Here is the clip of Republican New Jersey Governor Chris Christie on Fox & Friends this morning, slamming the suggestion (at 2:05) that he and Romney might “tour some of the damage” from Sandy and praising Obama’s handling of the disaster (at 5:25). Rich political matter.
Sure, Willard would eliminate FEMA and create the Halliburton Emergency Management Corporation. Can you imagine?
Meanwhile, I understand Rmoney was advising those caught in the path of Hurricane Sandy to make for their 2nd or 3rd homes.
@nhautamaki If they only have one home they can always ask their parents for a loan to cover repairs!
So how much is a few hundred million dollars worth?
Well, inviting the currently campaigning President to your State to "tour" all the damage and look like he is deeply affected. Christie is not stupid. He's also not running for anything at the moment. He can bring Obama to the liberal bastion of the Garden State and not affect many votes in the process. Obama gets to LOOK Presidential for a change.
Cost to tax payers, a few million dollars. People can rebuild on the coastline with their expensive beach front properties and await the next Sandy to come again and wipe them out.
More tax payer subsidized stupidity.
I assume you live in a city and a state that has never had a natural disaster. Kind of makes people think what country you live in.
@filmnoia He lives in Johnstown Pennsylvania, which is currently flooding (though you can imagine that Rusty's house is doing just fine). In case you're unaware of who you're dealing with, google "Rod Burket red state" for a good laugh.
@LiberalLies2012 I have every expectation that the tea party members who have lost their homes in the path of Sandy will have the courage of their convictions and turn down any help FEMA offers.
Thanks for your concern over your fellow Americans. You're A-grade true blood patriot.
@LiberalLies2012 LOL, Liar. You sound desperate.
I admit I am a staunch democrat and since I live abroad didn't know much about Gov. Christie except when I saw him yelling for Romney on the campaign trail this year. My son who lives in Philly had told me favorable things about Christie previously but I wasn't much impressed until now. Now, I can see how this Republican could win governor in such a democratic state. I am impressed. I believe him and I applaud his putting politics aside to help his state recover. I will be watching with much more interest and respect as he goes forward with his political career.
He threw Rmoney under the bus because he knows this election is a foregone conclusion--the same reason he didn't bother running himself. He's casting himself as an across the aisle maverick (where have we seen that before?) in preparation for a 2016 primary run against a crop that will likely include rancid teabaggers like Bachman, Jindal, et al. He's apparently been reading tea leaves, and finding in them a message that the teabagger right is going to implode on itself after they get creamed in this election. We can only hope this is the case, and there is room once again for sanity on the right.
That's my take on it too. It would have been easy for Christie to have modified his praise for Obama, FEMA and the overall general govt. response. I know he endorsed Willard and gave the keynote address at the convention, but the only thing these guys have in common is their gender. Christie will tell you something whether you want to hear it or not, whereas Willard will gladly tell you anything you want to hear.
@nhautamaki Allow me to point out that his keynote address was was a much larger endorsement for Christie than it was for Romney.
I think the Christie endorsement at that time was basically hedging his bets against a long-shot Romney win. Now that it's completely obvious to everyone but Joe Klein that Romney has no chance in this race, Christie can safely ditch that pretense and start positioning himself for the 2016 run he has always intended to wait for.
After Katrina the massive fraud cost tax payers tens of millions of dollars, that will pale in comparison to what will happen to us in New Jersey and New York; mark it down. The taxpayer is about to get whacked over the head..
@TerryClifton Speaking of massive tax fraud did we ever get back all the money Haliburton overcharged to government for in Iraq?
@TerryClifton Those people in New York and New Jersey are tax payers too and they are either Americans or here as our guests. So we will take care of them now and worry about the fraud later. Not to mention the fact that the longer they are off line in these states the MORE money it costs all of us.
@TerryClifton I'm sure your fellow americans will remember your sensitivity and compassion too, as they look to the government to do what governments are created to do.And you seem to assume that FEMA under Obama will operate with the same feckless irresponsibility as it did under Bush and Brownie. Your reasons for assuming that, please?
So just to take this whole thing to the next obvious point. Lets just say FEMA is gone and the states are on their own. Each state has to have a mini FEMA. A few years go by and a Republican Gov. cuts funding over and over for an agency that's not doing anything. Then a Katrina or a Sandy or a nameless earthquake, tsunami etc hit. What happens then? The Republicans tell us that the poor should be helped by churches and charities. Is the local pastor supposed to step up and run emergy services? Maybe they take bake sales to a new level...
How did we survive all those years before FEMA? I think it was started in the Carter years. I can't say as I mind so sort of a central emergency coordination center, but FEMA has gone way past that in size, cost, and waste. It was sad to see all the FEMA-purchased trailers (mobile homes) not sitting in fields just wasting away down here in Florida. I'm sure it happened elsewhere too.
@FloridaJoe55 To use your argument should we also go back to the days of the individual state militias instead of the National Army, get rid of the Interstate Highway system and shut down all air traffic control? These are all things that cost lots of money and we did without in the past.
In the years before FEMA, disasters like Sandy would be expected to claim thousands of lives and leave local economies in ruins for years. If mere survival of the human race is your yardstick, then yes, FEMA makes little difference--humanity is not in danger of extinction due to hurricanes or earthquakes regardless of whether there is a FEMA. But some people strive for more than the mere continued existence of the human race.
@FloridaJoe55 So there is no difference to the leadership of FEMA, between Bush and Obama?
"To top it all off, George W. Bush’s laughable FEMA director, “Heck of a job, Brownie” Michael Brown, is criticizing Obama for reacting too quickly to Sandy. Are Democrats paying Brown to remind voters of the contrast between Obama’s quiet competence and Bush’s disastrous handling of Katrina?"
We know what Romney and the GOP budget he approves would do. I think Christie is very glad that Mitt isn't running things today.
"The agency was put back in working order by President Obama, but ideology still blinds Republicans to its value. Many don’t like the idea of free aid for poor people, or they think people should pay for their bad decisions, which this week includes living on the East Coast.
Over the last two years, Congressional Republicans have forced a 43 percent reduction in the primary FEMA grants that pay for disaster preparedness. Representatives Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and other House Republicans have repeatedly tried to refuse FEMA’s budget requests when disasters are more expensive than predicted, or have demanded that other valuable programs be cut to pay for them. The Ryan budget, which Mr. Romney praised as “an excellent piece of work,” would result in severe cutbacks to the agency, as would the Republican-instigated sequester, which would cut disaster relief by 8.2 percent on top of earlier reductions."
Libs are always complaining about no specifics in Romney's budget/tax plan. And, boy do they jump on him if he mentions cutting anything including Big Bird. So what exactly does Obama and the liberal want to cut to keep from adding another $5Trillion onto the debt, bringing it up to $21Trillion, if Obama is re-elected?
At $21Trillion and having interest rates go up just a point or two due to the coming inflation (because they printed so much money to make the economy look even as good as it does) there won't be any money left for any of the left's hand-out programs and entitlements. Just look at Greece.
Last I checked the government was not planning on going into default. I conclude therefore that this Republical debt talk is just a canard.
Cut the defense budget in half--300-400 billion a year right there. Worried about reduced foreign influence? Triple the State budget and you'll have greater global security, leadership, and influence, at a tiny fraction of the cost.
Allow the Bush tax cuts to expire; there's several billion a year even right now in a depressed economy.
Those 2 fixes alone would pay for 20 Hurricane Sandys. But we only get 1 Hurricane Sandy level event per year, on average.
So we can use the savings to jumpstart the economy. Fix the infrastructure, health care, and basic education systems (higher education is good though it could be cheaper and more accessible to what genuine talent exists on the lower rungs of society). Make America into THE place to live, THE place to find the best work force, THE place to find customers, and THE place to innovate and start businesses. Fixing the economy (and the tax code, see above) increases revenue massively, which, if reinvested, creates a positive feedback loop that carries American prosperity through the 21st century.
WEll there are a couple of things which might help, like stop paying for endless wars and actually collect a few taxes. Collecting taxes is one of the things that Greece hasn't done so well either.
@FloridaJoe55 So Florida, you support Romney's soup can approach? The 'let them eat Campbell's' response to natural disasters, because it would be just too expensive to lend a hand when we have so many battleships to build?
When Florida gets hit with disaster and asks for help, do you folks call it a 'hand-out program' and leftie 'entitlement'? Show some self-awareness, please!
@Ivy_B Oh Oh facts......Republican Kryptonite
@Ivy_B Further I dare anyone on the right to go after Christie on this. Dare them.
@outsider2011 Love him, hate him or indifferent about him Gov Christie can handle himself. Cut his mic if you want to.
@Ivy_B Dead on Ivy. Christie is not stupid and all he is doing here is giving credit where credit is due. Christie has had his own run in with this type of thing from the snow storm a few years ago. He still has the space to hit Obama on some other less important issue. This is smart politics in real time not like that made up campaign operative style stuff Alex wrote down thread where up is down and right is left. Where a reporter gets the idea it is job to clean up a candidate's slop is beyond me. But that's Michael and Alex.
Wow, kudos to Christie for telling Fox that he doesn't "give a d@mn" to play their politicking game. That was using no uncertain terms. Best wishes to the people hit by Sandy -- you've got a bunch of empathy from us Floridians.
I was watching the Christie news conference while waiting for Sandy to arrive here, and was amazed at the praise and confidence that he was heaping on the current administration...Obama included. I commented at the time (to my wife) that Mitty must be royally pee'd off at Christy for what could only be described as glowing compliments. BTW, does anyone remember that the tea-baggers threatened to de-fund FEMA after Irene '11? I think that Christie remembers very clearly.
And so begins Christy's 2016 Presidential campaign. He is betting on an Obama win and a Republican move back to reason.
That seems to be evident. However, he will have to pay somewhere along the way for his apostasy. Maybe an appearance on Limbaugh where he can apologize and say that FEMA and the Prez should have just left NJ alone. After all, who needs a tourist industry.
@filmnoia I don't think so. Him being a giant bully cures all ills. The base loves to be abused.
Then claim that it was wrong; it worked at the state level, but not the federal.. or something like that
@filmnoia ...of course, I never thought they would nominate the inspiration for Obamacare either.
@filmnoia if that happened, it might force the dems to toughen up and govern better too.
If the nut jobs left the GOP, there would be two viable options again.
Not just one crazy, and one not. I'd be a dem supporter anyway, but I think both products would improve
Even when he tells them that the whole concept of our judicial system being "infected" by Sharia law is "just nutty." I agree with Mantis, the only way he ever gets the GOP nod is if the current freaks in the GOP form a third party. One can only hope. That's a sure way to marginalize the whack jobs.
@TyPollard It would really be a pleasant turn of events if the GOP were to move away from the tea party, but that seems to be where the money's head is.
@TyPollard Christy is half correct. While Obama is likely to win, the only way the Republicans move back to reason is if the evangelical/Neo con wing of the party splits off to form what I would like to call the "Crusader Party".
Wait, what is that I see swirling around the drain? Could it be? Yes,yes it is! It's Willard, followed closely by his magical prevarication machine.