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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie answers a question during a town hall meeting in Manchester, N.J., March 29, 2012.

“Yeah, you’re damn right I’d be more ready.”
— New Jersey Governor Chris Christie when asked by the Star-Ledger if he is better prepared for a 2016 presidential run than he was for the 2012 cycle. Gov. Christie has been commended by Democrats and Republicans alike for his response to Hurricane Sandy.
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fitty_three
fitty_three

My estimation of Christie has gone up by a bunch, but he's still an royal a-hole.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

Every person on the GOP's ticket since Ford has been the runner up in the previous election's primaries.  It's going to be Santorum.

Tero
Tero

Kevin Groenhagen is a fraud and a liar. He also has not honoured his bet to leave Swampland if Obama was reelected.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

He can as prepared as he likes, he'll never get the nomination from his party, and he be even less likely to win the election.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

If Christie can survive the Primaries, he wins the election against anyone not named Clinton (and I don't think she'll run).  He has to survive the Primaries first - not easy.

One interesting factoid that came out of this Primaries is it is clear that there is enough of the Republican base that wants crazy but also is looking for competent and quickly become disillusioned when the latter is disproven (and really, there's nobody who passes the litmus test that also is competent).  Once the idiots are blown out of the field, you'll have Christie, Jeb and a handful of others.  Or they'll get a purist candidate, get creamed and we'll talking about who is running for 2020

cent-fan
cent-fan

As Kevin the Groan has already illustrated Christie doesn't have a chance.  As long as he enters the primaries in the R camp he's going to be lost in the noise machine of an army of right-wingers who think "now's my time".  Christie won't pass the primary litmus test, especially if he sounds exactly like the bent-to-the-right Democrats populating the alternative.  But, like Romney, it's possible to go far by simply saying "No, I did not say that the way it sounded like I meant to say it in a completely different context and I've rethought my life and I'm sorry".

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

Christie could have had a chance if not for his erratic behavior post-Sandy.

sacredh
sacredh

Chris needs to develop a strategy to deal with the Tea Party. Bipartiasan isn't going to fly with them.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@Tero 

You anonymous coward!  Blah blah blah no time line stated, blah blah blah Socialism!  I SMOLDER WITH GENERIC RAGE!

jitty015
jitty015

@forgottenlord I've seen this movie before...maybe in 2008. No one could beat the Clinton machine -- especially not a freshman senator from Illinois with a name that sounded a little too close to Osama (a fact which was used by his opponent in that Senate race). And it's this fact that's the reason why we're in the second term of Hilary Clinton's presidency...oh, wait. My point? 2016 is a while from now and we have absolutely no clue who might emerge on either side between now and then.

sacredh
sacredh

Erratic behavior? You mean like saying that Obama was helping when he was helping? That kind of erratic behavior? You mean like putting the welfare of the people of his state above a political agenda? That kind of erratic behavior?

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@sacredh But the Constitution does fly with the Tea Party. It obviously doesn't with you and other socialists.

sacredh
sacredh

You spelled geriatric wrong.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@jitty015

Perhaps, but Obama is a phenom because he can defy normal analysis.  Those don't happen very often, prohibitive favorites tend to win, and movements of that scale are rare.  Other outcomes are possible, but they are not probable - and the entire point is moot because I really don't believe Clinton will run anyway.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@sacredh Gushing over Springsteen is a bit erratic. Attacking those who oppose pork is erratic.

sacredh
sacredh

No, the Tea Party just interprets the Constitution to fit their own agenda. And what's wrong with being a socialist?

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@sacredh "Called for induction when he was 18, Springsteen failed his physical examination and did not serve in Vietnam. In an interview in Rolling Stone magazine in 1984, he said, "When I got on the bus to go take my physical, I thought one thing: I ain't goin'."

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@KevinGroenhagen @sacredh 

Who cares if he gushes over Springsteen?  Wouldn't it also be irresponsible for Christie to NOT seek maximum assistance for his state after Sandy?

grape_crush
grape_crush

The Romney campaign liked Nugent then distanced themselves when the loon kept yapping. They were, however, huge Kid Rock fans.


sacredh
sacredh

Springsteen is a native son of New Jersey. How about the Romney campaign gushing over a nut case like Ted Nugent?

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

@KevinGroenhagen @DonQuixotic @sacredh 

Non sequitur as usual Kevin.  Please outline to me which policies Obama (or the Democrats even) support are Socialistic.  Clearly there must be some if they're "socialists".  Should we use a broad term?  Do you believe in things like public education, power/water, roads and utilities?  If so you're a Socialist too, you little red Commie you.

forgottenlord
forgottenlord

@KevinGroenhagen

"Those killed in the name of socialism were killed in accordance with socialist principles."

BULL

Socialist principles are about helping the less fortunate, not murdering the rich.  Socialists hate the Communists - and Marx would be ashamed of the direction the Communists took for they violate the ideals he set forth

bobell
bobell

@KevinGroenhagen @sacredh And those killed in the name of Christianity weren't killed in accordance with Christian principles?

Oh, sure, all those "Christian" killings don't count, because the people who committed them were wrong about what Christianity was supposed to be. But has it ever occurred to you that all those killings in the name of socialism were acommitted by people who were wrong about what socialism was supposed to be?

Bloodlust will find a way.

sacredh
sacredh

Do the Crusades ring a bell? I'm sure the people of France and other european countries feel "enslaved". Mindless jingoisms and rhetoric.

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@sacredh Those killed in the name of socialism were killed in accordance with socialist principles. You can't say the same about Christianity. Also, note that it was Christians who made up the abolitionist movement in this country, while socialism, by design, enslaves.

sacredh
sacredh

Christianity over the ages has killed millions too. Your point?

KevinGroenhagen
KevinGroenhagen

@sacredh Socialism is its various forms killed over 100 million people during the 20th century. Wouldn't you consider that "wrong." The Constitution and socialism are incompatible. The former essentially made the latter unconstitutional.