Inside the Secret World of the Data Crunchers Who Helped Obama Win

Data-driven decisionmaking played a huge role in creating a second term for the 44th President and will be one of the more closely studied elements of the 2012 cycle

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Daniel Shea for TIME

"The cave" at President Obama's campaign headquarters in Chicago

The new megafile also allowed the campaign to raise more money than it once thought possible. Until August, everyone in the Obama orbit had protested loudly that the campaign would not be able to reach the mythical $1 billion fundraising goal. “We had big fights because we wouldn’t even accept a goal in the 900s,” said one of the senior officials who was intimately involved in the process. “And then the Internet exploded over the summer,” said another.

A large portion of the cash raised online came through an intricate, metric-driven e-mail campaign in which dozens of fundraising appeals went out each day. Here again, data collection and analysis were paramount. Many of the e-mails sent to supporters were just tests, with different subject lines, senders and messages. Inside the campaign, there were office pools on which combination would raise the most money, and often the pools got it wrong. Michelle Obama’s e-mails performed best in the spring, and at times, campaign boss Messina performed better than Vice President Joe Biden. In many cases, the top performers raised 10 times as much money for the campaign as the underperformers.

Chicago discovered that people who signed up for the campaign’s Quick Donate program, which allowed repeat giving online or via text message without having to re-enter credit-card information, gave about four times as much as other donors. So the program was expanded and incentivized. By the end of October, Quick Donate had become a big part of the campaign’s messaging to supporters, and first-time donors were offered a free bumper sticker to sign up.

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Predicting Turnout
The magic tricks that opened wallets were then repurposed to turn out votes. The analytics team used four streams of polling data to build a detailed picture of voters in key states. In the past month, said one official, the analytics team had polling data from about 29,000 people in Ohio alone — a whopping sample that composed nearly half of 1% of all voters there — allowing for deep dives into exactly where each demographic and regional group was trending at any given moment. This was a huge advantage: when polls started to slip after the first debate, they could check to see which voters were changing sides and which were not.

It was this database that helped steady campaign aides in October’s choppy waters, assuring them that most of the Ohioans in motion were not Obama backers but likely Romney supporters whom Romney had lost because of his September blunders. “We were much calmer than others,” said one of the officials. The polling and voter-contact data were processed and reprocessed nightly to account for every imaginable scenario. “We ran the election 66,000 times every night,” said a senior official, describing the computer simulations the campaign ran to figure out Obama’s odds of winning each swing state. “And every morning we got the spit-out — here are your chances of winning these states. And that is how we allocated resources.”

Online, the get-out-the-vote effort continued with a first-ever attempt at using Facebook on a mass scale to replicate the door-knocking efforts of field organizers. In the final weeks of the campaign, people who had downloaded an app were sent messages with pictures of their friends in swing states. They were told to click a button to automatically urge those targeted voters to take certain actions, such as registering to vote, voting early or getting to the polls. The campaign found that roughly 1 in 5 people contacted by a Facebook pal acted on the request, in large part because the message came from someone they knew.

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Data helped drive the campaign’s ad buying too. Rather than rely on outside media consultants to decide where ads should run, Messina based his purchases on the massive internal data sets. “We were able to put our target voters through some really complicated modeling, to say, O.K., if Miami-Dade women under 35 are the targets, [here is] how to reach them,” said one official. As a result, the campaign bought ads to air during unconventional programming, like Sons of Anarchy, The Walking Dead and Don’t Trust the B—- in Apt. 23, skirting the traditional route of buying ads next to local news programming. How much more efficient was the Obama campaign of 2012 than 2008 at ad buying? Chicago has a number for that: “On TV we were able to buy 14% more efficiently … to make sure we were talking to our persuadable voters,” the same official said.

The numbers also led the campaign to escort their man down roads not usually taken in the late stages of a presidential campaign. In August, Obama decided to answer questions on the social news website Reddit, which many of the President’s senior aides did not know about. “Why did we put Barack Obama on Reddit?” an official asked rhetorically. “Because a whole bunch of our turnout targets were on Reddit.”

That data-driven decisionmaking played a huge role in creating a second term for the 44th President and will be one of the more closely studied elements of the 2012 cycle. It’s another sign that the role of the campaign pros in Washington who make decisions on hunches and experience is rapidly dwindling, being replaced by the work of quants and computer coders who can crack massive data sets for insight. As one official put it, the time of “guys sitting in a back room smoking cigars, saying ‘We always buy 60 Minutes’” is over. In politics, the era of big data has arrived.

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273 comments
laughinplace
laughinplace

These guys did a superb job. It was fun to watch the many daily emails from "big names" flood my inbox and realize that the responses were being tracked to see who garnered the most replies and made the most $$. So I made sure I replied to the name I wanted to get the credit - Barack Obama - even if I had to go back a couple of days to find an email sent as if from him. Also noticed that my email address was analyzed - the address is of a university, so I was getting emails asking me to contact my "fellow students." Made me smile, cuz I'm a retiree of that university. Something they obviously had not thought of.     

yaypancakes
yaypancakes

President Obama, can your data team help me figure out this Yahoo! problem that's ruining my Wednesday?

JohnDahodi
JohnDahodi

I do not think too much about the real help of the digital tools rather than the stupidity of the GOP leadership in the House and Senate who did not bothered about the middle class and poor while fighting four long years for millionaires and billionaires (ii) Tea-Party goons, most of them belonged to the middle class and poor fought for the millionaires rights and above all severe bankruptcy of Romney to select another right wing radical as his running mate and accepting all the right wing radical social, political and economical programs but last 4 weeks changing his position just like any cheap prostitute change her beds. All these issues have contributed to the stunning lost of Romney and surprise win of Obama.

Janna
Janna

As someone among hundreds who participated in this campaign, I can attest to the extreme difficulty of it.. Dedication and a willingness to work hard  was the basis for thousands upon thousands  of calls to the swing states by volunteers .. It took bravery and education in order to speak to people directly with intelligence..This process took place in all sincerity for over a year just for volunteers in the states.. We were terrified the Right would ask us to move our clocks back to 1950..

We have come so far,.. we could not imagine a country so diverse being under the control of such haters who look down  women, minorities and gays.. we come in all colors , we help others who are not as successful, we do not hide our money offshore and we pay our taxes no matter what we make.

CHAP1022
CHAP1022

Great article demonstrating the power of data driven decisions. Instead of disbanding Obama's campaign team, why not retain them with a new mission - put their analytical skills to work on the fiscal cliff, national debt, and most importantly developing a pathway for bipartisan consensus.

TonyMcClay
TonyMcClay

"Cat out the Bag", Great article and discussion.  Personally the candidate I voted for was elected, but the point of this story is the "Big Data" is not in the conversation of the average person.  It promises new insights and innovation based on facts and analytical analysis.  Analysis and data mining to meet a business (Or in this case Political need).  I have always known the world would be introduced to this niche genre which promises much to many people by running simulations based on facts and using that information to make operational decisions to change an outcome.  The skills and experience in Statistics, Analytical Analysis, Big Data (Hadoop, NOSQL), Real Time Complex Event Processing, and all these skills are needed to drive decisions for all parts of life and business. 

DavidKamm
DavidKamm

Another example of the candidate winning by fooling the gullible public. He had NOTHING to recommend him, this time around, and he had no more than that the first time around.

godhelpusplease
godhelpusplease

Bring on the Communism that Obama wants.  Bring on the instability, guns and killing Obama wants.   Obama wants to destroy the USA with his class warfare.  That is what Obama wants.  He and his family will fly off with his big pension, million dollar speaking fees and live like a king and queen.  Obama has made the USA the laughing stock of the entire world. Obama’s presidency will be a movie in the future.A movie how a community organizer pulled the wool over enough people’s eyes to win the presidency and bring a great nation to its knees.

PamelaGrow
PamelaGrow

A fascinating article with many lessons, not only for future campaigns, but for nonprofit organizations as well.  When I saw so many comments, I was excited to read what others thought.  Instead I'm treated to the same barrage of ridiculous lies and innuendo from people who appear to be "educated" by Fox "News."  The better man won.  Get over it already and start figuring out why sane people left your base.

EvaGonzalez
EvaGonzalez

The man that bamboozled USA and the WORLD ! ( INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP ) ---------

Obama wrote this biography of himself to promote his first book back in 1991. Again, this was written in 1991 before he was even thought of as a competitive politician. Barack Obama says it himself he was born in Kenya and raised in Hawaii.

Either he lied (why?) or we are living through one of the truly greatest cover-ups & FRAUD of our time.SEARCH: Obama Admits Born in Kenya - Part 2 HARD EVIDENCESee all pertinent videos and SHARE

KateFernstrom
KateFernstrom

Unlike many of the posters here I am only going to comment on the results of the data mining. I found it extremely annoying to be one of those targeted for "personalized" email contact. Yes, I was for Obama, no I am not going to respond to many, multiple attempts per day get me to donate $3 to possibly have dinner with the President. No to Michelle. No to Sherrod. No to Sarah Benzing. I wasn't fooled by "personalized" emails from any of these people who nothing about me. I don't want dinner. I want a J O B, but I'm a white, middle aged female and I have a degree in communication and a better shot at winning one of those mythical dinner seats with George Clooney than I do at finding one. Unemployment may be at 7.9% but it's at 15% for women and probably higher than that for white women in my age group. I'm not a taker. I've worked hard all my life, paid taxes, given to charity and asked for no handouts. I didn't vote for Romney because I did not believe he would create jobs that would support me. I voted for Obama because I believe in human rights, even for women which the right doesn't seem to believe in. Those emails just got deleted. FIND ME A J O B!!!

Ingmar
Ingmar

this country needs to give a HUGE thanks to OBAMA and his computer geeks! our future is far more fair, honest and equitable thanks to these people!  

commarts
commarts

I like how the computer screen has The Matrix movie on in the background.

Emeka_talks
Emeka_talks

im sure there's still so much to work to do..

THENEWUSA
THENEWUSA

After George Bush Jr destroyed the USA and bankrupt the nation he is now no where to be found.

Bush, Romney, Trump and the liars on FOX NEWS are not fit to lick President Obama's shoes. The Republicans tactic of blaming the poor for everything will NEVER work in the New USA..But the rich never learn

THE NEW USA (Black,White,Latino,Gays,Women)HAVE ONCE AGAIN REJECTED THE RACISM AND HATRED OF THE SOUTH STATES.

Good Bye, Bush, Reagan,Trump..AND ROMNEY FOREVER

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

This is all fine and good and I fully believe this is how Obama won, but to what end?  Does all this sophisticated data mining mean he is the man for the job, who is capable of leading, or is HE being LEAD around by his team?  Seems to me, the latter.  I agree the RNC needs to catch up.  Their ORCA program failed miserably and apparently the volunteers lacked training.  I'm shocked - I certainly thought he was a better business man than it turns out.  Obama's TEAM deserved to win, how well that will work out for our country is another thing entirely.  He basically purchased his next term.  A term in which all the freebies that he enticed voters will will surely be cut to the bone as everyone must be seeing there is absolutely no money left to continue to pay for those freebies.  He is now beholding to the Unions who seem to be positioning themselves to retake America - so we shall see to what end all this high tech data mining will get us.  I'm afraid that it won't be the end these guru's were thinking it would be, but then again, I hope I'm wrong.

Rubben
Rubben

@Janna ¡You said it!, all races: latinos, blacks, arabs, gays, comunists etc have united against the hated whites. There is to much hatred among the diversity. It didn't matter about the trillon of dolar deficit of the budget, more important was that one not white were in the white house.

NatashaParkins
NatashaParkins

@TonyMcClay I totally agree with you 100%! Those who are not in the business of data collection and analysis have no idea how these things work....they don't understand that reality is not based on the opinions of the homogenous groupings we almost always surround ourselves with.

Janna
Janna

@DavidKamm  You seem to talk down to the Electorate like your  candidates who offered nothing but contradictions and pain to Americans and you make the  assumption  all Americans are dumb..even in light of this brilliant Obama campaign!! Which is why your team lost.. Disdain for everything and everyone except your good ol' boys.. I'm excited you will lose big again!And extinction is around the corner.

SAINTS
SAINTS

@EvaGonzalez Are you nuts??? Your republican party protects us"WE THE RICH"" AND SCREW THE POOR! BY THE WAY , we are all awared that it is because HE IS BLACK!! John Mccain ws born in Panama it never made the news!!! OOH BLACKS!1

AngrySpatz
AngrySpatz

@EvaGonzalez No one cares anymore for this nonsense - don't you get it?Continuing with this is simply silly.

TonyMcClay
TonyMcClay

@KateFernstrom I read your post, and will respond to your Data mining, "Personalized" email campaign.  I understand that finding a job is difficult for everyone and maybe more so for your demographic.  But I want to let you know there are many opportunities that are growing in the field of Data Analysis, especially around the term "Big Data."  Insights and communicating these insights have a very very bright future and will continue to grow.  The same technology that targeted you with those emails that annoyed you is very very beneficial for companies that can take advantage of it and communicate it.  I am on the technical side of this "NEW Job opportunities," but I know how important it is for the future, not just Political Elections.  It's an evolution of the Internet, mobile application, Big Data and analytics that will drive the communication.  So please get and stay involved.

marquesdjones@att.net
marquesdjones@att.net

I hope and pray you find a job. I believe you will. These are the times in life you must have faith. Don't put your trust in Obama. Pray to God who will provide all that you need in this life. Keep the faith. I voted for President Obama to but, my hope is not in him but, in God.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@KateFernstrom Why exactly do you think the right doesn't believe in women's rights?  I don't want you to spout rhetoric back at me, I want cold hard facts, proof that the right doesn't like or want women to be successful.  I just don't see it, but then I might have blinders on, so my mind is open and I want to know.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Ingmar So honest and fair that Obama received more than 100% of the vote in some of the swing states.  Humm.....the math seems a little fuzzy there, but then everything seems a little fuzzy and skewed where Obama is concerned....perhaps it has something to do with the fact that he hails from Chicago.

Cezar
Cezar

@THENEWUSA Did you speak for racism? When 96% of one population they vote for one person with same color interdependent of them political orientation WHAT IS THAT???? Answer..RACISM.One coin have a two side.   

nvinbc
nvinbc

@THENEWUSA And maybe obama will commit suicide tonight.  Hooray!

EvaGonzalez
EvaGonzalez

 The man that bamboozled USA and the WORLD ! ( INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP ) ---------Obama wrote this biography of himself to promote his first book back in 1991. Again, this was written in 1991 before he was even thought of as a competitive politician. Barack Obama says it himself he was born in Kenya and raised in Hawaii.

Either he lied (why?) or we are living through one of the truly greatest cover-ups & FRAUD of our time.

SEARCH: Obama Admits Born in Kenya - Part 2 HARD EVIDENCESee all pertinent videos and SHARE

readit
readit

@RitaHoeffner 

I hope unions take over, especially farm labor.  Those poor folks have it bad, and nobody cares.

agent.john.smith.neo
agent.john.smith.neo

@RitaHoeffner  

The datasets did not change voter preferences. Most of them still voted based on original preferences. The data mining exercise made it simpler easier and more efficient to pursuade them to actually vote. He did not purchase the election. He just made sure that those inclined to vote for him were sufficiently motivated to actually turn up at the polling stations. Which is what Romney's team was surprised. The turnout. But frankly if one of the election strategy is that the other guy's supporter will not turn up to polls, it is not a great sign.

The voters were already there who were supporting the President. The only issue was whether they would turn up. That is the biggest factor. The donors were always there, the datamining just made sure they were properly contacted. It was a statistical exercise in efficiency. No voting preferences were changed.

Independent1975
Independent1975

@RitaHoeffner You appear to be buying the nonsense the right wing echo chamber has been pumping out for four years that is almost wholly responsible for Romney's loss.  Any reasonably intelligent casual observer could have told you that whoever won in 08 would spend their first term cleaning up the mess from 8 years of profligate spending from the party that is supposed to be more fiscally conservative.  If you step into reality for just a moment and see what is actually happening you will see a president who attempted to work with Congress.  A Congress I might add that was comprised largely of members dedicated more to his demise than the good of America.  So much so that they began voting against their own legislation if he in any way supported it just so that he wouldn't have any "wins".  That being said he could have done a better job in his first term.  Continuing the weak dollar policy of that last 20 years was a huge mistake.  To say he purchased his next term is fair I suppose if you also accept that his businessman opponent attempted to do the same thing but failed.  I didn't vote for Obama this time though I did in 08 and my reasons for doing so were based on morality.  I didn't vote for Romney either fortunately I have that luxury living in California.  Try looking at the world with a balanced view just for a moment.  It might surprise you. 

Janna
Janna

@RitaHoeffner @KateFernstrom  Incredible that you can say 'out loud' that have not educated yourself.. The GOP and Fox depend on low information people like you who are too lazy to read about women's rights in this election. Thank heavens most women are unlike you and will fight for themselves and their daughters' future.

hlthy1
hlthy1

@RitaHoeffner I agree with BenFox. It's absolutely women's reproductive rights. From my point of view, conservatives want to punish women who accidentally become pregnant while the man who helped to create the situation slips out the back door, unnoticed and unpunished. People forget that one of the pro-choice choices is to have the baby and raise him/her, along with the choices to put the baby up for adoption or terminate the pregnancy. There needs to be a choice rather than the vanilla mandate: you will have that baby, whether you want to or not (and if you still want to terminate the pregnancy, I'm going to shove this device up into your vagina and describe the parts I see by order of The State. Maybe you should provide a name for the "baby" before we terminate, huh?). I'm the mother of four children and I will attest to the fact that pregnancy and childbirth are, at best, extremely uncomfortable, and at worst, life-threatening. I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to go through with it. And to answer questions from people who excitedly ask pregnant women about the gender of the baby, the name, etc. when that woman is planning to give the baby up for adoption? Awkward. How do you think the woman feels about this intrusion? It's really nobody's business except for the person who has to deal with it. The business of terminating a pregnancy is also nobody's business--especially a random politician's.

BenFox
BenFox

@RitaHoeffner

Reproductive rights. Equal pay for women. These are some of women's rights Republicans oppose.

Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh

@EvaGonzalez Hey Eva, If you keep it up you might be able to stop Obama from being elected for a third term. ;)

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@readit @RitaHoeffner LOL - I'm not even sure if this is a serious comment or not.  I think someone is trolling so no response is necessary.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@agent.john.smith.neo @RitaHoeffner He didn't purchase the election by increasing the length of time people could draw unemployment, by increasing exponentially the number of people receiving food stamps, and by handing out Obama Phones?  I would suppose you could say he didn't purchase the election if you consider that in some swing states he received more than 100% of the vote - that actually would be considered stealing the election.  Either way, shady tactics were used.  I totally disagree that voting preferences weren't changed.  They most certainly were.  He received less of the African American vote this cycle and less than the previous young vote.  What his data mining did for him was allow the campaign to find new sets / pockets of previously untapped voters and get them registered and to the poles.  His base certainly didn't change, but YES, most definitely he HAD to secure some new voters because otherwise he would not have won - unless he was able to more than 100% of the vote in ALL states, not just the swing states.

giantsloar
giantsloar

@agent.john.smith.neo @RitaHoeffner Yeah. Increasing voter turnout is the most important thing Democrats can do. The demographics are already in our favor and getting better all the time, it's Democratic turnout that has always been lacking. If we could turn out Democratic voters at the same rate as Republican voters, the GOP would never win another national election. And they might not anyway, unless they make some big changes soon.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Independent1975 @RitaHoeffner And on second thought, it would appear that you don't think Obama himself was a reasonably intelligent casual observer.  He himself offered up tons of promises, remember?  Cut the deficit in half, close Gitmo, create how many millions of jobs?  So, he didn't realize he would need to spend the first four years cleaning up the mess of Bush?  He didn't realize that to the extent that he continued in Bush's footsteps for most all his policies?  Like Obama did in 08, Romney should have run again Bush's predecessor and called Obama - Bush 2.0.  He just might have won!  LOL 

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Independent1975 @RitaHoeffner Independent1975 Do you really think that? You honestly and truly think a Congress that has failed to pass or even offer up a budget for 3 years TRIED to work with anyone on getting anything at all done? You think a Congress and a President that pushed legislation down the throats of We The People that they didn't want was a good thing? To push it so fast that they had to pass the bill to know what was in it? To push it so hard that under the table, probably illegal deals were made in exchange for votes? I'm not buying any nonsense that either side is pumping out. I'm a conservative, not a Republican.While I would agree that the Bush administration spent like a woman on a shopping spree, the Obama administration in the last 4 years spent like a drunken sailor, which is worse than a woman shopping! And it would appear that Obama isn't concerned over the deficit OR debt for that matter even one little bit.I do look at the world in a VERY balanced way. I didn't vote for Obama in '08 although at first I was quite taken with him. Until I cut through what he was letting people 'think' he was saying and really listened to what he actually 'was' saying. I didn't like any of it.....period. I still don't. I think the man hasn't a clue, he can't speak coherently without the proverbial teleprompter. I did NOT want to vote for Romney because there is so much I disagree with and the fact that he was more moderate than conservative. I think the GOP hurts themselves when they try to run a moderate, thinking they will pull those moderate voters. Do I think Romney tried to buy the election, yes - not to the degree Obama did, simply because Romney was not in a position to give away citizenship with executive order, nor was he able to increase welfare, food stamps, or give away Obama Phones. Basically, I was stating that I was so very surprised to see that Romney first and foremost, then his campaign was not on top of things technically. It is the way of the future and perhaps Romney was too far out of touch to understand that and therefore, simply shouldn't have won. But Obama was not the answer as the alternative.Apparently, we like gridlock, because We The People voted to keep the status quo. Nothing has changed or will change. Unless Obama does his executive orders, which are very easily undone with the next president. I think immigrants aren't realizing that he is not giving them anything except for 4 years.I totally disagree that Obama could have done a better job under any different circumstances. Obama is nothing more than an extension of Bush. If you didn't like Bush, why would you like Obama? He has continued almost every single bad program and idea that Bush pushed, only magnified in some cases! You can try and insult me - your fellow American - by insinuating that I'm not of rational mind or that I have my head stuck in the sand, but that will not sway me to your way of thinking. We are all in this together, something we sometimes fail to remember when arguing our cause. We are all Americans first.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Janna And let's hope most women are NOT like you and jump to conclusions and attack someone without knowing or even trying to understand what they are saying.  No wonder this country is so divided.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Janna Janna, I'm neither lazy or uneducated.  I don't watch Fox and I'm not affiliated with the GOP.  Unlike you, I was trying to open a civil and hopefully productive conversation about women's rights and how those on the left feel the GOP stifle them.  It would appear from your condescending post, that you are the one in need of some education.  As stated in my previous post I support a woman's right to choose and I will and have fought for that right for myself and my daughter.  However, if you think this whole war on women is solely about reproductive rights, I'm shocked and outraged that you would say that 'out loud'.  You my dear, need to remember that we are ALL Americans first.  We are all on the same side, we just hold somewhat differing opinions.  I don't see as how the conservatives repress women's rights.  Some hold the idea of Pro-Life, but not all.  So wise up and don't lump us all in together.  

SAINTS
SAINTS

@hlthy1 @RitaHoeffner We the Republicans ; WE love unborn babies!! but we hate the 47% AND PEOPLE ON WELFARE , SCREW  THE POOR. We love FOETUS and  DEATH  PENATIES BUT SCREW OBAMACARE, ITS SOCIALISM!! are  we  for real???We love freedom to do bussiness and no freedom for women in their bedroom (contraceptvies)!  We love to protect unborn babies but screw your mum if she is poor and takes WELFARE(TAKERS, 47%) . We love' binders full of woman" BUT NOT FOR EQUAL PAY! THESE REPUBLICANS ARE IN DENIAL!!! THE RED STATES TAKES MUCH MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMEN T THAN BLUES STATES

JRu4Life
JRu4Life

@hlthy1 @RitaHoeffner Oh, where to begin. If "reproductive rights" mean to you that you have unlimited access to abortion - up to and even AFTER birth - and that you get free birth control (which isn't expensive anyway) then you are delusional. Do you realize what you're doing by aborting all your kids? You're not going to be able to pass on your radical beliefs since there won't be any children to pass them on to. Obama thinks that, even if a baby is lucky enough to survive a botched abortion, that you should put it on a shelf and leave it to die. He thinks that partially delivering a baby from it's mother and then jamming a pair of scissors into his neck to kill him before he's even completely outside of his mother's body is perfectly OK. There are others who advocate that you should be able to kill your children up to the age of 2 (look it up). Have you ever looked at pictures of aborted children? Do you know what the doctors have to do after they've dismembered a child and sucked it out of his mother's body? They have to lay all of the parts out on the table and re-assemble the child to make sure they got everything - otherwise the mother (well, accomplice) could get an infection and die (this happens often). Then, there's China, with their one-child policy. Will you be OK when Obama institutes a rule like that here? I could see that happening. I bet the Chinese didn't think it could ever happen to them - until it did. I also bet that the German people never thought they would be sent to ovens to be gassed - until they were. Obama is beyond evil. He is not going to improve the economy, unemployment is not going to go down, there will be more terrorist attacks on our soil and elsewhere and Americans will die, just like the men who died in Benghazi because Obama did not give them any protection and support. Economists are predicting a 20% plunge in the stock market and rising gas prices coming in the next month or so. His own Secretary of Energy has stated that the goal is for us to have high gas prices like they do in Europe. Obama is lowly chipping away at all of our civil liberties, signing hundreds and hundreds of executive orders to circumvent the legislative process called for in the Constitution (which he hates, by the way). And now you'll all respond and say that I "need to educate myself" - well, I have and I am terrified. I have always given to charity, helped many, many women in crisis pregnancies, and run a food pantry at my church. I will no longer do any of these things. Everyone is on their own and needs to fight and hang on to whatever they have - until Obama comes to take it to redistribute it to others. Good luck.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@hlthy1 @RitaHoeffner I think most liberals view this issue from an all or nothing standpoint.  While I mostly identify as a conservative on fiscal issues, I support a woman's right to choose.  BUT and it's a big but, I don't think my tax dollars, not one thin dime should pay for any one's abortion.  Due to the religious issues surrounding abortion, tax dollars should not subsidize or pay for any abortion.  I realize that contraception seemed to be a large issue of this election, and while I understand the Catholic point of view (I'm not Catholic), I personally don't have a problem with health insurance companies being ASKED to pay for contraception.  I do NOT think it should be mandatory.  If a company thinks it's important, then seek out a policy that covers it, if not, then don't...free market at it's best.  The rest of your argument is superfluous to the issue at hand.  So, NO, I don't think the state or the government should be allowed into our bedrooms or our bodies.  However, liberals want a nanny state, they want everything paid for by the government; therefore, the government feels it has the right to tell you what to do.  It's a huge caveat of getting FREE stuff.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@JohnHarvey @RitaHoeffner @Ingmar Sir, I'm no loser.  The only loser in this last election was our country.  I'll survive.  If you cannot be bothered to look up information for yourself then why bother to comment.  You are talking about something you know nothing about if you refuse to do your own research.  I could tell you the answers, but you would continue to claim I am lying.  Believe what you want....but for a FACT, he got more than 100% of the vote in some counties.  

JRu4Life
JRu4Life

@JohnHarvey @RitaHoeffner @Ingmar "In all Black precincts why would he (Romney) have gotten any votes?" Wow - racist much? Was there a law passed that if you're black you were required to vote for Obama? You see, this is the problem. Most of the black folks voted for him just because of the color of his skin - and that is one of the saddest things of all.  HE is the one who wants to keep everyone (not just blacks) in chains on the government plantation. There is information ALL OVER THE NEWS  about the many places where more than 100% of registered voters voted and/or voted for Obama - how does that work? It doesn't. Here's a link to just one story from Ohio:  http://visiontoamerica.com/12872/voter-fraud-obama-won-108-of-registered-voters-in-ohio-county/

JohnHarvey
JohnHarvey

@RitaHoeffner @JohnHarvey @Ingmar You are the one who said, "...Obama received more than 100% of the vote in some of the swing states." I am well aware of how the electoral process works. I have been an officer of the local Democratic Party for years and a frequent poll watcher.

Fine if you want to make it about counties or precincts. Name some counties or precincts where President Obama got more than 100% of the vote. Unless you give specific examples you are just making things up if you do not like the term blowing smoke. How about lying?

As for where I get my news, I do not even own a TV. No, I do not watch MSNBC. I get my news from a variety of sources including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the BBC, Time, and many others. One I do not get "news" from is Fox.

What do you mean, "If I told you the state and counties, you would not learn anything."? Voting records are public information. I expect you mean you do not know any state or counties. Is that just something you heard on Fox News?

I do not know of any counties where Romney did not get any votes. I do know in Philadelphia, PA there were 5 precincts where Romney did not get any votes. In all Black precincts why would he have gotten any votes? I am sure if you searched hard enough you could find precincts where President Obama did not get any votes. I can think of several counties in rural Pennsylvania where he probably got precious few votes, if any. Bradford County (my birthplace) has not voted for any president who was not a Republican since 1856. They were Republican before Lincoln.

Unless you give specifics, you are just talking to make yourself feel less like a loser.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@JohnHarvey @RitaHoeffner @Ingmar  I'm not sure how you cannot know these things, but there are more to counting votes than just State level.  You do understand that states are divided up into these things called counties, then precincts.  Drill down into the numbers and you'll find several places where Obama received more than 100% of the vote.  Also, if you look hard enough you'll find entire counties - many in fact, where Romney received not one single vote?  Really?  If I told you the states and counties, you wouldn't learn anything.  Please turn OFF MSNBC, step away from the TV and do some real research on your OWN.  Look things up and stop relying on someone else for your news.  If you insist on using the TV for news, then try a channel OUTSIDE of the US - they tend to be a lot more unbiased, try the BBC or Al Jazeera.  Inform yourselves people.   and NO JohnHarvey, I'm not blowing smoke - perhaps you might be?

wow_its_late
wow_its_late

@hlthy1 @RitaHoeffner A short, but incomplete answer is that "Obama Phones" don't exist because Obama has nothing to do with it. The longer answer can be found online, but essentially subsidized phone and phone service for low income Americans began with a program called Lifeline, established in 1984, and continues to this day and has partially expanded to include wireless phone service. See Snopes for more (http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp). Snopes also points out that the program isn't directly subsidized by taxpayers, but comes out of fees that telecom providers collect. 

The "Obama Phone" theme is essentially a mix of YouTube video of the poorly informed "Obamaphone Lady" and spin by Obama's detractors (who may or may not also be poorly informed).

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Bob_X @RitaHoeffner @agent.john.smith.neo Pretty simple math - when you receive more votes than there are registered voters available in the district then you receive more than 100%.  This happened in several counties in some of the swing states.  Obviously from your response you've not done your homework.  Might want to check into the numbers.  It has nothing to do with party - and until we start remembering we are ALL Americans first, we will never get to the point where we can take back our nation from the corrupt politicians that we have running this country now.

Bob_X
Bob_X

@RitaHoeffner @agent.john.smith.neo What on earth are you talking about "more than 100% of the vote in the swing states"???  The turnout was in the usual range for a Presidential election (nowhere near 100% of the eligible voters), everywhere.  He carried swing states narrowly, even in Wisconsin getting only 53%.  In DC he got 91% of the vote, understandably:  in major cities (I live in Detroit) there are numerous large areas where it would be difficult to find even a single person who would ever consider voting Republican, after a year in which Republicans have shrieked "you moochers!" at people who have done more hard work every year than Mitt and his five sons put together will ever do for their whole lives.

hlthy1
hlthy1

@giantsloar @agent.john.smith.neo @RitaHoeffner I agree. The Right is way, far out in Never Neverland and alienating anyone who doesn't hold the extreme views that they hold. I see headlines referencing "Were We Not Conservative Enough?" and I just chuckle...

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@Bob_X @RitaHoeffner @giantsloar @Independent1975 So I suppose if he at least works toward that promise, then you can go ahead and just give it to him, right?  And the deficit may be slowly crawling down but the debt sure is not!  He left Iraq too soon - what a waste of money but most importantly the lives that were lost there trying to bring Democracy.  NO, I did not support the wars - either of them, nor do I support the one Obama is desperately trying to get us into.  No, I do not support nation building, but if we are going to pour money and lives, let's at least win and accomplish *something*.  Bush tried immigration reform, the Dems were the obstructionists at that time, so not saying it's right, but turn about is fair play.  The rich already pay more than their *fair share*, and even if you raised their rate to 100%, it wouldn't even touch what is needed.  It's a move to make his base happy, period - as it accomplishes nothing.  Don't lump ME in with Bush's supporters, I think he was a terrible President, problem is Obama is Bush 2.0.  He has doubled down and continued everything Bush did.  I didn't vote for Romney, I voted against Obama.  One day hopefully We The People will wake up and go with a candidate that wants to REALLY get us out of this mess, we just didn't have that guy running this cycle.  Bush may have driven in the ditch, but Obama has gotten the car permanently STUCK in the ditch, because he left the car in BUSH gear, rather than put it in reverse.

Bob_X
Bob_X

@RitaHoeffner @giantsloar @Independent1975 The deficit is in fact slowly coming down, and has been all through Obama's term.  It was not possible to undo the huge structural deficit that Bush installed all at once; it would not have been wise to end the wars by skedaddling as fast as the troops could pack their bags, for example, although I would like to have seen him get out faster.  And it was absolutely necessary to undo the insane tax cuts for the top brackets, but the Republican congress was willing to destroy our nation's credit rather than do that (this willingness to ruin the country was treasonous, in my view).  On immigration, likewise, he could not do anything permanent if Congress was determined not to agree to anything, but he did what he could on his own.  It is the Republicans who have insisted on prolonging the Bush calamity, and Romney was proposing actually to double down on the Bush policies, and bring us to a repeat of the 2008 crash, but on steroids this time, since we have not yet recovered from the last time we let you drive us into the ditch.

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@giantsloar @RitaHoeffner @Independent1975 Really?  I mean, really?  you really think he has fulfilled most of his promises?  Ok, let's just stick to the important ones.  Cutting the deficit in half - so he is well on his way to doing this, right?  Oh that's right, he increased it exponentially!  Closing Gitmo - not so much.  Repeal tax cuts for the rich - Nope.  Cap & Trade - Nope.  Card Check - Nope. End Torture - Nope (although I'm sure you will argue, but Obama certainly has NOT stopped Rendition - same thing.) Immigration - Nope (although he did do an end around Congress and sign an Executive Order, but that was to buy the Latino vote - doesn't count because it's only good as long as he is President).  Yeah, he's kept a whole host of others, that I'd just as soon he not!  But he hasn't kept the important ones - MAINLY the debt and immigration  -  so let's get serious.  The point of the original post was that Independent1975 thought any reasonably intelligent person would know he would have to spend his first 4 years cleaning up Bush.  He has yet to clean up Bush, in my opinion Obama is Bush 2.0 - all Bush's policies were continued or enhanced under Obama.  So, apparently Obama is neither reasonable or intelligent according to the original poster - he makes promises that he just couldn't fulfill and likely still won't.

Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh

@RitaHoeffner @LiberallyLiving "In fact, it's about 46% conservative to 20% liberal"

Really? Then why did RMoney get his ass kicked so freaking bad? He got spanked like a school girl. 

RitaHoeffner
RitaHoeffner

@LiberallyLiving @RitaHoeffner I'm not making any mistake.  You seem to think that liberals outnumber conservatives, but they don't, not by a long shot. In fact, it's about 46% conservative to 20% liberal.  You don't really know my views, so please don't pretend to.  You cannot possibly know my political views from reading 3 posts aims primarily at data mining during this election.  When you say I think everyone is outraged by Obamacare, you are wrong.  I'm speaking of the majority - the usually 50-53% that have never liked it, and want it repealed.  You seem to be okay with Congress passing a bill that no one read.  That passed a bill that had only partisan support and that passed a bill solely by making backroom and under the table, likely very illegal deals in order to secure enough votes for the thing.   That is NOT the way to conduct We The People's business, for ALL American's, not just one party or the other.  And when you realize that Obama got more than 100% of the vote in some swing states, you might want to rethink that vote count point you tried to make.

LiberallyLiving
LiberallyLiving

@RitaHoeffner RitaHoeffner "We the people" - You're basic mistake is the one Republicans have been making for the last 2 years. You think that your views are representative of a majority of the population when there is no reason to believe this is true. Republicans seem convinced that everyone is outraged by Obamacare because it is a government intrusion into healthcare. However when you look at polling you realize that a majority of voters either supported Obamacare or thought the government should have done more to regulate the healthcare industry. The basic GOP narrative that the public is outraged because Obama is trying to regulate the healthcare industry is false. However, since the current Republican coalition tends to be so homogeneous many Republicans are completely blind to the fact that many Americans, often a majority, completely disagree with their ideology.Also, when you realize Democrats actually one more votes in House than Republicans and that the GOP was only able to maintain their majority due to gerrymandering and incumbency the answer is clear. Americans prefer the Democratic Party to the extreme Right Wing ideology of the current Republican Party.