Israel Pushes Washington to Give Iran an Ultimatum

Israeli Finance Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz to Obama Administration: give Iran an ultimatum.

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Dr. Yuval Steinitz, Israel's Finance Minister, in New York on Sept. 20, 2011.

Israeli Finance Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz parachuted into Washington Monday for two days of meetings focusing mainly on Iran. Steinitz’s main message to the Obama Administration: it’s time to give Iran an ultimatum.

“They need something in addition to the sanction and in addition to the statements” made thus far by President Obama, Steinitz told reporters over breakfast at the Mayflower Hotel. “They need a credible ultimate, a credible threat. They are waiting for something like this to happen.”

Steinitz’s visit comes the same day as Obama is expected to nominate former Republican Senator Chuck Hagel to replace Leon Panetta at the Pentagon. Several conservative Jewish groups have come out against Hagel’s nomination over worries that Hagel, who opposed the war in Iraq, might be too dovish and could roll back Obama’s commitment to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Steinitz said the timing was purely coincidental – the meeting was a rain check from several months ago – and said “it is not our custom to interfere with democratic procedures of other countries.”

Still, he made it clear that Israel is impatient with the lack of progress on Iran, and that he would be pushing Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and other Administration officials to not only close certain loopholes in the sanctions against Iran but to take a stronger verbal stance on deadlines. “Of course, we would prefer… a diplomatic solution,” Steinitz said. “But sanctions with negotiation seems to be insufficient. Currently, they’re not in the mood of giving up their nuclear program. They’re exploiting the talks thus far in order to gain time to refine more uranium.”

Though Iran seems to have indicated an openness for bilateral talks with the U.S. and a renewal of the so-called P5+1 – the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, plus Germany – process, little progress has been made since the U.S. elections as had been expected. A P5+1 meeting has been agreed to in January, though a date and venue have yet to be set. Meanwhile, only incremental headway was made in December negotiations between the International Atomic Energy Agency, which has been seeking unfettered inspections of Iran’s nuclear sites, and Tehran.

When asked if the window for negotiations might be narrow given the approaching Iranian presidential elections in June, Steinitz scoffed. “It’s not like the Dalai Lama is running for president. The nuclear program was there long before [current Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad,” he said. “Whomever is president doesn’t matter, it is the determination and dedication of the religious leaders, of [Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali] Kamenei.”

144 comments
StevenNewman
StevenNewman

Oh, so you think we should \capitulate to the terrorists. Sorry, Iran is a terrorist state.  It supports terrorists and it will use a nuclear weapon if it gets one.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

Calm down Ryanhaaa.  I'll let you in on a little secret; the Pentagon brass were lying.  The truth is that a continuous bombing campaign would prevent the Iranians from developing a bomb.  Remember; you never tell your enemy the truth.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

Tell that to Alwacky's son.   I'm not interested in the genocide of the Iranian people.  Neither are the Israelis, but it sure seems that the Iranians are interested in genocide against Israel. The moment the first bomb lands the Ayatollah will realize that he was mistaken in his belief that the US won't use force.  First, he will seek to stop the bombing.  After agreeing to inspections, etc. etc, the bombing will stop and the Ayatollah will start thinking of a plan to use a terrorist group like HAMAS or Hezbollah to get revenge.   Hopefully, the Iranians will someday get a democracy and the fanatics along with the Iron Guard will be out.

OhCmon
OhCmon

"Still, he made it clear that Israel is impatient with the lack of progress on Iran..."  He was obviously making a crass joke;  U.S. taxpayers pay between 123-140 billion dollars in annual aid to Israel, obviously Americans will decide who's permitted to get impatient about anything, and when.  

"Steinitz scoffed. 'It’s not like the Dalai Lama is running for president...'"  How many hundreds of thousands of children has Iran blown up compared to Iran.  Who's better positioned to "scoff" about anything?  Do we really have to pay for this twisted nonsense?  



mqurashi8
mqurashi8

Will there be a time when we, the US, be able to conduct our affairs without the concern for Israel. Israel has been receiving $3.8 billion annual military aid for decades now and is the mightiest armed camp in the ME. In the selection of our Defence Secratary our representatives are looking for any statement that Senator Hagel might have made that offended Israel. Same is being said about Obama's nomination of the CIA Director.

Reading or listening to some of the media from the rest of the world, including Europeans, one gets the impression that US has been sacrificing its principles of human rights and justice in order to enable Israeli government's pursuit of its policies of land grab and human rights violations. Now they want us to get into another war based on Israeli PM's whim. He had been interfering in our interal affairs openly and covertly. Let us take care of our own interests. Another war while one of the two is still stalemated will be an economic disaster not only ofr the US but also for the rest of the world.  

YehudaElyada
YehudaElyada

You don’t have to worry about protecting Israel. We can manage our defenses by ourselves, either deterrence or retaliation, without a single GI coming into jeopardy. Even the Iranians know this, and if you have a chance to look at the ME map you’ll notice why: a full 1,000 Miles of Arab territory separate our two countries. The people who really need protection are the super-rich but internally weak oil kingdom of Arabia and its even weaker protégés. If you let Iran go nuclear, they wouldn’t dare test our resolve, but they will spread intimidation over every Arab regime between Afghanistan and Tunisia. And the West will have no option but to pay 10 times more for oil and be banished from the ME until Armageddon.

Ellcee
Ellcee

Iam no fan of Bayrock Oblama, I am a fan of the United States CEO office. But, Isreal has no right trying to dictate our policy concerning the terrorist state of the Persians, Iran. They do not need to rattle our sabre. They just need to continue to take the U.S. taxpayers money and shut the F up. They do not need to advise us when or where our brave service members will shed blood. The U.S. will act when and where we choose to, without the Isreali guidance or advice. They should just feel lucky that President Truman, against good advice, recognized them, when the rest of the world was against it. We will act against the Persians when and where want. We have numerous scores to settle with them, 30 plus years worth. So again, Isreal, STFU.

Junk.Mail
Junk.Mail

Just tell Iran that the US is letting Israel off its chain and selling them conventional weapons that may be useful in a strike and defense against potential retaliation (as Iran does for Hamas), and let Israel give Iran whatever ultimatum it wants. The US shouldn't pretend to be neutral in this, but those with the most at stake, whether it works or goes horribly wrong should really take primary responsibility and risk. Besides, with all due respect to US troops, the Israelis are probably better trained for this type of thing.  They certainly don't face the political fallout that the US does.

MarkBau
MarkBau

Still to be explained is how Israel can be so agitated by Iran allegedly wanting nukes when Israel has a whole arsenal of nukes. Why aren't they pushing for a nuke free Middle East? Utter hypocrites!

Baileys789
Baileys789

Oh boy, the US does not need an invasion of Iran after the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan; after all those dismembered young men. However all Israeli lovers in the States are free to go and volunteer and join the excellent Israeli army.

bmirhossaini
bmirhossaini

I wonder how long you can admire the american ruling system, they do only things where they have benefit  not always even for all americans but for few capitalist minded people. They are the one who used the first atomic bomb, they poison gas in different countries, tested light uranium bombs, support the most cruel regimes of the world who knows only killing but they still support but still dare to say that they are supporting human rights and democracy, yes demo-crazy by force that's what what exactly going on in Syria by supporting the Alqaeda groups with all sophistacated and all other means  so over there they are not terrorist but freedom fighters but since years the poor palestinians are fighting with stones for their own home land they are called terrorist and so and so on........... 

MikeKry
MikeKry

The United States is not Israel's donkey

guilhermepa
guilhermepa

@StevenNewman Israel and US are the real terrorists nowadays... US warmongers should  settle down for at least a hundred years so this stereotype of dumb-conqueror-interested-in-money-only should be forgotten. US has invaded a dozen countries, overthrew another dozen democratically elected presidents, invaded Iraq after they supported the already dictator Hussein because at the time they had interested in it, then made up an excuse to invade it , now MonSanto and other companies drain Iraq and Afghanistan resources just to name a few things US has irresponsably done to this date. Your comment lacks a profound reflection that the whole contemporary history requires. Sorry.

EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman Once again, you are talking nonsense. Israel and the U.S. are the biggest terrorist countries in the world. The U.S. is also the biggest terrorist sponsor in the world. Have you heard of the Jundullah or MEK? The bloody terrorist "rebels" in Syria are supported by the U.S.. Also, the U.S. supported murderous Saddam Hussein when he attacked Iran.

Iran has not engaged in ANY acts of terrorism. The bombing in Argentina had nothing to do with Iran. The supposed plot on the Saudi ambassador was a false flag operation by the FBI. Iran support both Hamas and Hezbollah, neither of which is a terrorist group. They are defending their people against the terrorist acts of criminal Israel.

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman 

u can rest in your world ! 

george promised : to never let NK to have nuclear weapons, everybody the end of story lol 

between 2002 and 2005 our friend george said 12 times : " all options are on the table "  ! and evend said : "it's vitale interest that NK korea allow inspection "


so dream on


you said " The truth is that a continuous bombing campaign would prevent the Iranians from developing a bomb."

unless you r more informed than all militaries brass and experts NO, even continous bombing would work, and as explained by colin kahln and Robert gates any news rebuild facilities will be an hidden, and more deep facilities, you assume that iranians are idiot and WILL NOT GO COMPLETLY HIDDEN IF ATTACK lol

look what michael hayden bush NSA director think about an attack on iran :

" when we talked about this in the government, the consensus was that [attacking Iran] would guarantee that which we are trying to prevent -- an Iran that will spare nothing to build a nuclear weapon and that would build it in secret," Hayden told a small group of experts and reporters at an event hosted by the Center for the National Interest 

oh yes you never told the true to ur ennemy Right !

Robert Gates  in october 2012 :

" an attack would make a nuclear armed iran  INEVITABLE " 

CHUK HAGEL put his signature on a document that concluded the inevitability of a nuclear Iran, no further than last September.


do you think obama is not aware, when he chose Hagel?

BTW when we speak, there is simply no evidence that Iran currently does not already armle the nuclear, sorry but yes you will have ( in israel ) to live with a nuclear iran.






EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman You are talking total nonsense. Israelis learned very well how to commit Genocide from the Nazis. That is exactly what they have been doing to the Palestinian. Iran has never committed genocide and will never commit genocide. You are just repeating the paranoid garbage that come out of the lying mouth of Netanyahu. 

If you still believe the myth about Iran wanting to "wipe out Israel," you are hopelessly ignorant. This is such a stupid myth that I am not even going to argue about it. You shouldn't be writing comments about Iran if you still believe this garbage.

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman 

your taling big, BIGO

iranian are going to have the ultimate deterrence and there is nothing the US can do at acceptable cost......periode

in march 2012, ask   by the senat , if US miltary option can stop iranian nukes James Mattis the commander of powerful CENTCOM answerd NO

James Mattis : " the best we can do is to delay them, we have a few options "

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/6/general-us-military-cant-stop-iran-making-nukes/?page=all


and all militarie brass and expert agree with him, at this DAY no one among the pentagon has opposite Mattis claime ! 

thta's the only important thing,, what YOU, YOU won't allow or accept is just not revellent !

iran will have the ultimate deterrence. periode

Junk.Mail
Junk.Mail

@OhCmon "123-140 billion dollars in annual aid to Israel." Israel is an expensive mistress, but not that expensive: I think you have exaggerated by several orders of magnitude.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@OhCmon Methinks you are about $118-135Billion over.  Where did you come up with those numbers?  US aid to Israel is about $5 Billion per year and most of it comes from the Camp David accords.  Egypt is the second largest recipient of aid for the same reason.

mqurashi8
mqurashi8

There is no doubt that Israel is fully capable to undertake its defence and rataliations. Why do we have the Finance Minister Steinitz directing US to deliver an ultimatum to Iran. Middle East will be losing its significance with respect to energy within a short period of time as the US will not only be self sufficient, but will be exporting the fuel. This should also concern Israel. Because that shift will also make Israel less important to the US. A war against Iran will not be like attackin Gaza or demolishing homes in the West Bank, it will be very protracted conflict crossing many borders. That will really mess up the world economies. Our adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq has proven that.

Steinitz message could be another attempt by Mr. Natanyahu to shape our government after his failure to get Romney get elected. Or it could be to bolster his own prospects in the upcoming Israeli elections.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@MarkBau Difference is that Israel hasn't used the nukes while Iran has alluded to destroying Israel the moment they can.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@Baileys789 Just wanted to point out that I never advocated an invasion of Iran and wouldn't.  That doesn't mean we can't bomb back to the 15th century.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@MikeKry As I said before, the day after the Iranians get an atomic bomb will be the day they give one to HAMAS or Hezbollah and tell them to float it into New York harbor.

sjnwmn
sjnwmn

@guilhermepa @StevenNewman Iran killed innocent children, women, and men because they were Argentinian Jews.  It has bankrolled HAMAS and Hezbollah and paid for terrorist attacks throughout the world.  Don't be sorry.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@EarthView @StevenNewman Nothing like an anti-Semite to clear the field.  And where is the genocide in Gaza/West Bank.  Most Palestinians are a hell of a lot safer than most Syrians.

EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman @MarkBau As I said separately, you are woefully ignorant about Iran. So, just shut up about Iran wanting to destroy Israel. It is a total lie. Google for a document called, "Rumor of the Century." Read it and shut up about this nonsense.

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @MarkBau 


Do you know who is the Minister Dan Meridor ?


he publicly admited " iran never called  to wipp out  israel " finally the true is said !

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @bmirhossaini 


a nuclear device weighs a ton and average radiation are visible from space!

have you ever heard of anti nuclear detector placed of helicopters?

in accordance with all Western intelligence agencies, iran is a rational actor.

everyone agrees on this including:

Robert Gates, Benny Gantz, Meir Dagan, Ehprahim halevy, Tamir Padron, Martin Dempsey, James Clapper etc ...

menthal Health of Netanyahu and Barak is much more questionable


Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @bmirhossaini 


your pathetic ad hominem attack does't reach me !


weighs a ton and average radiation are visible from space!

have you ever heard of anti nuclear detector placed of helicopters?

in accordance with all Western intelligence agencies, iran is a rational actor.

everyone agrees on this including:

Robert Gates, Benny Gantz, Meir Dagan, Ehprahim halevy, Tamir Padron, Martin Dempsey, James Clapper etc ...

menthal Health of Netanyahu and Barak is much more questionable




Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @MikeKry 


ho boy, nuclear weapons is simply not something that can be given, or even undetectable.

radiations simply cannot being hidden in a bag of air.

stop stupidity, and play the " expert of miami"


EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman @MikeKry You have no idea what you are talking about. In the first place, Iranians are not getting a bomb, Secondly, nuclear bombs are not like candy that you give to your children. Besides, Iranian leaders are extremely responsible and rational people unlike the lunatics who are in charge of Israel. Also, even Hamas and Hezbollah are not as barbaric as the Israelis. So, even if they had nukes, they would not use them. You have been fooled by the paranoid rants of Netanyahu and the neo-cons.

giraffe73
giraffe73

@StevenNewman @MikeKry 

To steven, 

Dont think iranians nor Hamas are that stupid... 

Nuclear weapon has always been used as a deterrent...

guilhermepa
guilhermepa

@sjnwmn OK but US also does that when he supports terrorists agains one against the other (i.e. iraq, afeghanistan, libia, iran, etc) The thing is theyre very stubborn at the moment so people will keep dying because of disrespect to the human rights but things are a lot more watched nowaedays and the killing and laying low - politicians are not killed and kidnapped like before in Iran, Ahmadinejad today congratulated the new pope and so it goes. But US going o war is just an excuse to feed the weapon industry and some congress men, theres no real need of war. Terrorists will continue their work for a long time but until it is proved Iran's government is envolved with that, it is crazy to attack then. It could start a world war.

EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman @EarthView Now, you sound utterly stupid. When did innocent women get shot by snipers in the street in Iran? If you are talking about Neda, it was a Single case that you know nothing about. What proof do you have that it was the government who shot her? For what? Do you think they are crazy like the bloody U.S. airmen who slaughtered innocent Iraqi journalists and photographers as reported by Wikileaks? Have you seen the video?

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@EarthView @StevenNewman  I've been to Gaza.  Why don't move to Syria.  Or maybe that wonderful democracy, Iran, where innocent women are shot by snipers while walking on the street.

EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman @EarthView Sure, I invite you to move to Gaza and try it out. You won't last one week. As for antisemitism, you belong to the standard lunatic Zionist fringe that equates any criticism of Israel as antisemitism. There is no point in arguing with you. You are hopelessly lost.

EarthView
EarthView

@StevenNewman @EarthView @MarkBau So what? What did he say that was untrue? Do you have a brain?

Did you read the document that I suggested? Are you still going to continue your asinine comments about Iran wanting to "destroy" poor little innocent Israel?

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@EarthView @StevenNewman @MarkBau If you ever make a serious comment, please let me know.   Here is just a couple of statements from Iran's president:    


April 20, 2011
"They say they want to create a new and greater
Middle East under the U.S. and the Zionist regime's (Israel) dominance. I am
telling you that a new and greater Middle East will be established without the
existence of the U.S. and the Zionist regime…. In recent years, regional
nations have realized that the United States and the Zionist regime are their
main enemies…. Arrogant powers try to deceive nations. They have put the
Iranian nation under pressure to oblige it to retreat but the resistance of
Iranians and their steadfastness has led to their (the West's)
defeat...."
(Address to a large crowd in the Iranian city of
Sanandaj)
April 17, 2010
"The era of Zionism and capitalism has passed away."

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @Ryanhaaa @bmirhossaini 


Robert Gates, Benny Gantz, Meir Dagan, Ehprahim halevy, Tamir Padron, Martin Dempsey, James Clapper etc ...

menthal Health of Netanyahu and Barak is much more questionable

that's my answer to you !


StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@Ryanhaaa @StevenNewman @bmirhossaini   You just making this stuff up as you go along?  Please cite references for this.  Of course Iran is a rational actor.  If you think bombing a JCC in Argentina, bombing US forces at Khobar Towers or US Marines in Beirut is rational.  Stop being an apologist for terrorists!

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@Ryanhaaa @StevenNewman @MikeKry   Nuclear weapons can't be hidden?  In Iran?  Why not?   And if you think they are easily detectable or leaking radiation you do not know what you are talking about.

ZachAviv
ZachAviv

@StevenNewman@EarthView@MikeKryI may have view that makes some uncomfortable but it your loss to restrict your vision on world. Even as Jew I would not say Iranian as idiot. inferior yes, but idiot no. Many here see Iranian as idiot and this mean our control of western media working. We want bad feeling on Iran so people in west allow us to attack it. Many people in West more idiot than Iranian. You are a wonderful tool Newman. I love it. Actually both Israel and Iranian regime is wicked. Israel just more insidious and hiding it. But my blood is Jew so I have to help ISrael. My father was in the Russian Army(red Army) fighting afghanistan before but now in Israel military.

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @Ryanhaaa @EarthView @MikeKry 


an independent state on 60% of thewest bank !

with an air space, the borders and maritime borders controlled by israel? un independant state you said ?

if I was arafat, I would not sign either




StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@Ryanhaaa @StevenNewman @EarthView @MikeKry  So was Arafat!  He never wanted an independent Palestinian state.  He wanted to destroy Israel which is why he insisted on the 'Right of Return'.  The Palestinians had several offers that they turned down which were a lot better than anything that Bibi is going to offer them.  

Ryanhaaa
Ryanhaaa

@StevenNewman @EarthView @MikeKry 


" israel while Israel is not dedicated to the destruction of HAMAS."

you ' r right i agree.

israel is dedicated to destroy any viable palestinian state option, that' the true !



StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@EarthView @StevenNewman @MikeKry Lets leave the personal attacks to the GOP.  Of course the Iranians are trying to get a bomb.  Why else would they live under such strong economic sanctions that are making their lives miserable?  Why else would they refuse inspections and why would the inspectors that were allowed into some sites report that Iran was developing an atomic weapon?  Iranian leaders are responsible for hundreds of American deaths.  They truly believe we are Satan.  HAMAS and Hezbollah are less barbaric than the Israelis?  You are joking right?  HAMAS shoots rockets at Israeli civilian targets.  They hide their weapons under hospitals and near their schools.  They are dedicated to the destruction of Israel while Israel is not dedicated to the destruction of HAMAS.

ZachAviv
ZachAviv

@StevenNewman@giraffe73@MikeKryListen. The president of Iran is no less of puppet than president of US. Neither have any real power. They just follow script written by real power.

Obama follow Jewish Script. Ahmadinejad follow Islamic Supreme Leader script.

Iran is a country created by we Jews (following the WW1 we created ), and will be killed by we Jews.

 Irans days numbered. Just relaux.

StevenNewman
StevenNewman

@giraffe73 @StevenNewman @MikeKry Not that stupid?  They thought they could get away with bombing a JCC in Argentina, with bombing Khobar Towers, and with bombing the Marine barracks in Beirut.  What makes you think these guys are smart?  Besides, they have a Armageddon complex.