What Happened at the First Presidential Debate

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Presidential candidates Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama during their first debate at the University of Denver on Oct. 3, 2012.

–8 minutes. The first 2012 presidential debate is minutes away, so the threats have begun. The head of the debate commission, Frank Fahrenkopf, tells audience members that if they violate the no-clapping, no-applause rules, “a button will be pushed and you’ll be swimming with the fishes.” Then the moderator, Jim Lehrer, comes out and warns that he might stop the debate if anyone speaks. “Start having silent thoughts,” he says. It’s a tense moment that just got more tense.

0 minutes. Lehrer welcomes the candidates — Romney in a red tie, Obama in blue — who walk to the middle of the stage to shake hands and exchange smiles. After another warning for the audience, Lehrer asks a broad question about the differences in the candidates’ jobs plans. Obama answers by thanking his wife for 20 years of marriage. “I just want to wish, Sweetie, you a happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people,” he says. The crowd laughs. The beginnings of applause. No one follows the rules. Some swim with the fishes as Obama finishes a restatement of his stump speech.

6 minutes. Romney starts by trying to show that he has a heart. He doesn’t just talk about jobs. He talks about the woman he met in Dayton, Ohio, etc. Then he lists his five-point plan, which would be more compelling if he had a PowerPoint slideshow. He ends by saying Obama believes in “trickle-down government,” nifty wordplay on trickle-down economics, or the idea that what is good for the wealthy is good for all. It doesn’t exactly make sense. But it’s nifty.

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8 minutes. “Mr. President, please respond directly to what the governor just said about trickle-down,” says Lehrer. Obama doesn’t. Instead he talks about schools and energy and jobs getting shipped overseas. He says Romney’s economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut, a $1 trillion extension of the high-end Bush tax cuts and $2 trillion in additional military spending. “How we pay for that,” he says, “is one of the central questions of this campaign.” It’s a nifty line, but it’s also misleading. Romney has said his $5 trillion in tax cuts would be revenue-neutral, offset by tax increases that come from closing loopholes in the tax code.

10 minutes. Lehrer asks Romney if he has a question he would like to ask Obama. Romney doesn’t. Instead he says, “I don’t have a $5 trillion tax cut,” and “I’m not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people.” Then he returns to his PowerPoint presentation without the PowerPoint. Another numbered list: 1. Education. 2. Taxation. 3. Energy. 4. More about taxation. The PowerPoint is a bit scrambled.

14 minutes. Lehrer is staying out of this. Obama jumps in to point out that he has cut taxes on the middle class. Then he says, accurately, that Romney’s plan doesn’t really add up in traditional economic analysis. You can’t cut all income taxes by 20%, stay revenue-neutral and preserve the progressivity of the tax code, since there are not enough loopholes to eliminate. “Now, that’s not my analysis,” Obama says. “That’s the analysis of economists who have looked at this.”

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16 minutes. “Virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate,” Romney shoots back. He’s got memorized lines for moments like this: “Look, I’ve got five boys. I’m used to people saying something that’s not always true.” Then Romney seems to suggest that you can’t trust economists. “Now you cite a study. There are six other studies that looked at the study you describe and say it’s completely wrong,” he says. That’s not exactly true. Some of the studies Romney cites are blog posts. And the big difference is that the Romney studies use nontraditional accounting. They assume that tax cuts will unleash new economic growth. The official congressional number crunchers don’t use this accounting, since it is speculative and involves projections that have not been accurate in the past.

18 minutes. It has become clear that the candidates have different body language. Romney is more animated, more dominating, more excited. Obama is in professor mode, with less eye contact, as if he hasn’t had his Honest Tea. There are strategic reasons for this. Obama is winning in the polls. He doesn’t need to dominate. But when he delivers lines like, “It’s math. It’s arithmetic,” they don’t exactly shake the room.

21 minutes. Lehrer had hoped to divide the debate into 15-minute segments. But the jobs section, which is mostly about taxes, is well over time. “It’s fun, isn’t it?” says Romney. And the thing is, Romney looks like he is having fun.

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23 minutes. The debate continues apace. Tax rates. Five trillion dollars. Obama accuses Romney of using the same sales pitch that George W. Bush did in 2001 and 2003. “Bill Clinton tried the approach that I’m talking about,” he says. “We created 23 million new jobs.” In two sentences, he takes credit for Clinton.

26 minutes. Finally a new topic, the deficit, which is not really different from the old topic. This allows Romney to go back to his invisible PowerPoint with another list. One of his targeted cuts is the subsidy for PBS, which is awkward because Lehrer is a PBS guy. Romney knows this. “I love Big Bird,” Romney says. Then, speaking to Lehrer: “I actually like you too … But I’m not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for.”

31 minutes. “Governor,” asks Lehrer, about to head into the bipartisan deficit-reduction plan, “what about Simpson-Bowles? Do you support Simpson-Bowles?” Romney doesn’t answer. “Simpson-Bowles? The President should have grabbed that,” he says. “I have my own plan.”

32 minutes. “I did,” protests Obama. He didn’t really. He proposed a different deficit-reduction plan after not embracing Simpson-Bowles. But the debate rolls on. Soon Obama is hitting some of his points, talking about a balanced approach, the oil industry that gets what he calls “$4 trillion in corporate welfare” and tax breaks for corporate jets.

37 minutes. Romney has a zinger ready for this one. “First of all, the Department of Energy has said the tax break for oil companies is $2.8 billion a year,” he says. Obama seems to concede the point, saying, “It’s time to end it.” Then Romney strikes. “And in one year, you provided $90 billion in tax breaks to the green-energy world,” he says. “Now, I like green energy as well, but that’s about 50 years’ worth of what oil and gas receives.” Romney’s numbers are wrong. The Recovery Act funded green energy, including clean coal, over several years. But he scores the point.

39 minutes. Time to talk entitlements. Obama tries to personalize it by talking about his late grandmother. But he’s mostly defensive. He says he wants to lower health care costs to help Medicare and that the nation doesn’t need structural changes to Social Security.

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42 minutes. In contrast to Obama, Romney hits his talking points hard and says he is proposing no changes to entitlements for those 60 or older. “You don’t need to listen any further,” he says to seniors. “But for younger people, we need to talk about what changes are going to be occurring.” Then Romney starts in accusing Obama of cutting $716 billion from Medicare. “I can’t understand how you can cut Medicare,” he says. This is strange, because Obama’s cuts were to programs widely seen as wasteful. In fact, Romney’s running mate, Paul Ryan, supported the cuts. Either the running mates don’t talk to each other, or Romney is feigning confusion to confuse voters.

47 minutes. After more back and forth about all the ways Obamacare strengthened coverage for seniors — AARP supported Obama’s changes, after all — the candidates get philosophical and substantive. The debate over Medicare is a debate over the best way to lower costs and continue to provide service. Obama thinks private insurance is inefficient because of higher administrative costs and the need for profit. Romney thinks government-run Medicare is ineffective because markets create efficiency. It’s about as far from a 30-second ad as you can get.

51 minutes. This philosophical difference — which is key to the whole election — continues into a discussion on regulation. Romney takes a moderate route. “Regulation is essential,” he says. Then he talks in some detail of where Obama went too far. Obama is on defense, which is odd on an issue like this. But that’s how this debate is shaping up. There’s a lot of talk about what Dodd-Frank does or doesn’t do. Dodd-Frank is the name of a financial-reform bill that Congress passed in 2010, but no one stops to explain that. They might as well be saying Simpson-Bowles.

56 minutes. Back to health care. “It’s two minutes each,” Lehrer says. No one believes him. Romney says Obamacare is bad because health care costs too much, even though health care costs were rising before Obama took office. But Romney is on a roll. “It’s expensive. Expensive things hurt families,” says the man with the $12 million La Jolla, Calif., mansion.

60 minutes. Obama tries to defend his health care law, but just when he’s about to get to the part where he points out that Romney passed a nearly identical law in Massachusetts, Lehrer tells him his time is up. “I had five seconds before you interrupted me,” Obama complains. Lehrer relents.

65 minutes. A debate follows about whether insurance companies should be allowed to set prices on the basis of customers’ health, which Obamacare will outlaw in 2014. “Pre-existing conditions are covered in my plan,” Romney says. Obama says Romney’s plan is vague and seems to allow sick people to keep their coverage only when they change jobs, which is already the law. “Is the reason that Governor Romney is keeping all these plans secret because they’re too good?” All of Obama’s quips are questions.

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67 minutes. There’s a loud noise off-camera, like a pundit falling off a stool. Both candidates look around to see what it was. America may never know.

73 minutes. “Do you believe there’s a fundamental difference between the two of you as to how you view the mission of the federal government?” Lehrer asks. There is. It’s the reason the U.S. has two political parties. It’s also what Obama and Romney have been debating for the preceding 72 minutes. Obama says he would create freedom and opportunity like Abraham Lincoln. Romney says he would create freedom and opportunity like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

80 minutes. Only 10 minutes left. Time for the lightning round of neglected issues. Education: Romney praises Obama Cabinet member Arne Duncan. Obama criticizes Romney running mate Ryan, whose proposed spending cuts Obama says could mean “cutting the education budget by up to 20%.” This is technically possible but misleading: Ryan’s budget doesn’t specify education cuts, just generic discretionary dollars. And only 10% of the overall education budget is federally funded. Romney deploys another prepackaged zinger: “Mr. President, you’re entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.”

84 minutes. Lehrer is distressed that they’re taking too much time. “We’ve lost a pod,” he says, “so we only have three minutes left in the debate before we go to your closing statements.” No one knows what he’s talking about, but we’re pretty sure it doesn’t have to do with whales. Romney says he’d break partisan gridlock in Washington by working “on a collaborative basis,” which Obama says he’s tried.

88 minutes. Closing statements. Everybody thanks everybody for being there. Obama says he’ll give Americans a fair shot but mostly avoids looking directly at the camera, as if he is tired or shy. “Four years ago, we were going through a major crisis, and yet my faith and confidence in the American future is undiminished,” he says. Romney fires up the PowerPoint: unemployment, health care and the military will suffer under an Obama second term, he says. He looks directly at the camera, appearing bigger and more confident.

92 minutes. Romney and Obama meet at midstage for a handshake and a backslap. The families come out. The cable spin begins. And the first presidential debate of 2012 is over.

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Danny Liu
Danny Liu

 http://www.thedebate.org/thede...  .  The real reason they don't want to abandon Afghanistan is, because of the Exxon Mobile's pipeline pumping oil from Afghanistan. George Bush Jr. brags he went to Iraq for the oil, to show off to his affluent friends. So instead of half the n

ational deficit, we have it double, they want to build permanent bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, so big oil, and the Republican's can get rich. So why do they want to make Afghanistan a permanent duty station so they can protect the interest's of big oil and the pipeline, before they started drilling and pumping oil out of Afghanistan, the country was considered the largest untapped oil resource in the world. They don't talk much about the pipeline now because the Billionaire's and corporations have silence everyone. I don't vote and support neither party. George Bush Jr and the Republican party wanted to control the oil infrastructure of Iraq, and Afghanistan to enrich themselves, Billions traded for the corporations, while America accumulated Trillions in national debt, not such a good trade off, but it was for 1% of the population. The people of Afghanistan live simple lives as farmers and ranchers, living off of mountain goats, and sheep's, and simple crops, too stupid to realize what they have an abundant source of natural resources that they do not benefit from, while Hamid Karzai hordes over 100 Billion in secret accounts for himself. The people of Afghanistan use horses and donkeys, and pick up trucks, as their main weapons, while military contractor's keep building new weapon system's for themselves and get richer, America goes down hill in debt. China owns 11% of the national debt, and Japan owns 10% and they are over 200% over GDP in national debt. So who owns most of the national debt Private Security Firms profiting off the national debt of the U.S.  Corporate raiders interested in maximizing profit margins and corporate gains overseas, while the U.S. economy suffers at the expense of the people.

SlaveDaysAreOver
SlaveDaysAreOver

You left out the part where Romney said that Obama could have hired 2

million teachers with the money Obama chose instead to spend on

Solendra.  I thought that was a good point.  

SlaveDaysAreOver
SlaveDaysAreOver

You left out the part where Romney said that Obama could have hired 2 million teachers with the money Obama chose instead to spend on Solendra.  I thought that was a good point. 

Tish White
Tish White

I want to read all of these remarks and see what you think, but no one so far has mentioned how strangly the President was behaving.  Is he ill or tired or relaxing on something?

designatedhitter
designatedhitter

Brianmc3113 I call bull on you calling bull. Al Gore, GW Bush and even John (I served in Vietnam ) Kerry all released their college transcripts. And I might add that each proved to be mediocre as a student. For some reason Obama has decided there is something in his transcripts he'd rather not share at all. And many believe it's not grades that he is hiding.  And Romney did release two years of returns, along with a letter from his accountants declaring that he paid at least 13% in every other of the last ten years.   

karlitoswayz
karlitoswayz

i think that Romney "winning" the debate is actually a blessing in disguise because it puts Ryan in a really akward position for his debate because he wont be able to lie and flip flop like Romney did because Biden is a pitbull and wont let him, he has to now come up with a strategy to handle Biden and it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with because i think Biden is going to be on his ass all night

leftofcenter37
leftofcenter37

If only the debate answers were held to the same integrity and honesty as sports.  There we have umpires to jump in and judge the legality of an action.  If the american people expect that of  just a ballgame why not of politicians?  

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

Romney:

 

- Valedictorian at BYU

- Baker’s scholar (top 5% of business students) at Harvard

- Master’s degrees in business AND law

- Enormously successful in private business and now worth

between $200 and $250 million (compare this to Obama and many of Obama’s

closest advisers who have never had to turn a profit or go hungry, and,

no, don’t whine about workers Romney let go when taking over a company

while at Bain Capital because you’d be forgetting to look at: A) the

workers’ jobs Romney saved by saving a dying company and B) the jobs he

created after those struggling companies were turned around and started

to grow again)

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

We must stand together and elect Romney.  He is the only one who can heal the nation.

He is the only candidate who cares about those who REALLY matter -- REAL Americans.

VOTE FOR ROMNEY.

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

Lots of things to admire in Romney:

Looks, talks and acts “Presidential”

Understands commitment (never divorced, in a loving 43 year marriage)

Understands morality (never had an affair)

Understands family (5 kids, all successful adults)

Willing to let all of America see his birth certificate without a fight

Released his most recent filed tax records (2010) proving he’s not a

tax cheat (the IRS has no problem with his filed taxes), with more tax records (2011) promised to be released before the election.

Trust me.  I am a lawyer.  I have seen his actual tax returns.

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

 More reasons to vote for Romney:

Looks, talks and acts “Presidential”

Understands commitment (never divorced, in a loving 43 year marriage)

Understands morality (never had an affair)

Understands family (5 kids, all successful adults)

Willing to let all of America see his birth certificate without a fight

Released his most recent filed tax records (2010) proving he’s not a tax cheat (the IRS has no problem with his filed taxes), with more tax records (2011) promised to be released before the election

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012...

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

 More Reasons To Vote For Romney:

 

“Service over self”. Romney immediately endorsed McCain

after ‘Super Tuesday’ in 2008 when it became obvious McCain was the

clear front-runner; America is more important to him than his ego

Volunteer service to community as a church head pastor for 13 years all with ZERO pay (that’s right, none)

Would give ALL his Presidential salary ($1.6 million total)

back to the American taxpayers if elected (yes, he’s on record as

committing to this)

Voluntarily turned down enrolling in Medicare when he turned 65 on

March 12, 2012 (in other words, he’s NOT sucking up our precious tax

dollars

because he knows he can, and therefore should, take care of himself)

He also chose to NOT receive any Social Security payments upon turning 65 because, again, he knows he can take care of himself and therefore should not rely on our tax dollars to help fund his daily living

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012...

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

I am making an observation here about the rumbling on the Right. I used to belong to the NRA, however, when it became an anti-Obama GONG troupe, I cancelled my membership. But they still send me letters, and the magazine.

Anyway, I share this because the NRA usually reveals, albeit unintentionally, the pulse of the Republican party. Throughout the primaries, it was obvious they were hysterical. They did not want Romney to win. They did not come out and say it directly, but the letters they sent were increasingly wild as they warned us obliquely about the coming apocalypse if "True Conservatives" were not selected to run for office.

What I find most interesting is that, usually, once the NRA believes, at least from my observation, that they have a true Conservative on top of the ticket, they are more relaxed and not as hysterical in their communication.

However, since Romney became the flag bearer, to me at least, there has been no abatement in the hysteria. It is apparent they do not trust Romney. They are just as hysterical as they were during the conventions, as they are now. It is quite unusual.

I think this shows how uncomfortable the Conservative base feels about Romney. They just do not trust him.  I got a letter from them yesterday, and the hysteria is still the same. The message appears to be just as hysterical.

They do not want Romney. Romney had better placate his base, otherwise, he has NO chance of winning. One debate "win" by Romney in a rendition full of BLATANT  prevarications on his policies, does not help his case with the base. I hope Romney loses in a landslide.

VOTE Obama/Biden 2012

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

OH MY GOD!!!  OH MY GOD!!!!   OH MY GOD!!!!

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE

IS THAT HE DOES NOT USE AN  UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE BEWARE. 

I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

Edit

Reply

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012...

 

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

Wow, looks like there was an attack of dopplegangers last night.

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

OH MY GOD!!!  OH MY GOD!!!!   OH MY GOD!!!!

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE DOES NOT USE AN  UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE BEWARE. 

I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY

ACT ALSO USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

OH MY GOD!!!  OH MY GOD!!!!   OH MY GOD!!!!

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE DOES NOT USE AN  UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE BEWARE. 

I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY

ACT ALSO USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

OH MY GOD!!!  OH MY GOD!!!!   OH MY GOD!!!!

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE DOES NOT USE AN  UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER. 

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE BEWARE.  I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER. 

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS A ROMNEY SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

BEWARE.  I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO

USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER. 

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS A ROMNEY SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

BEWARE.  I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO

USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks 

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER. 

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS A ROMNEY SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

BEWARE.  I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO

USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks 

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS

THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER. 

ALSO, THIS MANIAC IS A ROMNEY SUPPORTER, AND I AM NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

BEWARE.  I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THE PERSON DOING THIS DASTARDLY ACT ALSO

USES THE HANDLE OF "MILDRED GILLARS" AND MANY OTHERS.

PS: I made a report already, and nothing has been done yet. Do you know who I should report to, here on Swampland? Thanks

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Where are the moderators on this site? Other than swallow comments, they seem to be unavailable. Some maniac is using my handle and picture to post pro Romney drivel. This individual has been identified as the same lunatic that also uses the handle of 'Midred Gillars" and many other aliases.  However, I still cannot find a moderator here to make a formal complaint to. This is an outrage.

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

"Swallow" comments?

Do you have an oral obsession?  I think there is a blog for people like you...

And besides, you already said earlier that you had made a complaint. So...were you lying again?

You're not very stable are you.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Lying again>?? Mildred Gillars aka the IMPOSTOR. I suggest you take your stupidity elsewhere. I have been using this forum for a while and I am sure the regulars can scroll back and look at my handle, my style and recognize that you might be trying hard to be me, but you are not, and can never be me.

You are pathetic. I mean, really.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE (His other Name here is Mildred Gillars) HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.  PLEASE  BEWARE.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.  PLEASE

BEWARE.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

THERE IS AN IMPOSTOR USING MY HANDLE AND PICTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE HAS AN UNDERSCORE BETWEEN BENEVOLENT AND LAWYER.  PLEASE

BEWARE.

superlogi
superlogi

Why is it, we need twits like you to interpret what happened last night?  Just thought I'd ask.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

He's not interpreting anything - it's a minute by minute breakdown.

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

Note to MrOblivious, who said " Disprove one lie you have refuted them all "

When you "disprove" a lie, you establish that it is, in fact the truth.  Pay attention to the way you use words.

MrObvious
MrObvious

besch, paulejb wrote 'disprove one lie you have refuted them all'. I pointed out how illogical that statement was.

Focus

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

besch, repeating someone else's errors does not validate your spurious claim to be logical.

It merely shows that even a parrot, like you, cannot overcome low breeding.

AWomanofFaith
AWomanofFaith

I will pray for you to Paul

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

You pray to Paul?  You mean St. Paul? That psychotic? 

Or did you mean "you too"?

AWomanofFaith
AWomanofFaith

No!  I will pray for you Mr.  Attorney!  Have a good night and may God continue to bless you in which I know he will!

AWomanofFaith
AWomanofFaith

Come to think of it, was Obama an attorney?  If not he should have been one!

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

 As much as a constitutional lawyer can be called an attorney, yes.

AWomanofFaith
AWomanofFaith

No thanks!  Not in to that

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

 Too bad.  Us lawyers are great same sex partners.

AWomanofFaith
AWomanofFaith

Yes, I realize that!  Yep,  they like to screw people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

Yeshuratnam
Yeshuratnam

Team Obama’s aggressive

propaganda gave a bad picture of Romney -- that he is politically immature,

that he has poor knowledge of American economy and that he is a bumbler in

foreign policy. One liberal media financed by Islamists went to the extent of

saying that his mental ability is weak.  But viewers who are seeing Romney

on the stage for the first time were surprised to see a

dynamic leader, a leader of substance, of ideas and ideals

and with sound mental alertness By  indulging  in personal

attacks and character assassination, Team Obama and liberal media

 brainwashed American people by giving  a wrong image of Romney. So

it was a real surprise for millions of Americans to see a Romney with a vast

knowledge of international affairs firm grip on economic issues.  His

practical ideas to save America from political turmoil that we see today in the

Middle East due to the inept handling of foreign policy by Obama and his

formula to redeem the country from deep recession and mammoth unemployment,

reminded the viewers that he is another Reagan who can pull the country out of

the current economic chaos  and restore the prestige of America in world

affairs.

 

boonteetan
boonteetan

Poor Obama, the famed orator seemed to have lost his words in the first debate, utterly different from his flamboyant self 4 years ago.  Bad omen.  (vzc1943)

BenevoIent  Lawyer
BenevoIent Lawyer

 The Saudis have a saying: "Beware the cunning wrath of a patient man."