“She should shut up.”— New Jersey Governor Chris Christie on Dr. Connie Mariano, who went on CNN with concerns that Christie may die in office due to his weight. Dr. Mariano has not evaluated Christie's health and was President Clinton's doctor while he was in the White House.
Snuffleupagus needs to get a grip. My kid brother keeled over at 52 and he weighed a little less than Christie, judging by appearances. But, if health is the issue, Hillary Rodham Clinton at 65 with brain aneurysms is far riskier than the magnificent Jersey Goombah.
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I side with Christie although I would say STFU. He needs long distance medical advice from Clinton's physician? I don't think so and find the pronouncement of Mariano to be the height of unwanted judgement. In explanation, she is Republican, after all, and they are prone to unwanted judgements.
We should ignore Christie's weight just as we would ignore a woman of similar heft running for the same office. Certainly Fox never minded Bill Clinton's love of McDonalds. (I jest).
We all know their are rules for some and rules for others. A woman wouldn't make it with the girth of Christie - certainly not by stuffing a donut in her mouth on Letterman. And certainly not by being in your face with comments like, he "should shut up." She'd be toast.
Sure he could die. So could Obama.
Sure, Christie might have a higher probability of heart attack, but obesity doesn't have a massive impact on life expectancy - while the numbers differ, the numbers are still almost all under 10 years.
The #1 biggest impact on life expectancy is regular checkups and being able to afford health care - two issues that Christie will not have and a President gets regular checkups. I have *zero* concerns about Christie's health.
She seriously shouldn't have said that particularly since she has an MD title and doesn't speak as a regular citizen. Having said that though I feel the same way, not only would I not vote for him because of his views and leaning, but also because he might not make it. He would definitely need to show a clean bill of health (the longform) be fore he would get my vote.
As Joan Walsh says over on Salon, it won't be Christie's weight that knocks him out of the presidential sweepstakes. If anything does, it will be his temper.
Long distance medical advice? Anyone with two functioning eyes can see that Christie is morbidly obese. The health consequences for his level of obesity aren't a mystery.
If Christie doesn't care about his health, that's his business. But if he expects the public to vote for him then the public has the right to expect some self-control from him. Judging the health of politicians as part of whether they are fit to serve isn't new.
Like I was saying, when we talk about the weight of public figures, far too often it descends into bullying...
Interesting point about different standards. How many times has the first lady been referred to as fat? Something she isn't.
I don't find remarks like that -- and the barely-suppressed fury behind them -- excusable on people of either gender. Christie clearly has some anger-management issues.
Just did the analysis: No major nominated candidate for either party, assuming consistent life expectancy with what they actually live through, would have died in office since Roosevelt's death. In fact, with exception to LBJ, since Roosevelt, every single candidate, had they been elected twice, and seen their VP elected to serve twice, would've survived to see their VP's successor. (And in most cases, their VP's would've survived that long too)
BTW: their life expectancy's are just plain above the American average - so no matter how stressful the job of Presidency is, the offset of being rich enough to afford health care was more than enough to compensate for any health issues. Also keep in mind that Cheney has had 5 separate heart attacks and numerous surgeries and is still alive enough to destroy the world. (His first was when he was 37. Christie is 50 and waiting for his first)
forgottenlord, add the enormous stress of the presidency to obesity and I think that the risk factor skyrockets.
FL's Lawton Chiles was a pretty thin guy who died of a heart attack on his exercise bike, one month before finishing his second term as governor.
Huge Hugie will meet the same fate a whole lot faster if he doesn't drop the lbs. No one is promsed longevity, but wouldn't you want someone to lower the variables for cutting life short?
@Paul,nnto He should avoid running with anybody really thin, to avoid all the "laurel and hearty handshake" jokes.
I agree. Palin faced the same scrutiny because of McCain's age and health. We saw how that worked out.
@PerryWhite1 Fat and surly. How could we resist?
I don't care if he dies or not, same as I care about any Republican, including Dr. Prissy Mariano. My comment was about unsolicited judgements, which is a Republican speciality. Maybe if I send a pic of me to you and her I can receive a diagnosis? What BS.
Screw 'em. I hope for the end of all of the Republican Party, the camels they ride, and their religious fanatics.
@sacredh Taft was fat and getting fatter - he was fine and lived to the ripe old age of 72. The highest risk factor in the Oval Office has always and will always be assassination.
Honestly, I don't care. Everyone has their right to decide their own d*** life - and that includes public figures. I don't care if they screw their secretary, I don't care if they're gay, and I don't care about their weight. That's their personal life - they can do whatever they want.
Worse, I think that the public discussion of *individuals* as being overweight and so on often runs into the realm of bullying. We suck at it and the tabloids reinforce it over and over and over again. And the bullying seeps into the culture of the playground and girls everywhere end up with shattered mental states as even being a little pudgy becomes a big deal. Sure, talk about nutrition and encourage people to be healthy, buy why go after people?
And really, do you think Chris Christie doesn't know he's overweight? Do you think Chris Christie isn't fully aware of the health problems that come with? The guy was making jokes about his weight as the reason not to run for President in 2012 - he's aware of his condition. Let him make his own f***ing decision.
I've always found her attractive. There is something about a Chicago style, as opposed to LA or NY, that I like.
I don't think that there was the degree of stress then that there is today, but you're right, it depends on the individual. We're much more shallow as a society now though.
forgottenlord, I think my wife is thin. She's always trying to lose "just 5 more pounds". I'd prefer that she gain a few pounds or at least not try to lose anymore. She had cancer 4-5 years ago and was skeletal.
BTW: this is very personal for me. My wife is not overweight, she obsesses about her weight to the point of mental anxiety all the time even though I've constantly had to reinforce the idea that she's healthy and beautiful. Her sisters and mom all fall in the same category and try fad diets - to the point that her mom is dangerously underweight and still trying to lose weight. Every female friend I've had since I started University has obsessed at some point or another about their weight and exactly one of them ever actually was in a position where they were technically overweight. And then I glimpse the tabloids where beautiful women like Jessica Simpson and Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Lawrence are regularly criticized for being fat and I just get PISSED
@sacredh I'm lucky I wasn't trying to drink anything when I read that!
@sacredh He needs a bro-sierre ...
@sacredh You can understand how Christie might get confused. Given his girth, he probably hasn't been able to see Li'l Chris in years!