Man of His Word: Obama Likely to Deliver on His Inaugural Promises (Again)

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U.S. President Barack Obama listens as First Lady Michelle Obama delivers remarks at the Inaugural Reception at the National Building Museum on Jan. 20, 2013 in Washington, D.C.

Unlike most inaugural addresses, President Obama’s first was kind of a bummer. The media expected him to focus on the feel-good story of his racially historic election, but instead he dwelled on national drift and economic collapse, “a sapping of confidence across our land.” And unlike most inaugural addresses, Obama’s first detailed his immediate policy plans for the troubled country:

            We will act not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth. We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together. We will restore science to its rightful place and wield technology’s wonders to raise health care’s quality and lower its costs. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.

My insta-response on TIME’s live-blog was: “This is the weak part of the speech. It’s a lovely laundry list, but it’s a laundry list. Save it for the State of the Union.” But as I later explained in my book about change in the Obama era, the State of the Union would’ve been too late.

(LIST: Obama’s Inauguration: Who’s Who in the Ceremony)

That’s because Obama and his transition team were already putting together an $800 billion stimulus bill that would keep all those promises during his first month in office. It did create jobs at a time when the U.S. was shedding 800,000 a month, triggering the biggest quarterly employment improvement in 30 years in the spring of 2009, and it did begin to lay that new foundation for growth, the Change We Can Believe In that Obama had talked about on the campaign trail. It included America’s largest infrastructure investments—not only roads and bridges but a smarter electric grid and digital broadband lines—since Eisenhower. It included unprecedented federal investments in scientific research. It poured an astonishing $27 billion into health information technology that is dragging our medical system into the electronic era. It jump-started a clean energy revolution that has doubled U.S. wind power, increased solar power more than 1000%, financed the nation’s first advanced biofuels refineries, and created a domestic battery industry for electric vehicles from scratch. It launched Race to the Top, arguably the most ambitious education reform initiative of the postwar era. Not to mention its quiet modernization of the New Deal unemployment insurance system, or its dramatically successful new effort to prevent homelessness, or a variety of other reforms.

Admittedly, none of these transformative policies were too original. Obama cares deeply about policy, but he’s not really a policy entrepreneur, and his 2008 campaign was not really about new ideas. It was about change, and the sense that maybe he’d follow through on familiar old ideas that never went anywhere. And he has. I’m sorry to bury the lede, but the story of his first term is that he basically tried to do what he said he would do, and he mostly succeeded. As I’ve written, Obama’s critics often dismissed him as a words guy; he turned out to be a deeds guy.

As Obama prepares to deliver his second inaugural address today, it’s worth recounting some of those deeds. He saved the U.S. auto industry from the brink of extinction. He achieved the Democratic dream of overhauling health care, providing near-universal coverage and insurance protections while starting to rein in costs. He passed the most sweeping financial reforms since the Depression. He got rid of Osama bin Laden, ended the war in Iraq, and is on his way to ending the war in Afghanistan. He allowed gays to serve openly in the military. He raised taxes on the rich and cut taxes for everyone else. His administration has avoided serious scandals, and has ramped up transparency in government operations.

(MORE: A New Report Says Change Happens From the Outside. But in the Obama Era, It’s Happened on the Inside)

That was basically the 2008 Obama campaign agenda. The reality-deficient right has attacked him as a lawless socialist, while the utopian left has attacked him as a spineless sellout, but very little in his White House record should have been a surprise to anyone who listened to his priorities.

Obama didn’t get everything he wanted. He didn’t get a cap-and-trade bill, although he did pass historic fuel-efficiency and appliance-efficiency standards that will dramatically reduce energy use, in addition to his groundbreaking investments in clean energy. He didn’t pass a comprehensive immigration bill either. And he didn’t keep his promises to end the pettiness and nastiness of Washington politics, to “set aside childish things,” as he put it in his inaugural. Republicans realized that they could make him a promise-breaker by refusing to cooperate, at a time when their increasingly reactionary base was pushing them towards non-cooperation anyway. So Washington is still a political Toys R Us. Obama has only changed its policies, a heavy lift given the relentless obstructionism of his opposition.

So what does Obama do for an encore? Congress already passed most of his 2008 agenda. And let’s face it: He didn’t have much of a 2012 agenda. “Forward” was a nice slogan, but all it meant was “Don’t let Romney and the GOP undo everything I did and restore the Bush era.”

Obama’s first priority in his second term, as in his first term, will be avoiding economic disaster. Unless he can work out a fiscal deal with surly Republicans, they could force the U.S. into an unthinkable default on its obligations. The negotiations could also end in a government shutdown, or drastic short-term spending cuts that could produce a double-dip recession, as they did in austerity-battered Spain and Great Britain. That said, the talks could also produce a bipartisan deal that makes additional progress on the long-term budget deficit while protecting the economic recovery, which would burnish Obama’s legacy. He could even make good on his promise in his first inaugural to end inefficient government programs; except for the F-22 fighter jet, he hasn’t ended much in his first term.

(MORE: What the Current Economic Outlook Means for American Families)

Otherwise, major legislation might be a heavy lift as long as the GOP controls the House and can filibuster Democratic legislation in the Senate. Immigration could be an exception, thanks to Republican eagerness to make nice with Latinos; Senator Marco Rubio is pushing a plan similar to Obama’s, and if the president can pretend he doesn’t like it for awhile it just might become law. Obama’s passionate push for gun control after Sandy Hook could produce some modest bipartisan efforts to expand background checks. There is also some bipartisan interest in tax reforms that could limit inefficient deductions and close egregious loopholes while lowering rates. And it’s at least conceivable that the threat of the EPA regulating carbon pollution could build momentum for some kind of climate bill, the hole in Obama’s Change We Can Believe In policy doughnut.

More likely, though, the lasting policy work of Obama’s second term will be conducted behind the scenes, where bureaucrats will be implementing Obamacare, financial reform, Race to the Top, and other legacy projects from the first term. It’s not sexy. But after some massive achievements in his first term, Obama is well positioned to take advantage of natural forces in his second. If the economy continues to rebound, the deficit should shrink and Obama’s reputation as a turnaround artist should grow; Obama used to tell his advisers it would be very annoying if a President Romney got to claim credit for the recovery. And if the U.S. military continues to reduce its global footprint, the U.S. reputation in the world should continue to revive from the abyss of the Bush years.

Of course, there’s no way to know what surprises the next four years will bring at home or abroad. But if his first four years are any guide, it will make sense to listen to what Obama says he plans to do today. He’ll probably do it.

MORE: What Should Obama Say in His Second Inaugural Address?

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famulla5
famulla5

"It's true that Hagel harbours a healthy scepticism about deploying American troops. That's because he also harbours shrapnel in his chest from Vietnam and appreciates the human costs when Pentagon officials move pins on maps." Nicholas D. Kristof; In Defence of Hagel for Defence; The New York Times; Jan 9, 2013. If you wish to make an apple pie truly from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -Carl Sagan, astronomer and writer (1934-1996) Here we go.  Obama refuses to endorse Cameron’s deficit planUS president emphasises the need for investment and says that “every country is different”. The Torieswere desperatefor Barack Obama to endorse the coalition's deficit reduction plan, but at today's press conference he didn't even come close. In response to a question on the subject from ITV's Tom Bradby, the US president emphasised that "every country is different" and praised the way that "concerted action" by the UK and the US had "yanked the world economy out of recession" – an implicit endorsement of the last Labour government's fiscal stimulus. Obama, who noted in his introductory remarks that the pair come from "different political traditions", went on to stress the need to sustain investment in "education, science, technology and infrastructure". For the US president, unlike the coalition, economic growth is a precondition of deficit reduction, not a hoped-for outcome It was only towards the end (Obama's answers were incredibly long-winded) that he made a token reference to the need for governments to "live within their means" before adding that the "sequencing and pace" of deficit reduction would be different in each country. It wasn't what Cameron and George Osborne wanted to hear. The irony is that there are some significant similarities between Obama's deficit reduction plan and the coalition's.As notedin a recent Data Hound column, under the US president's plan, public-sector borrowing will fall from 10.9 per cent of GDP this year to 3.3 per cent in 2016. The coalition aims to reduce borrowing from 9.9 per cent of GDP this year to 1.5 per cent in 2016. Thus, although the total fiscal consolidation planned by Osborne remains the largest, the difference is not as great as some imply. In addition, Obama plans to achieve three-quarters of the US deficit reduction through spending cuts, including lower debt interest payments, and the rest through tax rises, in a ratio similar to the coalition's 73:27 split. We are split I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA

famulla5
famulla5

We seem to have a problem here …Obama's Failure to Punish Banks Should Be Causing Serious Social Unrest  Frontline program on Tuesday night broadcast a new one-hour report  on one of the greatest and most shameful failings of the Obama administration  the lack of even a single arrest or prosecution of any senior Wall Street banker for the systemic fraud that precipitated the 2008 financial crisis  a crisis from which millions of people around the world are still suffering. What this program particularly demonstrated was that the Obama justice department, in particular the Chief of its Criminal Division, Lanny Breuer, never even tried to hold the high-level criminals accountable. What Obama justice officials did instead is exactly what they did in the face of high-level Bush era crimes of torture and warrantless eavesdropping: namely, acted to protect the most powerful factions in the society in the face of overwhelming evidence of serious criminality. Indeed, financial elites were not only vested with impunity for their fraud, but thrived , even as ordinary Americans continue to suffer the effects of that crisis . Worst of all, Obama justice officials both shielded and feted these Wall Street oligarchs (who, just by the way, overwhelmingly supported Obama's 2008 presidential campaign ) as they simultaneously prosecuted and imprisoned powerless Americans for far more trivial transgressions. As Harvard law professor Larry Lessing put it two weeks ago when expressing anger over the DOJ's persecution of Aaron Swartz: "we live in a world where the architects of the financial crisis regularly dine at the White House." (Indeed, as "The Untouchables" put it: while no senior Wall Street executives have been prosecuted, "many small mortgage brokers, loan appraisers and even home buyers" have been). At length in 2011 book on America's two-tiered justice system, With Liberty and Justice for Some, the evidence that Wall Street committed felonies is overwhelming. That evidence directly negates the primary excuse by Breuer (previously offered by Obama himself ) that the bad acts of Wall Street were not criminal. Numerous documents prove that executives at leading banks, credit agencies, and mortgage brokers were falsely touting assets as sound that knew were junk: the very definition of fraud. As former Wall Street analyst Yves Smith wrote in her book ECON: "What went on at Lehman and AIG, as well as the chicanery in the CDO [collateralized debt obligation] business, by any sensible standard is criminal." Even

lifelong Wall Street defender Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve Chair, said in Congressional testimony [12] that "a lot of that stuff was just plain fraud." A New York Times editorial in August [11] explained that the DOJ's excuse for failing to prosecute Wall Street executives - that it was too hard to obtain convictions - "has always defied common sense - and all the more so now that a fuller picture is emerging of the range of banks' reckless and lawless activities, including interest-rate rigging, money laundering, securities fraud and excessive speculation." The Frontline program interviewed former prosecutors, Senate staffers and regulators who unequivocally said the same: it is inconceivable that the DOJ could not have successfully prosecuted at least some high-level Wall Street executives - had they tried. What's most remarkable about all of this is not even Wall Street had the audacity to expect the generosity of largesse they ended up receiving. "The Untouchables" begins by recounting the massive financial devastation the 2008 crisis wrought - "the economy was in ruins and bankers were being blamed" - and recounts: "In 2009, Wall Street bankers were on the defensive, worried they could be held criminally liable for fraud. With a new administration, bankers and their attorneys expected investigations and at least some prosecutions." This is from the USA paper I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA

famulla5
famulla5

Prime Minister David Cameron will on Wednesday propose holding a referendum after 2015 giving British people the choice of staying in or leaving the European Union. Cameron will say in a long-awaited speech in London that he wants to renegotiate the terms of Britain's membership because "public disillusionment with the EU is at an all-time high", and then put the new terms to the people. According to pre-released excerpts, Cameron will say his Conservative party will make the pledge in its campaign for the general election scheduled to take place in two years' time. "The next Conservative manifesto in 2015 will ask for a mandate from the British people for a Conservative government to negotiate a new settlement with our European partners in the next parliament," the speech says. "And when we have negotiated that new settlement, we will give the British people a referendum with a very simple in-or-out choice to stay in the EU on these new terms, or come out altogether. It will be an in-out referendum." If a Conservative government wins outright victory, a referendum would be held in the first half of the next parliament, he adds. AND I ADD

Leaders are not born; they are groomed in all their life, going through the thick and the thin and never ever try to escape the duties bestowed on to them. They are like the captain who would rather abandon the ship at the last resorts unlike the ones we have now I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA

LenSimpson
LenSimpson

BO's prayer-----" Lord, or somebody, please deliver me from greedy & small minded people.

PishawBro
PishawBro

Again? Did I miss something? Guantanamo is still open. Young people are still dying in Afghanistan. And the Justice Department is still run by the same idiots Bush put in charge.

In fact, we are headed into the 13th. year of the Bush administration. The only reason Obama still has the job is the republicans couldn't find anyone who is NOT insane, unintelligent, or both.

Is it any wonder things are so bad?

shepherdwong
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Promises I hear, in addition to the recent previous commitment to do something about mass murder by gun, are to implement policies on global warming, equal pay, marriage equality, voting rights, and immigration reform. Along with creating more jobs and keeping the Republicans from further damaging the economic recovery, it's a pretty full plate. This decidedly non-utopian leftist wishes him luck.

UMMLocal12
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M Grunwald makes a better case for re-electing Obama than the Obama campaign did.  That was even true before the election, when he published his book.  Even if you don't agree with his opinions, at least he presents them in a coherent argument and references facts. 

That is a very disturbing comment on the poverty of our political discourse and the general media coverage of it.

fitty_three
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It was an excellent speech.

Oh, BTW, he ripped into the GOP in a beautifully indirect way.

Bravo!

AlistairCookie
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@53_3 I just read the transcript.  A very well written speech; the speech writer(s) should be very proud of themselves.  I will have to catch Obama's delivery later on the internet when I have a chance.  

Waiting for the fault finders in 3...2...

markcurry7
markcurry7

It would be great if they would put the greed down and work together things would be great for everyone.

hjpreston
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Yes he's competent.  And fair-minded, morally sound, extremely intelligent (admit it) and just a plain cool dude.

What's not to like?  Oh, yeah...

HeEsa
HeEsa

ALL HUMANS    THINK., STOP FIGHTING FOR GREED + UN WANTED BAD  DESIRE = EVERY ONE CAN LIVE HAPPY. MAKE THIS EARTH OR WORLD MOST PEACEFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND MAKE IT A HUMAN HEAVEN.... AS ONE DAY WE ALL HAVE TO GO.........DEATH IS REALITY OF LIFE  AS LONG AS YOU LIVE .LIVE WITH LOVE RESPECT AND  DIGNITY.......AT THIS AGE WHEN I SEE HUMANS FIGHTING IN NAME OF RELIGION I FEEL SAD.   WHY NOT LIVE IN PEACE AND LOVE & HELP LESS BLESSED HUMANS....WARS AND FIGHTING LEADS TO ONLY SUFFERING..ESA.

KevinGroenhagen
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"The reality-deficient right has attacked him as a lawless socialist...."

 This from someone who wears knee pads emblazoned with the Obama logo and believes the failed stimulus plan worked. 

"Republicans realized that they could make him a promise-breaker by refusing to cooperate..."

How did the GOP force Obama to break his promise on Gitmo? His promise to open up all the Obamacare negotiations to C-SPAN? His promise to allow five days of public comment before signing bills? The reality is that the vast majority of the dozens and dozens of promises Obama has failed to keep had nothing to do with the opposition.

Grunwald demonstrates why Newsweek and Time are struggling news magazines. Their former readers simply grew tired of the BS they are peddling.


PishawBro
PishawBro

@KevinGroenhagen  

 Ladies and gentlemen, the republican party 2013! Uninformed, unintelligent, and deceived.

 When do the Death Camps open, Kevin?

mantisdragon91
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@KevinGroenhagen Speaking of knee pads, shouldn't you be polishing yours for Rush Limbaugh?

MementoMori
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@mantisdragon91@KevinGroenhagenIt'd be nice if we could all stop using gay innuendo as an insult. I expect that from Greonhagen, who calls everyone he disagrees with 'effeminate' or 'skippy'. We should use Greonhagen as an example of how not to behave like an adult, and dispense with the schoolyard-level insults.

MementoMori
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@KevinGroenhagen @MementoMori @mantisdragon91Kevin, I've been here long enough to have heard your broken record sloganeering and nigh-constant questioning of people's manhood. And when I say 'people' I mean every single male liberal you disagree with. You behave like a ten year old, then complain when people treat you like a ten year old.

No apology from me. Grow up.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@mantisdragon91 @KevinGroenhagen Spoken like a true anonymous coward.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@mantisdragon91 @KevinGroenhagen Actually, I shared my DD 214 and proved that I served in the Marines (upper case). That's why I know that you did not serve. No true veteran would every contemplate inserting their dog tags into someone's rectum.

BobJan
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@KevinGroenhagen so just how do we pay for 2 wars, 2 tax cuts, big drug giveaway, TSA and Homeland Security. These were all instituted under a Republican President with a Republican Congress. I'm not saying it was good, wrong or indifferent. When GW left office the country was collapsing. 800,000 jobs a month were being lost. That in itself is a ton of lost revenue $$$$$$. The two wars were eating the country alive in terms of revenue $$$$$$$ going into the war machine. So just how was the next president supposed to pay for this debt that was already rang up. It was brought on by both sides too. You don't like Obama, that's already a given. Then I ask you how to work with a person like McConnell that goes around boasting that his only goal in life is to make Obama a one term president. Then back in December of 2012 McConnell brings up a bill and Reid allows it to be brought to the floor for a vote and McConnell himself filibusters his own bill. If I were President I'd go on national TV and tell the American people that they've got one dumb person in Senator McConnell. But that's not what politicians do. So just tell me how do we pay for all that I've mentioned. And get off the "I hate Obama kick", it's really old.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@BobJan@KevinGroenhagenFirst, both the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were authorized by a Democrat-controlled Senate, so you have your facts wrong on that. As I noted earlier, the deficit for FY 2007 was just $160 billion, and that was when both wars were taking place. So what's the excuse for Obama's trillion-dollar deficits?

"You don't like Obama, that's already a given. Then I ask you how to work with a person like McConnell that goes around boasting that his only goal in life is to make Obama a one term president."

 He never said that that was his only goal, so you're wrong about that as well. And it's always the goal of the opposition party to make the president a one-term president. There's nothing new about that.

I hate socialism. Why would you want me to love Obama when he is a socialist who promotes socialism? Socialism runs counter to our founding principles.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

Then that would make Obama's trillion-dollar deficits six-trillion-dollar deficits.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@BobJan@KevinGroenhagenThanks for admitting that you were wrong when you said the wars were " instituted under a Republican President with a Republican Congress." Few liberals acknowledge their errors.

BobJan
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@KevinGroenhagen@Tero@BobJan  

The real 2007 federal budget deficit was $4 trillion, not a previously reported $163 billion, an economist contends, based on data from the Treasury Department’s annual financial report.

“The federal government’s fiscal woes continue to careen wildly out of control,” said economist John Williams, who publishes the Internet website Shadow Government Statistics.

Williams explained that the difference between the official budget deficit and his number is that the official figure is calculated on a cash basis, where all tax receipts, including Social Security receipts, are used to pay government liabilities as they occur.

Williams bases his figure on the Treasury Department’s “2007 Financial Report of the United States Government,” released Dec. 15.

The calculations in the annual report are calculated on a GAAP basis – Generally Accepted Accounting Practices – that includes year-for-year changes in the net present value of unfunded liabilities in social insurance programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

Under cash accounting, the government makes no provision for future Social Security and Medicare benefits in the year in which those benefits accrue.

“Truthfully, there is no Social Security ‘lock-box.’ There are no funds held in reserve today for Social Security and Medicare obligations that are earned each year,” Williams pointed out.

“It’s only a matter of time until the public realizes that the government is truly bankrupt and no taxes are being held in reserve to pay in the future the Social Security and Medicare benefits taxpayers are earning today.”

Calculations from the 2007 report also show that the GAAP negative net worth of the federal government has increased to $54.3 trillion, while the total federal obligations under GAAP accounting now total $59.8 trillion.

“Social Security and Medicare must be shown as liabilities on the federal balance sheet in the year they accrue,” Williams argued. “To do otherwise is irresponsible, nothing more than an attempt to hide the painful truth from the American public.

“The public has a right to know just how bad off the federal government budget deficit situation really is, especially since the situation is rapidly spinning out of control,” he said.

Williams explained to WND the federal government is “bankrupt.”

“In a post-Enron world, if the federal government were a corporation such as General Motors, the president and senior Treasury officers would be in federal penitentiary,” he said.

Williams noted that the 2007 report utilized several one-time accounting adjustments calculated to make the numbers look less severe.

In his subscription newsletter, Williams reported the government’s figures according to the standards previously used, discounting the one-time adjustments.

In a letter included in the 2007 Financial Report of the United States Government, David M. Walker, the U.S. comptroller general, once again refused to certify or render an opinion on the consolidated financial statements contained in the report, noting “the federal government’s inability to demonstrate the reliability of significant portions of the U.S. government’s accompanying accrual basis consolidated financial statements for fiscal years 2007 and 2006.”

In his letter, Walker also noted the first wave of the baby boom generation has begun to leave the work force and file for retirement benefits.

Walker observed the budget and economic implications “will only intensify as the baby boomers age,” resulting in the dire consequence “that our nation is on an imprudent and unsustainable long-term fiscal path that is getting worse with the passage of time.”

“That’s an understatement,” Williams said. “What the comptroller of the United States is telling us is that as bad as a $4 trillion federal budget deficit and a $54.3 trillion GAAP negative net worth is, the situation with the federal budget deficit is only going to get worse as the baby boomers retire and demand retirement services, including Social Security and Medicare payments.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/01/45430/#AV4CZeRvrtYFcWzw.99

BobJan
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@KevinGroenhagen@BobJan

2001 107th Congress  Pres. GW Bush   Senate  D*       House  R 221

2003 108th Congress  Pres. GW Bush   Senate  R51     House  R 229

2005 109th Congress  Pres. GW Bush   Senate  R55     House  R 232

2007 110th Congress  Pres. GW Bush   Senate  D51** House  D 233

2009 111th Congress  Pres. Obama        Senate D55***House  D 256 


* There were 50 Ds and 50 Rs until May 24, 2001, when Sen. James Jeffords (R-VT) switched to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001; he announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage.

** Independent Sen. Bernard Sanders (VT) gives the Democrats a one-seat majority.

*** Two Independents and two vacancies (IL and MN) 

 Apparently everyone forgot the President needed 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation.  I heard a Latino news reporter say they felt if the President could pass healthcare, he could have passed immigration reform.  Newsflash!!  The healthcare bill was passed using "reconciliation", because there were not 60 Democrats in the Senate.


S_Deemer
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@KevinGroenhagen : "[McConnell] never said that that was his only goal,..."

McConnell said this: ""the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." For most speakers of English, "single" is a synonym for "only".

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@Tero @KevinGroenhagen @BobJan All of Obama's mentors were socialists, Obama attended socialist conferences while at Columbia, he adopted the community organizing tactics of socialists, he ran Project Vote! with socialists in Chicago, he ran as a Democrat Party and New Party, which was affiliated with Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), fusion candidate in 1996, he appointed DSA members and relatives of DSA members to positions in his administration, he awarded a DSA honorary chair with a Medal of Freedom, and his promotes socialist policies. Yet you claim that he is not a socialist and then call me a moron? Hilarious.

Tero
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@KevinGroenhagen @BobJan 

*Obama is not a socialist. No matter how many times you (incorrectly) state it. 

You are a moron.

Tero
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@KevinGroenhagen

"Grunwald demonstrates why...blah blah blah"

You consistently demonstrate your irrelevance, your hatred, and your childishness with every post you make. You are a sad old, bigoted, pathetic excuse for a man. Honour your bet and leave Swampland. No one is buying what your selling, loser.

raidx259
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@Tero @KevinGroenhagenBigot. That's a really choice word for you liberals isn't it?


Anyone that doesn't see things your way is a bigot and a hater. 

raidx259
raidx259

@Tero @raidx259 @KevinGroenhagen 

No just stopped to call you out. Because your manners are unbecoming and diminish whatever it is you stand for. What, you own this board? 

Tero
Tero

@raidx259 @Tero @KevinGroenhagen 

I can carry on a conversation with reasonable adults. Kevy just happens to not fit that category, so I call him out on his lies, bigotry, and homophobia. Who are you anyways? Just stopped by to whine?

Tero
Tero

@raidx259 @Tero @KevinGroenhagen

"Anyone that doesn't see things your way is a bigot and a hater."

No, just those like Kevy, who demonstrate their bigotry on a daily basis. Why you so sensitive?

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@Tero @KevinGroenhagen And you are and will always remain an anonymous coward posting from his mother's basement.

raidx259
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@Tero @KevinGroenhagen See? there we go again. Bigot.

Seriously, W T F guy. Can't you engage in a discussion without the name calling?

Tero
Tero

@KevinGroenhagen @Tero 

Kevy; im sorry to say but your sad, delusional posts expose the simplicity of your mind and character. You are a bigot and a homophobe with a pervy fascination for under-age girls. Keep on telling yourself otherwise...

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@Tero @KevinGroenhagen How would I know if you're effeminate? I've never met you. You're a liberal, so that increases the chances that you're effeminate, but not all liberals are effeminate. I do not have a fascination with Taylor Swift. I have merely compared her with Rosie O'Donnell.

Tero
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@KevinGroenhagen @Tero 

That all you got? The same OLD, tired, recycled, stale comments? Aren't you gonna call me "effeminate"? Or maybe reiterate your pervy fascination with Taylor Swift?

You are pathetic, and everyone here sees you as such. You're not a "constitutionalist", you're a joke!

outsider2011
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@Tero @KevinGroenhagen 


Have you ever noticed he stays away from high traffic posts? Once the count goes up, he just stops. 

Almost as though he can't handle the onslaught of dissenting opinions. It's like he can't argue, and name calling doesn't seem effective - so he just puts his tail between his legs, and leaves. 

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@outsider2011 @Tero @KevinGroenhagen The sad thing is for you liberals this is supposed to be a day of celebration. Yet here you are, expressing the same bitterness you have always expressed. You guys will be losers regardless of who is in the White House.

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@outsider2011 @Tero @KevinGroenhagen Reminds me of my husband's grandfather.  Since we elected (TWICE, the horror!) a president with an obvious case of being Not White, he's been quite upset at the country going down the drain.  Right down to the "socialist, Muslim-sympathizer" (which, as a concept, is a disgusting insult to Muslims--the insinuation being that they, as a class of people, are inherently evil and bad).  He enjoys his Fox News cocoon because it is reassuring and comforting.  It is an echo chamber that tells him exactly what he wants to hear (it's how he knows they're right).  It's okay.

There is no reason to engage him (grandpa, or Mr. Groenhagen) in any conversation when they refuse to acknowledge facts that don't support their pre-drawn conclusions and biases.  Especially when the exchange goes to insults so quickly (the last defense when backed into a rhetorical corner); my 4 year old knows better than to behave like that.   

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@Tero @outsider2011 @KevinGroenhagen 


On one hand, i kinda feel for the guy;  his country changing (for the better), and he's pretty powerless to stop it. 


Older people don't like change, because it's different from what they are used to, so they can't handle it (coincidence that it's older, white people who are screaming the loudest?). 


And change is inevitable - the stark reality can't really be denied, so i understand his fear. What i don't accept however, is his need to put down everyone else who are happy with the changes. I mean when he makes an argument like he did above, i read it, and consider it - there was no name calling, just his opinion - which is fine, everyone is entitled, right?


It's his need to call names that takes away from any point he may raise, and basically serves to render his opinion irrelevant - and that is unfortunate. While i don't agree with his points, or his view, i know personally, i'd be more inclined to read them and address them if they were in a civil manner. 


That's totally removed from his whole breaking his bet thing; though the breaking his bet thing is another symptom of the behavior - things didn't turn out the way he predicted, and since he couldn't handle it, he discarded it. 


Not so easy to do in terms of gov't - but very easy to do here. 

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@outsider2011 @Tero @KevinGroenhagen

I know LOL. I love his retort to this article, an article from a professional, educated journalist; "This from someone who wears knee pads emblazoned with the Obama logo". I mean what a pathetic old loser kevy is. Doesn't he realize how foolish he sounds? I guess not...