REUTERS/Larry Downing

Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords arrives with her husband, retired U.S Navy Captain Mark Kelly (R) prior to a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on gun violence, on Capitol Hill in Washington January 30, 2013. Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Charles Grassley (R-IA) look on at left.

“Speaking is difficult, but I need to say something important. Violence is a big problem. Too many children are dying — too many children. We must do something.”
— Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a shooting survivor, today before the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on gun control. NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre will speak before the committee later today.
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paulejb
paulejb

"Convicted rapist organizes gun control demonstration at Dayton gun show; Media fails to note his sex offender status"

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8759

Hey! Can you blame this pervert for wanting his victims to be unarmed?

paulejb
paulejb

"Here’s why Newtown victim’s father was NOT heckled"

Heslin: I don’t know how many people have young children or children. But just try putting yourself in the place that I’m in or these other parents that are here. Having a child that you lost. It’s not a good feeling; not a good feeling to look at your child laying in a casket or looking at your child with a bullet wound to the forehead. I ask if there’s anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: Why anybody in this room needs to have an, one of these assault-style weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips…..Not one person can answer that question.”

Crowd/Alleged Hecklers: “Second Amendment shall not be infringed”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/01/30/heres-why-newtown-victims-father-was-not-heckled/


grape_crush
grape_crush

Okay, so I watched that video.

It wasn't someone screaming, "you lie" at the President, but it wasn't respectful. No one should have been talking down to this guy like that. And who pulled that fire alarm in the middle of this guy's testimony?

Even though a question was put out there, it wasn't really answered, just talked at by several people loudly at the same time. Close enough to heckling to justify someone seeing it as such.

Sad thing is that, because this is becoming a matter of interpreting how what was said was said, we're getting distracted from really answering the question that was asked.

paulejb
paulejb

55 million innocent children have been snuffed out by abortionists in the last 40 years. Liberals seem not to be troubled by that sad fact. Wonder why that is?

grape_crush
grape_crush

Spam, flagged

No need to keep reposting the same link, Paulie.

paulejb
paulejb

@grape_crush ,

When at first Mr Heslin's question was not answered, he challenged the audience. He then got a reply. This was a trumped up incident created by the left and echoed by the left wing media.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb

to harass and try to disconcert with questions, challenges, or gibes

Um, yeah.  That's precisely what the guy did.  He wasn't answering the question, he was shouting a challenge.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb

Seems to me that Joseph Goebbels used these techniques. He said "if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth." The media in America seems to have taken up his tactics and are running with them.

Wow, top post from that link.  No wonder you have Nazis on your brain all the time, I guess it's epidemic of you people.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb

Heslin: Is there anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question, why anybody in this room needs to have one of these assault-style weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips? [Pause. Heslin looks around the room as if waiting for a response.] And not one person can answer that question or give me an answer.

Audience members: [unintelligible] The Second Amendment shall not be infringed.

Heslin: Alright.

Lawmaker: Please no comments while Mr. Heslin is speaking. Or we'll clear the room. Mr. Heslin please continue.

Heslin: Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion and I respect their opinions and their thoughts. I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought, and realize it could have been their child that could have been in that school that day.

That's not heckling?

AlistairCookie
AlistairCookie

@paulejb To suggest the lives of those children are on equal footing to a terminated pregnancy is an insult to children and parents everywhere.  Especially those parents.  It's beyond false equivalence.  It's disgusting.     

paulejb
paulejb

@DonQuixotic @paulejb ,

Calling the murder spree in Chicago just a crime is similar to comparing 9/11 to a bank robbery.

grape_crush
grape_crush

Paulie, I'm not going to split hairs over what constitutes heckling or not. I'll admit that it wasn't the most egregious instance of heckling ever, but the chair of that hearing wouldn't have told the audience to shut it if they had not been speaking during this Heslin guy's testimony.

Even if you don't think that it's heckling, it was still hugely insensitive, was rude, and those Second Amendment fetishists came off looking like a-holes. That guy has been through enough already, and like many Americans, just wants reasonable action to be taken.

paulejb
paulejb

@DonQuixotic @paulejb ,

Barack Obama and his loyal, left wing minions would make Joseph Goebbels blush with shame. In comparison to Obama and his gang, Joseph Goebbels was a rank amateurs.

grape_crush
grape_crush

That's sarcasm, Paulie, not an apology. 

Not that, based on your sad history of commenting here, you can tell the difference between the two. I almost pity you, as you come across as someone who has totally lost their grip on reality and their own humanity.


grape_crush
grape_crush

Oh, two links with a few different words in each to posts by the same guy saying the same thing. My bad.

And here I was, thinking that you were spamming the comment threads with the same material over and over again. Again.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb @DonQuixotic 

To a bank robbery?  Yes.  I also find it extremely shallow and insensitive, but you do love throwing around Nazi references into every other post.

paulejb
paulejb

@DonQuixotic @paulejb ,

You find the murders of 3000 Americans to be a dumb analogy. Pretty callous, aren't you, Donnie?

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb @DonQuixotic 

You unable to speak in anything but hyperbole.  Your analogy was dumb, much like your weird hatred for everything Chicago related.

paulejb
paulejb

@DonQuixotic @paulejb ,

You seem to be unable to discern levels of seriousness.

The attackers of 9/11 stole everything that some 3000 people had and would ever have.

paulejb
paulejb

@grape_crush ,

The criticism of the propagandists of the left in no way disparages the grief that Mr Heslin feels.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb @DonQuixotic 

I would love to see the actual Met Office report that they're drawing that from.  I can't believe there's still people like you running about denying climate change; I'll just direct you to the EPA.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb @DonQuixotic 

Should I get you a thesaurus Paul?  You're aware "global warming" and "climate change" are the same thing, right?

paulejb
paulejb

@DonQuixotic @paulejb ,

From "heckling" to "mindless repudiation."

The left finds the language to be so flexible. That is how they could change "global warming" to "climate change" with a straight face.

gysgt213
gysgt213

@DonQuixotic @paulejb Don't let Paul fool you the Natzis would have been a rock stars to him if he lived in Nazi Germany.  Look at his lock step thinking on any and every subject.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@paulejb @DonQuixotic 

You're arguing a legal right, with varying and complicated circumstances, to a massacre.  Dead is not just dead, it's not that simple Paul.