On Immigration, Conservative Mastermind Kris Kobach Is Not Backing Down

Kobach, the architect of Arizona's SB 1070, opposes amnesty for undocumented workers.

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Kris Kobach stands outside the United States Courthouse in Dallas, Texas, in June, 2009.
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Kris Kobach stands outside the United States Courthouse in Dallas, Texas, in June, 2009.

Beltway Republicans who think an immigration-reform bill is going to bring Latino voters to the GOP need to think again, says Kris Kobach—not that the insiders are in much of a mood to listen to him these days. The Kansas conservative is a driving force behind efforts to crack down on undocumented immigrants, and some analysts blame him and his movement for the shellacking Mitt Romney received as the party’s standard bearer in November. Is this the man who got Barack Obama re-elected?

“It is a gross oversimplification of the issue to say that Republicans just need to be in favor of amnesty and suddenly we will win half the Latino vote,” Kobach said during a recent interview with TIME in the spacious office he occupies as Kansas’ Secretary of State. “And it’s an insult to Latino voters, who actually make their decisions for all sorts of complex reasons: the economy, social policy, the way the party’s message is conveyed.”

But if Democrats “have done a masterful job of conveying the idea that Republicans are hostile to immigrants,” as Kobach puts it, his work on tighter enforcement of immigration laws has given them much of their ammunition. As a consultant to various state governments, Kobach is the mastermind of bills like Arizona’s SB 1070, which gives authority to state and local police officers to check the immigration status of people they encounter in their daily rounds. Critics of the laws say they amount to racial profiling—though last year that provision of the Arizona law survived a Supreme Court challenge.

(MORE: Q&A: Kris Kobach, the Legal Mind Behind Arizona’s Immigration Law)

Now the 46-year-old lawyer, educated at Harvard, Oxford and Yale, is pursuing a lawsuit in his spare time on behalf of 10 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who are challenging the Obama Administration’s authority to allow children of unlawful immigrants to remain in the country by Executive Order. A U.S. district court in Texas recently ruled that the suit can move forward; a hearing on the merits of the challenge is expected to be held by mid-March.

In other words, politicians in Washington may talk as if the immigration issue is headed to a solution, but in the trenches, the fight continues. Kobach says he hears nothing but encouragement from conservative legislators, activists and strategists as he pushes ahead with his agenda. He gives the formal package endorsed by Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio and others a “less than 50% chance” of passage—if nothing else, the sheer cost of adding millions of newly legal residents to the already strained government safety net would sink the proposed compromise, Kobach says. And he predicts that the President will watch with dry eyes as it gurgles, preferring to keep the controversy over immigration as a weapon for the 2014 elections.

As the economy continues to struggle for traction, Kobach advises his fellow Republicans to focus on the American workers whose wages are undercut by undocumented labor willing to work for less. He also sees an opportunity to reach legions of recent college graduates who are competing with the children of undocumented immigrants for scarce jobs.

(MORE: Will Immigration Reform Work This Time?)

The son of a Topeka car dealer, Kobach blends the body of a linebacker with the brains of a college professor. (He gave up tenure at the University of Missouri–Kansas City School of Law to serve in statewide elected office.) A protégé of the late Harvard political scientist Samuel Huntington, he was serving as a counsel to then U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft when the 9/11 attacks were launched. His interest in immigration law intensified when he realized that three of the four pilots of the hijacked airplanes had been stopped by police while in the country illegally. “If just one of those officers had immigration information at his fingertips, it might have led to questioning that could have unraveled the plot,” he explains.

In the years since, Kobach says, there have been sporadic efforts to enforce immigration laws more strictly, and where enforcement has been tried—Arizona, for instance—thousands of undocumented residents have chosen to leave the jurisdiction. “People leave if we make it harder for them to break the law,” he says. “Americans should not apologize for believing in the rule of law.”

That includes law-abiding Americans from Hispanic and Asian families who support consistent enforcement of immigration rules, Kobach believes. “Not all voters from immigrant families support amnesty,” he says. “They have a strong sense of ‘Hey—my family had to follow the law. We did it the hard way.’” The challenge for Republicans, he says, is to persuade these voters that the party welcomes their energy and supports their entrepreneurial dreams.

MORE: Jose Antonio Vargas’ Life as an Undocumented Immigrant

32 comments
LindaJoyAdams
LindaJoyAdams

Cornelius. you say Krsi Kobach liedabout some fcts. Well in 9/12, did he lie under oath backin the Ks courtroom in 9/12 when he said why he knew the rpesident was eleigible to be on the ballot since he is th eonly sec fo tte in the usa tt has the reocrds of his birth in Toepka ks.? That would be perjury?

LindaJoyAdams
LindaJoyAdams

Its real strain Cornelius to carry around the heavy burden o the real set of records on the President. His real birth certificate, the death certificate of his murdered Dad from the racist attack on his parents that caused the second set of records to be filed in Hawaii, by his family to save their lives, and the marriage certificate to Obama Sr, plus is staff had said they were going to go get the newspaper announcements articles, too back on 9/14/12 as we searched for the records, then he went into court  and didn't tell the judge anything but that he was eligible but no why he is the only Se of state in the USA who really did n know without question he was. Just another baby never tilted truth of his origins and the big money behind the birther movement has known the truth all along and kept scamming people for money and making money off of moviess and books, etc. Makes it very difficult for any eye witness and there are a lot of them out there as ;everyone' knew in Topeka ks but when the bodies went under the waters of the Kansas river, no one's wanted to talk since and murderers have f gone free for 50+ years.

cornelius
cornelius

Mr Kobach got it all wrong! The terrorists of 9-11 were here legally on F1 or student visas and they came from the Canadian border not Mexico. Apples and oranges, Mr. Kobach. Apples and oranges.

Terrorist DON'T want to live in America because they hate America and think it is evil. Twelve million undocumented immigrants will actually give up their lives to have the opportunity to live in America. Apples and oranges, Mr Kobach. Apples and oranges.

cornelius
cornelius

Mr. Kobach thinks that there will be a strain in the government, welcoming 12 million newly minted legal residents. He is obviously not an economist or a man who knows about money, that is why he just ended up being a lawyer. Three things here. With 12 million newly minted legal residents come these benefits:

1) Let's face it. People will work. It is the nature and right of man to work. They will find a way to feed their families. So with 12 M newly minted legal residents come a W-4 (bec now they are legal). No more hiding in the shadows. Most of these people want to fill up a W-4 but they can't. Now the government can conveniently take out 7.5% out of their paychecks monthly (and we are not even talking about automatic SS deductions, Medicare deductions and other deductions). Now these people will not have to take home the full amount of their pay. So you do the math. Twelve million who fill out a W-4. How much do you think it will help the government collect each month?

2) 12 Million x $350 (filing fee for example we are not even talking fines/penalties and back taxes) = $ 4,200,000,000.00

3) These 12  Million immigrants buy the biggest Ford trucks, buy the biggest homes, spend the most money on groceries because of the biggest families in the neighborhood and spend the most money on stuff that they were deprived of back home. What a boon to businesses and the US economy!


So what STRAIN is Kobach talking about?

cornelius
cornelius

The article states that Kobach's interest in immigration intensified when he 'found out" that three of the four terrorists where here in the US illegally. Two things here. 

1) You got it all wrong Kobach! The terrorist where here legally on F1 or visas. That is why they enrolled in flight schools 

2) Let's separate the terrorists and the 12 million undocumented immigrants we discussing here. The terrorists have one thing and only one thing in mind - to do damage in the US.  The terrorist don't want to live here, work, marry, start a family, have grand kids here and contribute to society in the US. The terrorists DON'T  "want to live" in America. They would rather die first than live in America. To the terrorists mind... America is evil. Now, the 12 Million undocumented immigrants (esp of a certain race) ACTUALLY want to stay here, live here, work here, put down roots here. They are ACTUALLY serious about living here permanently. So Mr. Kobach is barking up the wrong tree!

ekee12
ekee12

Hispanics and Moslems are two constituencies that are tailor made for the Republican party.  They are both intensely religious, conservative, hard-working, family-oriented, and looking to assist the next generation.  Once the Republicans stop kicking them in the teeth, they will start voting Republican.  The Republicans, in the past, delivered the same sort of denunciations--ie kicking them in the teeth-- to Catholics (remember the 1928/1960 campaigns) & European immigrants--and more importantly their children.  These two groups responded by giving the Democrats thundering majorities and permitted the "Roosevelt Coalition" to hold sway for a generation.  Under Ronald Reagan, the Republicans started courting the Catholics & second/third generation immigrants, and lo and behold Catholics now vote Republican in the same numbers as do Protestants.  It's going to be a matter of time.  

Albert254
Albert254

I dont see any Native Americans commenting on this post, therefore we all come from immigrants. People like @anzablazer portray an image racism and paranoia that does not at all represent the character, or ethic that America was founded on. It is a disgrace to have people like that embarrass the traditional ideology of our founding fathers. Sure these people broke the law, but it is law that contradicts the purse of happiness. Which isn't just an inalienable right, but something EVERY single human being should be entitled to. Many of these people are just like Cubans, escaping from a world that doesn't promise any sort of future for their young children besides joining a drug cartel, and eventually being murdered. In a way they are trapped in their country. Things will only get worse if the travel south, to South America. So their only true option is to come here, The United States of America. The same country that welcomed everybody at Ellis Island that lacked religious freedom in their country, or was escaping a potato famine... and now a escaping a country ripped apart by guerrilla mobs, and drug cartels. People need to understand that these "illegal children" don't "steal"anything from anybody. These are children that go through bulling in school for not speaking the same language, that not only have to learn the curriculum, but do it in a foreign language to them. Of course, these problems eventually go away, once they learn english and become social among their peers. But they had no choice in the decision that their parents made, all they know is that everybody speaks english, they don't, but according to their parents, if they succeed in school, they will eventually become successful and productive to society. Many people are not aware of foreign morals, but they are a lot similar to ours: Try your best at something, live a good life, respect others, and you will succeed. And for the most part, they do. But every once in a while people like @anzablazer come along, and disrupt everything. They justify it by "not being scared to follow the law". President Obama might not be handling the economy very well, but I admire his good moral ethics, and his common sense in realizing that the only immigrants that cause a real danger to society, are the ones that deserve top priority in being deported. Not students trying to succeed. Nobodies trying to take over the country. As far as jobs being "stolen" I highly doubt that there would be any legislature GUARANTEEING jobs to Immigrants. In fact, with less Immigrant workers, the threat of competing with cheap labor would become smaller, therefore making it an even playing field. Competition within a society results in greatness as a whole. To earn a job you would have to become better at what you do, and in the long run you will eventually become a better person. 

LindaJoyAdams
LindaJoyAdams

The only Secretary of State that went into court and said President Obama was eligible to be on he ballot for president because he has the real birth certificate from Forbes Air Force Base Hospital at Topeka Ks.  As well as the death certificate of his real Dad and the marriage certificate to Obama S a couple of months before birth all in Toepka Ks, too. When Orly Taitz went into court on 9/22/12 and did not ask for the court order for the records he;s been on the political hot seat ever since as he is bound by law not to be able to say anything. I had field an affidavit of eye witness testimony with him on 9.14.12 and had called Ms Taitz asking if she would ask for the court order and did not do so.. That's when I began to suspect the birther movement was not after the truth. Too much money has been made of of person that was not told the truth of is origins due to fear for safety of his mother and him after the racist attack that left three dead in the Kansas River and she a victim, too. after a gossip frenzy in the city and at Topeka HS over the interracial couple. Compound this with Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist church where her mother had sent her to go to Copper Jr HS and she got a way from there, not even knowing her Dad;s real name was Pope and not Dunham. Linda Joy Adams, eye witnesss

anzablazer
anzablazer

You people don't even no how much illegals have stolen from American citizen. They stole your children's education. Think of all the money spent on educating illegal. That should have been spent on your American children. That was American taxpayer's money that was for your children. Instead, they got overcrowded classroom, less materials even more book that we didn't need for our children, but for illegals. And, the list can go on. Generations of American children have been cheated out of the higher education that they should have gotten. WE won't even talk identity thief, Gangs, Drugs. There the ones that bring them into America. They are all criminals. Now we know why there's has been and on going dumbing down of American children. That's the real truth. And, your Government new all about it.
 You see when the Illegal drain off all the state education money. The states had to go to the Government for money. That's when thing went south. The Government took over with the Department of Education. Unionize it all and now you pay three times as much for education that by their own admission is a failure. Those Mexican students that they want to give amnesty to are the ones you pay for the last 12 years. So the Government did this and lies about it. And, what do we get we are call racist. They should be thanking us. Another lie is that illegals pay Tax's. They don't pay State Tax and they don't pay Federal Tax's. How could they? That would mean that the Government knew where they were living and did not go and arrest them for being illegal. The only tax's illegals have been paying is State Sales Tax.


 

DaveFrancis
DaveFrancis

1986—THE SELL OUT! ARE AMERICANS GOING TO FALL FOR THIS SAD, FINANCIAL LIE AGAIN?

Yes! The Immigration policies are broken and needs to be fixed, because it never was meant to work a 100 percent in the first place? THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER IS GOING TO BE FORCED TO CARRY THE FINANCIAL BURDEN, AS THEY HAVE FOR MANY DECADES? Very few of the politicians who have the gonads, to speak their mind against the privileged that buy and sell the little man/women who have no voice. But we have—if we all band together and bombard Washington with our phone calls and emails. You can do exactly that by joining the growing detonation of angry voices in confronting YOUR lawmakers and sending free faxes through NumbersUSA. We wouldn’t be having these committees now, if the laws were carried out strictly. Immigrating to America legally is, and should be, a meticulous course of action meant to shield the interests of American citizens.

It involves more than simply slipping past the failure called the border fence and then bearing northwards in pursuit of free health care, free primary and secondary education, food stamps, paid by a broken U.S. citizenry taxpayer and a insolvent nation, living in a dream world where debt doesn’t exist—but outrageous spending does? Legal immigration means enduring painstaking barriers as criminal background checks, as a system to detect a criminal elements or concealed associations to terrorists; medical examinations to reveal contagious diseases still prevailing in third-world countries, but long since stamped out here; proof they are financially unwavering so as to avoid these legal immigrants from saddling the U.S. taxpayers. In addition to owning up to being in the country illegally, paying back taxes and further testing of knowledge of government civics and an understanding of English language skills. The truth being as the majority of these people had little money; many of these hurdles were waved.

It was convenient to the U.S. administration at the time. Those who have bypassed the fence into America in order to avoid our immigration inspection are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals, with no claim at all to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants. Such people do not deserve recognition and should not be rewarded by the United States government, and should be detained and deported according to the law, alongside the corrupt politicians that pander to these illegal alien invaders. As I have repeated many, many times before that if any of our administrations meant to keep people out of America, illegal entry would have found passage as a FELONY?The truth is millions of foreigners have invaded our country, leaving America defenseless to drug dealers, gangs, concealed crime, terrorism, communicable disease, and financial desolation and a flood of illegal migrants and immigrants.

IS IT NO WONDER THE PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST ANY GOVERNMENT, TO CARRY OUT THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS? SO HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH LYING TO OUR FACES. THEN WHO GETS THE PARAMOUNT BILL FOR ALL THE PROCESSING OF THE WELL UNDERESTIMATED 11 MILLION PEOPLE ALREADY HERE?

THE POLITICIANS NEED TO PROVE THEMSELVES TO THE PEOPLE, BY BUILDING THE 2006 SECURE FENCES NOT MATTER THE COST AND OFFERING NO MORE LAME EXCUSES. IF ISRAELIS CAN KEEP THE PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, THEN WE COULD IMITATE THE SAME PLAN? Avid readers should go and investigate the wall itself, which stands between the State of Israel and countries out to destroy their small country. Incidentally—guess who paid for that concrete and steel barrier? The fence is just over 15 feet high and is topped with razor wire cameras, radars and other surveillance equipment will allows Israel to monitor the vast areas that is to be defended using rapid deployment of military vehicles. Other barriers are strictly a wall with towers spreading from miles. WHY ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT, AS TERRORISTS ARE USING DRUG GANGS AID TO STEAL INTO OUR COUNTRY? THE COST OF TWO FORMIDABLE BARRIERS ONCE COMPLETED WOULD STOP THE ILLEGAL MIGRANTS SMUGGLING THEIR CHILDREN—AS MANY ARE STILL UNBORN ATTRACTED BY OUR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS COSTING THROUGH TIME, TRILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS FROM FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS. ONLY THE TOP SKILLED WORKERS SHOULD BE ISSUED EMPLOYMENT VISAS AND SOME FORM OF STRICTLY REGULATED GUEST WORKER FOR THE AGRICULTURE, BUT NOTHING PERMANENT.

In the 1986 amnesty all these procedures were rushed through, so many criminals slipped through the cracks. Then instead of 3.1 million illegal aliens being legitimized, the numbers rose to over 5 million, because the fact that immigration amnesty was to be signed into law that brought a deluge of uneducated, illiterates who swarmed borders and used the airlines with what money they had to pantomime a tourist, with no desire to return to their own country. We added even more poverty to our own low income people, that was a gold mine to incorrigible business and corporations, who still exploit foreigners and paying no taxes today. This should be a troubling warning that we are setting ourselves up for the same nightmare as before. What is that old saying or variant?

--“Insanity is doing the same thing in the same way & expecting a different outcome?”

In conclusion, the only poll worth its salt is Rasmussen Reports as most of the others are craftily worded to gain satisfaction for the open border zealots and special interest entities. By observing the thousands of comments, blogs and articles not associated with the Liberal Progressives one can collect a much better indicator of what the average working American is thinking and that is NOT a Path to Citizenship or AMNESTY?

 

AmberDru
AmberDru

Why don't we try actually enforcing the laws on the books? Attrition through enforcement works! When Barbara Jordan testified before Congress in 1995 on behalf of her bi-partisan U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, she said, "one-half of the nation's illegal alien problem results from visitors who entered legally but who do not leave when their time is up. Let me tell you in three simple words why that is: they get jobs."


Jordan's explanation neatly explains how the Obama administration can spend approximately $18 billion on immigration enforcement and still fail to open up millions of jobs for America's unemployed. Whereas Jordan believed the jobs held by illegal workers rightfully belonged to citizens and legal immigrant workers, President Obama believes illegal workers who successfully violate immigration laws deserve to keep their jobs. The gulf between Jordan and Obama could not be wider.


Those of us who take Jordan's view believe that when the laws are enforced and the jobs magnet is removed, many illegal aliens will decide to stop violating U.S. immigration laws and return home. Advocates who take the president's view say attrition through enforcement is a fantasy, yet evidence to the contrary is readily available.


The Chicago Tribune recently told the story of the Barcenas family who came to the U.S. on tourist visas in 2004, not long after president Bush proposed his own large-scale amnesty. They overstayed their visas and the two boys went to public school while the parents illegally bounced from job to job. Over the years, the state of Illinois made illegal employment easier for the Barcenases by certifying the father to remove asbestos and passing a law to prohibit the use of E-Verify.


Nevertheless, in 2013, the family decided to go home. They realized they had not put their children in the best position to succeed. "Without a Social Security number? Without permission to work? We realized it's hard," the father told the Tribune. And so, despite living in a sanctuary state, despite the boys being eligible for two-year work permits under Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and despite promises of a legalization bill this year, the Barcenas family made the decision to go home......Roy Beck


AmberDru
AmberDru

Hispanics/Latinos did not vote for Reagan when he gave them amnesty so there's no reason to believe a new amnesty would suddenly have a different result. Hispanics have overwhelmingly voted for Democrats for decades whether immigration was an issue or not.

dmartin317
dmartin317

yes the gop will not 'suddenly' win over hispanics and other undocumented immigrants with their support for legaligation or amnesty or regularization. whichever is politically correct. lets face it, republicans have to start rebuilding from the groungd up. one area they can start mending fences is getting immigrants to understand that they are not anti 'foreigners'. they are not unforgiving. they are not unsympathetic. what better place to start than with immigration reform. Getting used to the word amnesty is also a good idea. republicans have to learn, in general, how to be 'people friendly'.

kris, you suggested that stricter enforcement from within will eventually force people to self-deport. you cited the scinerio in arizona. my question to you is, 'where did they go?' did they go back to mexico, china, the phillipines? where? comment. you do not want to have a large majority of undocumented in any one area. especially since there is some amount of hostility toward them. this sounds like a recipe for disaster.

cheap labor is convenient no more. duh.

11+ Million people are not going anywhere. get real.

DanielGenseric
DanielGenseric

"ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!"

Everybody says there is a RACE problem called White Privilege. Everybody says White Privilege will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve Asian Privilege by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this White Privilege problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this problem called Black Privilege and this Black Privilege would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a Black Privilege problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

GodBlessAmerica911
GodBlessAmerica911

Kris Kobach was  Gov Romney's advisor on immigration   and contributed to the GOP downfall....guess  he  is smarter than everybody....

CharlesEdwardBrown
CharlesEdwardBrown

You have to admire someone for sticking to the law. It seems so many people today want to do the easy thing and let criminal aliens stay in the United States. Its a lot harder to say NO AMNESTY and to stand by your principals. Too few people seem to believe in the law anymore. They just want to twist it to suit their purposes.

MrObvious
MrObvious

There you have it; GOP want immigration reform to win elections - but this is the kind of guy GOP have become. It's just a voter play, their ideas remain the same. They want your votes, but don't give a shit about your rights.

wigglwagon
wigglwagon

Any so called solution that leaves illegals employed and legal workers unemployed is AMNESTY.

America either has to enforce it's immigration laws or abolish it's labor laws. That is the problem now. The open borders activists like to claim that Americans are either too lazy or too dense intellectually to do lots of jobs. That is not true. People are people. The only problem with American workers is that they cannot be exploited like the illegals because of the labor laws.

It is time to put all workers in America on equal footing. Under those circumstances, Americans would have as good chance of being hired as the illegals. Either let the exploitive employers exploit ALL workers, or NO workers.

If we abolish over time pay, minimum wage, workers' comp insurance, unions, OSHA and so forth, it will be amazing how fast the illegals learn to speak English. They will find out that even the exploitive employers prefer employees they can actually talk to without an interpreter.


Tero
Tero

"His interest in immigration law intensified when he realized that three of the four pilots of the hijacked airplanes had been stopped by police while in the country illegally."

Pfffttt give me a break. We all know why this dude is so obsessed with immigrants...

roknsteve
roknsteve

Pres. Obama's team deported millions in 4 years.  Bush in 8 years not much.  Republicans only want illegals for cheap labor because they have so much humanity.  Can you say phony?

gysgt213
gysgt213

Where is his cat and pinkie ring?

GerardoAlvarez
GerardoAlvarez

@anzablazer First of no one has "stollen anything fro American Citizens." American secondly, refers to all west Perhaps U.S. citizen would be more accurate.  Children do not steal. Politicians made those decisions not the illegal. They can't vote let alone have weight on politics. People like you fill the minds of manny with paranoia. More over, Gangs have existed way before this group was put in a microscope. "American" gangs have always been part of major cities. Criminals are those born here who decide they can take up arms and shoot our children in schools and our theaters. Our government is also your government so rather than pointing the finger and adding fuel to this fire pressure your representatives.  

On another note, tuition increases year by year because universities are a Business not because illegals took the Money. Many can't or won't even go to college because they can't work after they're finished with their education. "Those Mexican students," really, you that their re many other groups in the illegal market right? Puerto rican and cuban don't count by the way. Cubans have special treatment while Puerto ricans are granted automatic U.S. citizenship once in the states. Stop blaming failed government policies and exploitation of cheap labor on one group of peoples. Educate your self. Furthermore, believe it or not many illegal as you call them have homes, cars  under other people's names and they pay property tax. When they go shopping they pay a sales tax. They are not exempt at stores from taxes. They are not treated special. They to must pay a tax to purchase items. Many also file taxes and don't get credit for their children yet they pay the IRS what is owed to them using and IT# while lazy others rely on the system and ask for welfare or wait at free way exits for free bees. Yet IRS charges them knowing where they live and you're right they won't come and arrest them is not their "job." Have you ever wondered, if they were legal and obligated as we are to pay their taxes, what would happen to our economy? How about buying property, educating them selves, investing, upending up business of coarse those who reap the benefits of camp labor wan to continue exploiting them. It is not in their best interest to have an educated class who will compete with them. People are afraid of losing their jobs to competitive immigrants. They are just as capable if they had the means. Safer roads sound goad to me. People with Dr Licenses purchase new cars and travel. They want a better life for their families just like you and I. 

TrajanSaldana
TrajanSaldana

except this country wasn't a "white country" to begin with...whites "poured" into this country

wigglwagon
wigglwagon

@MrObvious We know that you think that citizens and legal immigrants should be forced to give up their jobs to make room for the illegal voters.

wigglwagon
wigglwagon

@Tero We all know why the exploitive employers love illegal aliens.

turds34
turds34

@roknsteve This is misleading.  The Obama administration deported just as many as the Bush Administration did.  While immigrants caught at the border were turned back and not counted in the statistics during the Bush era, they now are counted.  Thus, it appears there has been a rise, but in fact there has been a decline when the statistics are compared.

anzablazer
anzablazer

@GerardoAlvarez @anzablazer Why don't you  Illegals  go invade some other country.You want to no why you people won't?  No other country would have you people. And no other country give's it's citizen money away to foreign invader. Only in America. That why you people come to America to steal from America citizens.

anzablazer
anzablazer

@GerardoAlvarez @anzablazer My you been doing awfully well for yourself even thou your illegal. I would say allot better than most American citizen are doing. You wouldn't be getting special privileges from our Government because your Hispanic. That's all the Government has been doing is catering to Hispanic. Like Americans owe them something.

GerardoAlvarez
GerardoAlvarez

@anzablazer @GerardoAlvarez You vs us mentality is so old. You live in a country build by immigrants. Don't forget. Who envied whom? Go back to History class. We don't come to America to steal from anyone. I am a former Marine and a U.S. citizen and yes I was born in Mexico and yes my father brought me here at the age of 5 illegally and yes I pay taxes and yes I have a degree and yes I own a home and I earn all of my money. I don't steal from anyone. Your paranoid.