“I think that's absolutely wrong. I don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we're going as a party.”— Lousiana Governor Bobby Jindal, rejecting Mitt Romney's contention that Romney's defeat to Barack Obama was the result of Obama lavishing "gifts" on minority groups and young voters
I'd rather the party be honest, than to be nice and be complicit in running the country into the ground. There is absolutely no doubt that the progressive strategy of class, gender, ethnic and race warfare worked. Unfortunately, when the basest instincts of man are successful, they portend man's failure.
Maybe you ought to tell Rush Limbaugh this.
Interesting. Every time you shake your academic tree, you claim different degrees from different schools. And, in the final analysis, you can't even avoid confusing "there" with "their".
My point? You make it beautifully.
You are a fraud. Your understanding of economics is limited to what Rush Limbaugh has told you.
The only one you have fooled, or impressed, is yourself.
@Marky_D_Sodd @superlogi @53_3 Marky I have a BA in Bio from the U of Minn., a BS in Chem from the U of Wisc., and an MBA from St. Thomas College, currently referred to as the University of St. Thomas Opus School of Management. I never read any William Shakespear other than incidentally. With regard to Friedman, Keynes, Mills, Smith, Ricardo, Marx and Engles, Samuelson and many, many others, more contemporary, I'm quite familiar with there work, never having met them personally. What your point is, is anyone's guess, but it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Marky, what you really need to do is focus. Not only are you confusing the issue, you appear to be confused.
Possibly the problem is in your irrational assumption that you have anything to teach, to anyone.
Even if one wants to work on cars or be employed in athletics at some level, and are actually good enough to do it for a living, in virtually any school system in the US, you will have to study William Shakespear.
Yet it is virtually impossible for one to meet Adam Smith, David Ricardo, John Maynard Keynes, Filton Firedman or any other economist whose theories in one way or another might dominate your life. The reason of course is simple: your teachers haven't met them either. There is virtually no economic, business or finance education conducted in grades 1-12 in this country in the curriculum of an average public school system. At best, a general history course will briefly touch on them in discussing Renaissance Italy or Depression Era USA, as if economics was about dead people, instead of the national life-blood.
It is bloody impossible to graduate as an american without having played touch football in gym class, but most will buy their first car or house without ever having formal education in how one loan differs from another, or where that money actually comes from, because no one ever taught them.
Now, of course, there will be a stream of naysayers who claim that there is an elective offered, for one semester or even one half semester (sometimes sharing it with "health") , usually in the non-college-bound tracks. It often falls under a heading such as consumer education, usually taught by a teacher whose only education in the field IS as a consumer. If you think math and science degrees are rare below the college level, try finding one with a finance, economics or even simple degree in business!
Arguably the second most powerful person in the country is Ben Bernanke, but how many could even explain what the Federal Reserve is, much less the name of the Chairman? What could a high school senior chosen at random more easily identify, the major rivers of the world or the major revenue streams of the Federal government?
Why does it matter? Well, exactly how many of American voters really understood the last election campaign or of course the 'fiscal cliff'? How many ignorant pieces are written each week across the US, comparing Social Security to a Ponzi scheme or claiming that Obamacare will be the financial ruin of the nation?
It is easy to fool voters in this country, on either side of the political aisle, when they consisder themselves to be more informed economically speaking BECAUSE they watch MSNBC or Fox News!
Mitt Romeny does not seem to always speak intelligently, and he put his foot into his mouth by attempting to attribute his defeat in the presidential election to President Obama's lavishing "gifts"--such as social security benefits, Obamacare and other government assistance-- to minorities and young voters. He really does not have to explain why Obama won his re-election by insulting the intelligence and dignity of the suppoters of the Democratic Party. The truth is that the majority of Amricans re-elected Obama for his vision and policies for the nation and the people--not because of "gifts" or bribes. To suggest that political candidates can buy off the voters in elections is an insult to the American system of democracy.
I believe that Romney is a good person who, with his wealth and compassion, wishes to serve and lead the world's greatest country. However, his vision and policies for America are too conservative for the new electorate, and are not necessarily good for the nation. If he had run on the Democratic platform, he could have spoken and acted differently--and would also have been elected President of the United States.
I'm not surprised by the behavior of many of the Republicans that pulled away and turned on Romney when he didn't win... This is so typical of their character. As long as they thought he could stop President Obama from having a second term in office, they were on his side, pushing his agenda and providing their support. Didn't matter that he wasn't genuine and don't care or have a clue about the AVERAGE person. The BEST person to run this country was and still is in office... President Barack Obama.
It's funny how all these GOP leaders such as Jindal, Bush and Barbour were pushing Romney's arguments before he lost the election, but are doing an about-face now. Just as Romney pretended to be a real moderate during the last couple of weeks, these guys, many of whom have bigger political aspirations in future elections are suddenly using arguments that they have got to be more like Democrats and change their policies. Just like George Bush, Romney has become a political outcast in a party that is desperately seeking an identity before it's too late. Their realization is accurate and may eventually benefit the political situation in this country so that something can finally get done in Congress.
@Dan504 Republicans acting like Democrats is what got us into the mess we're in. And, getting something done is defined by the left as increasing the size of government and providing more things to the herd to keep it satisfied and docile.
Bobby, it was absolutely the case and what it demonstrates is as a country, particularly the young and the undereducated, how entitled we've become.
Here's someplace else the republican party is at:
John McCain skips a classified briefing on Benghazi because he was holding a press conference to.....ask for an investigation of Benghazi. D0uchebag.
I heard that on radio as well, that's the travesty of righties - they're so damn clueless. This should be blasted in mass media to discredit the farce that is McCain and company. It's clear that they're not really interested in Benghazi (see also Fast and Furious) - they're interested in the political circus.
@sacredh I find it just incredible that the man who picked Caribou Barbie as his running mate has the stones to trash anyone else's pick of anyone for anything … and the press takes him seriously.
This man forfeited his right to question anyone's judgment the moment he introduced us to Sarah Palin.
@evil.aaronm @Sue_N @sacredh The press loves John McCain too much to ignore him. They're still blinded by all that "maverick" nonsense and his reputation as a war hero (again, our country's unhealthy worship of the military). Never mind the fact that he's never shown as a senator the kind of courage and honor he did as a POW, or that he's become a bitter, angry old man whose best days are behind him and who apparently cannot get over the fact that Obama kicked his ass in 2008.
Mccain didn't want anything to interfere with is lashing out at Obama for having the temerity to beat him in 08 - I mean for Rices statements.. @sacredh
"Earth to Mitt Romney: you can stop fellating the racist, brainwashed Republican base, they're just not that into you."
Ssshhhh. I only look like a brainwashed rascist. Mitt, don't stop.
I saw it coming a mile away. First he started with the gay marriage (not because he believes its right but because he knew he would get votes). Next he did the Dreamers Act( which isnt an act because congress never approved it but he implemented anyways). Then he went after college kids with the loan intrest(which doesnt matter because their will not be any jobs for you after college). And the big one which he probably does believe in is Obamacare( which is economically unsustanable but that never stop us before).
@curt3rd so you're saying the president actually tried to serve the needs of the majority of Americans rather than catering to the few giant pigs at the trough? how dare he!
@curt3rd I guess all those millionaires who funded Romney's campaign wanted nothing.
They were just being altruistic and funding his campaign for the unwashed masses benefit.
What's next? "Pandering" to black Americans?
Oh. Em. Gee....
The GOP has been burnt by rich boy Bush, entitled Admiral's son McCain and CEO offspringMitt...and lost the WHITE House to a BLACK man two elections in a row.The GOP will be looking for a real self made man this time.
Todd Palin, anybody?
In all fairness to Governor Jindal, I think he is right in that Romney blaming his election loss of "Obama giving away 'free stuff'" is way off. Jindal has a point as the Republicans have divided America into "givers" and "takers" and the problem is that Romney called the majority of the country, or at least 47% as "takers", including those who see themselves as contributing to society.
@fhmadvocat And Bobby has been an enabler for years.
@fhmadvocat Yes, what Romney said is wrong (and stupid), but it's also the party line. It's what the GOP has been saying since Willard lost as a way to explain his loss. And despite what Bobby says, that's not going to change.
It's just one more way the GOP is talking its way into total irrelevance.
Well, actually, Obama DID give away a free gift: the defeat of Romney.
Poor, poor Bobby. Of course that represents where you are going as a party. Haven't you been paying attention?
Earth to Mitt Romney: you can stop fellating the racist, brainwashed Republican base, they're just not that into you.
Obama mind control. And the reps think they can cure the illness they spread?
@apr2563 Stories like this make it embarrassing to live in Georgia. On the other hand, no state has a monopoly on nutcases or racists. In fact, the worst racist behavior I have ever personally observed occurred in Delaware and Michigan.
@apr2563 It really is frightening just how out of control the fringe has gotten. And the GOP has only itself to blame. They could have stomped on all this and killed it years ago. Instead, they fed it, nurtured it and thought they could use it. Now they're drinking from the well that they poisoned.
And my criticism of how my earlier comment disappeared has...disappeared.
Any bets on how long this one will last?
This is wonderful. A rogues gallery of pundit buffoonery.
Head of Maine GOP Suspects Voter Fraud Because ‘Dozens and Dozens of Black People’ Voted in the State
The stupid and bigotry continues. Maybe it was one black person. After all, "they all look the same".
Weren't the pundocracy saying that Mitt was really a moderate at heart? As usual, pundocracy = stupid.
@apr2563 I notice that none of them have said a word about Willard's continuing use of the word "illegals."
If only we could figure out why he lost …