“We are not a deadbeat nation.”
— In his last press conference of his first term, President Obama today rejected the use of executive action granted through the 14th Amendment to solve the debt ceiling crisis. Obama wants Congress to raise the debt ceiling, so "we can pay our bills."
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TerryClifton
TerryClifton

Obama could stop taking hundreds of billions out of the economy by chilling on his heavy handed regulatory practices. 

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

*sigh* And to think that my scroll wheel had finally recovered...

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

Wrong Mr. President.  We ar a dead beat nation.  We borrow billions and billions of dollars to pay for things we can't afford.  We have run up a debt which over the long term will not be sustainable.  We have a demographic problem, because as our population ages, we will have more bills for the elderly and not enough workers to pay for them.  We have a special interest problem, because anytime someone suggests cutting spending, some special interest group claims that the spending is absolutely necessary.  We really need to become serious about cutting spending and not using the Social Security "lockbox" to cover up our deficit spending.  We need to really examine what is really necessary and be willing to bit the bullet.  If we need to raise taxes, we should, but not enough to stifle the recovery.  If we need to elimate loopholes, lets do it without the influence of special interests.  In cutting, we must make sure we protect our most vulnerable citizens.  However, we need to cut, and we need to do it gradually so we would shock our system too much.  Winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is a good start.

paulejb
paulejb

A belated Happy New Year to all. A dislocated memory card took me right out of the loop on Christmas eve, but I'm back now and ready to go for 2013. 

outsider
outsider

@TerryClifton 


The regulatory practices that got repealed under bush, and allowed the mortgage companies to tank the economy? 

You say you're a libertarian, but you espouse a great many GOP talking points. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@reallife You mean the Bush Tax cuts to the rich during a time of two unpaid for wars, one of which was clearly a war of choice. He is correct that was unpatriotic.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@53_3 One of these days I won't be ashamed of my state.

fitty_three
fitty_three

@kbanginmotown 

I took one look and farted derisively.  I was enjoying the calmer discussions with conservatives who weren't insane.

MementoMori
MementoMori

@paulejb Hookers and strippers - just another day in the mind of paulie....

TerryClifton
TerryClifton

@fhmadvocat  

I just agreed with 99.99% of what you just said..Uh, oh, lol. I would only add that we need to kick the blood suckers/special interest out of Washington, and we must reign in entitlements. One more thing, our foreign policy of bribing countries with money has to end, Now! 

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@paulejb "A dislocated memory card took me right out of the loop..."

Glad you're feeling better. But, what happened to your computer?

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

Happy New Year Paulie!!  I am glad to have you back!!  This place would be really boring if we couldn't have fun with our conservative friends!!  BTW, for all those Conservatives who were dumb enough to bet on Romney winning the election (you gotta watch something other than Fox), please come back!  I deeply love all my Liberal brothers and sisters, but sometimes the echo chamber is boring and I love a good debate!

La_Randy
La_Randy

@paulejb Being wrong about everything in 2012 was not enough? Glutton!

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@paulejb Actually the Republican congress trying to welsh on existing debts, by holding the debt ceiling hostage would be a "Wimpy" move. But by all means Happy New Year Paule.

TerryClifton
TerryClifton

@mantisdragon91 @TerryClifton  

Seriously? Is that all you got? Of course not, China has absolutely zero regulations when it comes to air pollution. Currently, we have over 10,000 different regulations dealing with air pollution. 

TerryClifton
TerryClifton

On social issues, I'm quite liberal, and on economic and constitutional issues, very conservative. 

paulejb
paulejb

@MementoMori @paulejb ,

Hookers and strippers always come to mind whenever the Democrat party is the subject of the discussion.

Sue_N
Sue_N

@TerryClifton @fhmadvocat I'm with you in that we have to severely limit the reach and influence of lobbyists. Seriously, our elected officials need to wear patches like NASCAR drivers so we know who's bought and paid for them.

As for "entitlements," before we start slashing Medicare and Social Security, how about we look into the biggest "entitlement" of all, defense spending?

fitty_three
fitty_three

@fhmadvocat  

There were conservatives who did debate.

Paulejb just invites debate over his lies.

kbanginmotown
kbanginmotown

@fhmadvocat I love a good debate, too, fhmadvocat. Sadly, arguing with Dining Room Tables is not what I consider debate...

fitty_three
fitty_three

@La_Randy

I was liking discussions.  Now it's back to paulejb peeing around corners.

TerryClifton
TerryClifton

@mantisdragon91 @TerryClifton  

Me too, but there comes a time when you can over-regulate, and the EPA has been guilty of that for many years. They want to close down industry, even after industry follows the rules. Ms. Jackson lost her job because she broke the law, and when those emails come out, it's going to be even more clear that the current EPA has a anti-industry agenda.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Why don't I drop you of in Beijing for a few days, and them you can tell us your thoughts on the importance of air quality.

La_Randy
La_Randy

@paulejb @mantisdragon91 "The endless plea. "Stop me before I spend again."

I would not be repeating the republican mantra here. Unless there was a Democratic Party President...Oh wait.