to citizenship for adult illegal immigrants in the United States.

Rubio, a Cuban American whose signature issue has been immigration reform, last month came out in support of a path to citizenship.

Bush seemed unbothered by this dividing line while promoting the book on television on Tuesday, saying his plan was just a first offer and that if congressional negotiators come up with a proposal that includes amnesty he would support it as long as the penalties for those who acted illegally were stiff enough. “If you can craft that in law, where you can have a path to citizenship where there isn’t an incentive for people to come illegally, I’m for it,” he said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “I don’t have a problem with it. I don’t see you how you do it, but I’m not smart enough to figure out every aspect of a really complex law.”

Bush also said the book was written with Bolick last year at a time when most of the Republican Party was dead set against allowing any illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S. His plan not only allows children who entered the country illegally a path to citizenship, it gives permanent residency – though not citizenship — to their parents and other undocumented adults. His thinking, he said, was to soften the ground for the Party to move to the center on the issue.

Maybe so. In the meantime, though, Rubio had already made the leap to amnesty – at least for the moment. Under his plan, which has formed the basis for legislation being hashed out by the Gang of 8 in the Senate, undocumented immigrants could earn citizenship following a long wait – from 10 to 15 years — and a series of stiff fines so as to discourage future illegal immigration.

Bush’s book not only rekindles the war within the GOP over amnesty and immigration; it sets up 2016 to be a potentially bruising primary, even amongst friends.

Update

Sen. Marco Rubio to Politico today about Jeb Bush’s new book:

I think we’re still in the same place in terms of not wanting there to be a special advantage for people who have broken the law. What I understand he’s outlined…is kind of something I thought about for a long time and ultimately concluded that it probably isn’t good for the country to have millions of people here who are permanently barred [from] even applying for citizenship…It’s been a disaster for Europe.

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IfeanyiUrigwe
IfeanyiUrigwe

Jeb Bush shouldn't be writing a book on any topic pertaining to immigration, a field he knows little or nothing of.  This is a story we need to hear from the horses’ mouth.  Well documented immigrants, should be informing America and the world of what goes on in the immigration world.  Immigrants who are not ready to skew the story to their own favor should be helping others understand this topic.  This will lead societies into making the right decisions concerning immigration and immigrants.  Growing resentments against immigrants is all because of misinformation peddled by uninformed communicators. 

I speak from an experienced point of view.  I have lived in several countries across the globe.  After all my ordeals, illicit trades, I am neither in support nor against immigration.  I would however opine that societies make their immigration laws based on whether or not it is beneficial to them.

My book, ‘Evicted from My Space’, (at leading online bookstores) to me, should be a paraphernalia to governments and individuals who want to delve into the secret places of an immigrant.  

mydads1st
mydads1st

Jeb Bush was for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers before he was against it. Bush sounds just like Romney, Perry and all the other TEA-quest-traitors maneuvering around immigration reform which was caused by previous presidents and Mexico during the "Bracero Program" from 1942 until 1964. Farmers and ranchers called for cheap labor and now many have been here long enough to have grandchildren as basis for allowing them full citizenship. It's the combative and confrontational TEA-types who do not want inclusion or a pathway. Why? Because most would vote Democratic after the recent TEA-Republican primary. Every politician carrying the (R) is suspect in their eyes, even though most have conservative thoughts and views. TEA-Republican's have made their views noted during the primary and all the back-stepping isn't going to change on d--- thing! No matter how many hurdles are placed in front of them, undocumented workers will stay for their children who are already citizens. Wait long enough and there will be fewer TEA-types to vote out of office. Time to remove the combative TEA-types! V-O-T-E - -Vote Out The Encumbrances!

LindaKarlsson
LindaKarlsson

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Google : "ethnic british minority 2066" -Telegrap
Google : "London white minority 2012" -Telegrap/BBC
Google : "White usa minority 2042" -US census bureau.
Google "ethnic Russian minority 2050" -Finish defence department

drudown
drudown

As much as I am disinclined to agree with (drudown, I can write this) a member of the Bush family, tell me, where exactly (1) in the Constitution and/or (2) Supreme Court precedent can support the proposition of amnesty for citizens of another sovereign coming here illegally such that they magically transmute into US citizens? One can only surmise it is some perverse, and yet unfounded, construction of adverse possession. 

The proposition that there is a "path for citizenship" is one that I would like to see the authority for. What, if a US citizen were to illegally immigrate to Canada, China, Russia or the UAE...they too, can have a self-perceived "right" for some (as yet) undefined "path to citizenship"? That's how ridiculous this "immigration reform" debate has become. There is no corollary in the entire rule of law here or anywhere else.  

Taken to its illogical conclusion, a rising star prosecutor in San Diego faces jail time for "fixing a ticket" but 11,000,000-20,000,000+ people that came here breaking the law are going to pardoned en masse?

(sigh.)

Yes, that is something that will never pass Strict Scrutiny in the Supreme Court because it is void ab initio.


"Truth fears no trial." - Thomas Fuller, MD 

Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

I hope this doesn't mean we have to start the Jeb Bush flip flop drinking game so early in the campaign.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

After a paragraph excoriating the whole family from Poppy down which I quoted in Morning Reads, Charlie Pierce reminds us of another star in Jeb's crown.  

"Seriously, do we have to delude ourselves about these people every 20 years forever? (The grandkids are already warming up in the bullpen.) You want to know all you need to know about Jeb (!)? Go back to the Terri Schiavo fiasco, when, as governor, he contributed mightily to the rancid effort to convert one family's tragedy into his own personal political advantage. In doing so, he helped fuel a frenzy that literally put people's lives in danger. (Hospice workers took to taking different routes home every night. Local judges were assigned their own personal federal marshals. An elementary school down the block from the hospice where Terri was living had to be closed because of bomb threats that the FBI took very seriously.) At one point, it looked like the Florida state patrol and the local police in Tampa might get tangled up in a stand-off. This was the price of Jeb (!)'s ambition, and he comes by it honestly. It's the family business, after all."


Read more  http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Passion_Of_The_Jeb_(!)#ixzz2MhJh6jb9

notsacredh
notsacredh

"Bush’s book not only rekindles the war within the GOP over amnesty and immigration; it sets up 2016 to be a potentially bruising primary, even amongst friends."

Oh, the sights we'll see.



 

AfGuy
AfGuy

" Vote Bush 2016 - so I can FINALLY show up for family gatherings with a number for a nick-name like my dad and idiot older brother..."

Alternate slogan... "Last chance to complete the family political dynasty before the party completely implodes..."

grape_crush
grape_crush

So the GOP Flavor-Savior-of-the-Month of March is Jebbie?

How many more batters until we start over at the top of the rotation?

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

This quote from Comedy Central said it best:

"You'll know Jeb Bush is seriously considering a 2016 presidential run when he files paperwork to change his last name."

drudown
drudown

@IfeanyiUrigwe 

As an aside, you seem to take a curiously simplistic approach to a very, very complicated issue here in America. What relevance does citing alleged "misinformation" or criticizing straw man "uniformed communicators" to the undisputed fact that illegal immigration creates penal, educational, judicial and health care COSTS for the US taxpayers- we are talking BILLIONS of dollars that we simply don't have right now. 

I just want to know how why the US taxpayers have to provide a social safety net for people seeking a better life elsewhere? There are other options, e.g., sovereigns working in good faith to create new infrastructure and services in the countries that people seem hell bent on leaving. 

drudown
drudown

@IfeanyiUrigwe 

Why don't simply explain who the bears the COST of illegal immigration HERE in America? I'm all for lawful immigration. But 'lifeboat ethics' works and is. 

Secondly, the precepts of Sovereignty must be respected. It is a fundamental tenet of Western Jurisprudence and that precedent is mandatory authority here in our jurisdiction. 

paoligarcy
paoligarcy

@mydads1st  YEA! TIME FOR LA RECONQUISTA!  GIVE US CITIZENSHIP! Then we can secede and rejoin Mexico!

paoligarcy
paoligarcy

@LindaKarlsson  Of course, it's "kill Whitey".   What's hilarious is that so many Democrats demonize Texans for wanting to secede, but they can't see that if they legalize the 12 million Mexicans in the US illegally, that California will be MAJORITY dual citizens who are also Mexican citizens, which means they could vote in California to secede and join Mexico and then they could drive down to Mexico and vote there.

Basically they get to vote in both countries since they are dual citizens. Hilarious.

So if the Texans don't secede now, in 50 years they'll secede, just as a Spanish-named Republic (there once was one named after the Rio Grande), or will secede and join Mexico.

paoligarcy
paoligarcy

@drudown The entire Bush family is in favor of citizenship. Jeb Bush is just trying to curry favor before the primaries and testing to see if the GOP base will buy his lies. I suspect not. I'm sure he has people even watching the comments checking for conservatives to see if they buy this or not.

 If he gets elected as King Bush III (we are ruled by the Clinton-Bush dynasty), then he will issue his royal decree for amnesty.

paoligarcy
paoligarcy

@sacredh  This is B.S. nobody I know in the GOP listens to Jeb Bush. The only way it "rekindles the war" is if the media succeeds in doing so, not if Jeb says anything.


This is propaganda and anyone who can't see this is blind.

notsacredh
notsacredh

Elder Bush: Please God, if Jeb wins, don't let him be the worst Bush ever to be president.

AfGuy
AfGuy

@grape_crush 

The last Presidential campaign set the standard for comedy gold. The GOP hasn't plumbed the depths of their available "minor leaguers" yet... at least the ones that haven't been chased by laughter and copious amounts of rotten fruit...

JNSmall
JNSmall moderator

@Sparrow55 I can't decide if a Bush/Clinton redux in 2016 would excite me or make me shudder.

JNS

Ohiolib
Ohiolib

@AfGuy @grape_crush Give them time. If the "we need mur purity" faction wins out, we could get santorum or huckabee as the nominee....

Sparrow55
Sparrow55

@JNSmall @Sparrow55 Considering how badly W tarnished the Bush name, I'm surprised Jeb is even being mentioned as a potential candidate in 2016.  I too have mixed feelings about a Bush/Clinton redux, but I don't think it will happen.  I think the GOP base has had enough of moderate (by their standards) candidates pretending to be conservative in the primaries and then trying to pivot back towards the center during the general election.  We will probably see a true hardcore conservative Tea Party favorite at the top of the GOP ticket in 2016.  

notsacredh
notsacredh

I'm sorry. I really am. The liberal in me says "Shut UP!", but the sexist pig in me says "Either way, we get a Bush in the White House".

paoligarcy
paoligarcy

@Sparrow55   His majesty Jeb Bush ("the third"), is merely sending out his heralds (the press) to put out feelers for if the public will buy his flip-flop and to gauge reaction from the conservative base.

 Their royal highnesses in the Clinton dynasty are very careful to make sure they appear to be seperate from the Bush family... even though H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton slept together (while touring Asia during the tsunami) and despite the Bush's calling Bill "our son".

notsacredh
notsacredh

They've lost 5 out of the last 6 popular votes. Clinton, Clinton, Gore. (Bush took 2nd term popular vote), Obama, Obama.

hivemaster
hivemaster

@Sparrow55 @JNSmall The shrinking GOP base isn't big enough to elect a president any more.  The GOP has lost 3 out of the last 4 popular votes.  They need to try something new.

AfGuy
AfGuy

Does snickering about this for a bit too long make me a bad person?