Romney’s 47% Video: Five Charts to Fact-Check the Remarks

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When Mitt Romney told a group of wealthy donors that 47% of Americans pay no income taxes, he was (mostly) telling the truth. But everything else about his statement grossly misrepresents the reality of that figure. Here are five charts to clip’n’save for future reference.

Romney’s claim: 47% of people “pay no income tax.”

Reality: 47% of U.S. households pay no federal income taxes. Many pay state and local taxes, as well as payroll and other federal taxes.

Romney’s claim: The 47% “are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.”

Reality: Few of these people probably think of themselves as entitled takers because they paid taxes in the past (seniors), will pay taxes in the future (students), or already pay payroll taxes on subsistance-level income.

Those whose liability is wiped out by tax credits and deductions are mostly the elderly and the working poor.

Romney’s claim: These 47% will “they will vote for this president no matter what.”

Reality: Obama edges Romney among low-income voters, but certainly not by 100%. In addition, people who pay no federal income tax are heavily concentrated in red states.

Huge thanks to the CBPP, the Tax Policy Center and the Tax Foundation for the awesome charts. Go visit their websites.

 

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JohnParish
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I think for independents like myself, the election all boils down to this:

 "who is the REAL MITT ROMNEY"

Is he Mitt Romney #1 who says in public :

"My campaign is about the 100 percent of America,The president cares about the people of America. I care about the

people of America. But he doesn't know what it takes to help the people

of America, and I do. I'll get them working again, I don't want an America where we think the future of our nation is

going to be guided by a government who, that redistributes the income of

the people. I want more incomes for everybody. I want to lift people

out of poverty, And right now, the people who are poor in this country who need help

getting out of poverty, the middle class, who need help because their

incomes have gone down every year for the last four years," he said.

OR Is he Mitt Romney #2 who says candidly in an unguarded off-the-cuff moment:

"All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon

government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the

government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they

are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. But

that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And

they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people

who pay no income tax. 47 percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes

doesn’t connect… my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never

convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for

their lives.

One of the two Mitt Romney's is lying and the other one is telling the truth.

Voters like me will need to decide WHICH MITT ROMNEY they believe is the REAL MITT ROMNEY.

 

 

We_Hold_These_Truths
We_Hold_These_Truths

The Mislead Majority (or Why Everyone Misses the Issue)

Now that the primitive, reactionary, lizard-brain response to the latest Romney ‘place foot in mouth’ self-inflicted disclosure of his thought processes has revealed yet again that neither party knows what they are talking about, the media is possibly more clueless (as impossible as that would be given the significant nonexistence of intelligence in party die-hards), and the public is complacent and uninvolved in even attempting to think about the salient issue at the core of Romney’s “47%” faux pas. So yet again we have the bulk of the public attention span misdirected to nonsense, nuance, and nothing of import. All this off-point commotion directed at an important issue that is not being discussed meaningfully, because not one person has understood the right question or the enlightening answer that goes to the heart of Romney’s sentiment.

Now I have come to expect to be disappointed by Congress and politicians of any other stripe, and I have become immune to the debilitating insight shown by news entities, and I am confident in the public’s attention to the magician’s misdirecting movements while missing his picking of their pockets. So in an anti-Borgian attempt to fight for a futile endeavor to provide a view that has not surfaced from this gaff or from many preceding ‘sound-bites’ from all sides and in every conceivable context where America’s tax system and policies are supposedly discussed. The words you hear in these discussions would lead the casual observer to actually believe that someone is talking intelligently about taxes despite the fact that they are so far away from intelligent that we are dealing with the knowledge level found amongst rocks.

In opposition to that trend, I am presenting a puzzle for you to solve. It’s not a difficult problem, and it’s not going to require any complex knowledge or in fact any information that anyone who went through an American high-school would not have had explained to them.

Puzzle: Imagine two Americans, one “L” who earns $25,000 per year and the other “M” who earns $1,000,000 per year. Both, oddly enough, have equivalent deductions. As a result of these deductions, “L” owes $0 in taxes by the federal tax table. Now consider “M”, after working about 6.5 days “M” will have earned the same $25,000 as “L” did for the entire year. How much tax does “M” owe the IRS for that same $25,000?

Once you have figured out the answer you are ready to answer the puzzle. The puzzle is: Who was treated unfairly?

Do not read any further unless you have your answer, when you’re ready did you arrive at: Neither?

They were treated identically. The American tax system does not tax anyone at a higher or lower rate given comparable applicable tax situations. For the first $25,000 earned each party owes exactly the same tax liability. Each was given the same government “hand-outs” and “entitlements”. Why then are both Republican and Democratic leaders unable to understand this? If they are going to take a position on an issue, you would think that they would at least try to be informed about the issue.

ahandout
ahandout

Time magazine and the liberal media embarrass themselves.  The zeal to carry Obama's water is akin to teenage girls fawning over Justin Bieber.  Just don't wet yourselves.

Alan MacDonald
Alan MacDonald

 

Romney has actually done us a big favor in laying the foundation

for Obama to have to finally clarify his position on the Occupy

movement's issue of vast economic inequality.You see, by

identifying 47% of Americans as 'poor' and 'working class' who are

too poor to pay income tax, and identifying this proximate half of

Americans as likely voters for Obama, Romney has clearly thrown the

gauntlet down to Obama --- who has so far managed to run his entire

presidential campaign without ever talking about the 'poor' or the

'working class'.Thus Romney has clarified that approximately

half of all Americans are 'poor' and 'working class', who are paid so

little that they are poor enough not to pay income tax.Now

the ball in clearly in Obama's court to actually say something about

the 'poor' and 'working-class (poor)', instead of Obama merely

continuing to talk only about the other approximate half of

Americans, who, as he endlessly talks about are the shrinking

'middle-class'.Romney has rightly noted that the 'poor' and

poor 'working-class' is now half of America --- and their increase to

half of Americans is because many formerly in the 'middle-class' have

moved down to the 'poor' and 'working-class' poor, who don't earn

enough to pay income taxes.So where does this Romney truth

telling lead Obama?Well, it clearly leads to Obama having to

understand, and hopefully finally say something about, the reality of

the structure of the American people who he wants to lead again as

president.It clearly means that Obama should, and should be

forced to, say SOMETHING about half of Americans --- in fact the half

that Romney cedes to Obama ---- that they are actually a 'poor class'

and a 'working-class' who are too POOR to pay income taxes.Let's

summarize what Obama could and should be forced to say:About

HALF of Americans are POOR and WORKING-CLASS who are also too POOR to

pay income tax --- and who Obama says nothing about and is apparently

so embarrassed about that he never mentions them and never claims

them as supporters.About HALF of Americans are so-called

'middle-class' [they work, but Obama never ever calls them that awful

word 'working-class'], and a continuing stream, flow, gusher of these

'middle-class' workers are falling down into the awful and

unmentioned 'poor' and 'working-class' too poor to pay tax, and too

embarrassing for Obama to ever mention.And as we now know,

thanks to the "Occupy" movement (which Obama also never

mentions), the remaining 1% of Americans outside of the 'poor',

'working-class' poor, and shrinking 'middle-class', are the rich

pricks and corporations who buy the politicians to insure that this

corrupt and unsustainable system of virtual, but also never

mentioned,  EMPIRE continues smoothly on this trajectory curve

downward, which Obama only talks about in terms of his 'bending the

curve' --- but apparently not THIS curve toward universal poverty for

the nearly 99% of Americans who are already 'poor', 'working-class'

poor, or among the increasingly fearful 'middle-class' who see their

fellow 'middle-classers' moving into poverty.WOW!What

an opportunity Romney has provided for Obama to actually, clearly,

and compellingly level with 99% of all the Americans, 'poor',

'working-class' poor, and the only half that Mr. Hopey Changey ever

mentions to show them that they are ALL getting fucked by the very

same 1% ruling elite at the top of the EMPIRE that he also never

mentions! 

Best luck and love to the fast expanding "Occupy Empire"

educational and revolutionary movement against this well disguised

Global 1% Empire that doesn't wear Red Coats.

Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality.OverViolent/Vichy

IIEmpire,

Alan MacDonaldSanford, Maine

 

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Pete Nice
Pete Nice

The elderly pay taxes.  That is outright incorrect.  Social Security Retirement is taxed.

sacredh
sacredh

Romney. The best the republican party has to offer. Snicker.

Bronwyn Angel
Bronwyn Angel

Isn't it ironic that the 10 states in Red are a majority of REPUBLICAN voting states? 

sacredh
sacredh

No. It would have been my 1st guess. 2nd too. Probably third as well.

Bob Allen
Bob Allen

This piece of information is worthless.  It doesn't allow a conclusion to be drawn.  In other words, this is a statement "in mid-air that has no meaning"!

sacredh
sacredh

Mmmmmm.....wingnuts.

bzelbub
bzelbub

Hey kiddos, I pay my state and federal quarterly taxes as someone who is self employed.  I also get to pay my own payroll taxes and social security taxes. Since I live in Wisconsin where gas is now $3.97 a gallon I get to pay for that, 5.5% sales taxes,property taxes taxes taxes taxes, and when ever I think I'm getting ahead my tax preparer lets me know in her sweet little voice that NO, I will not get a check back from the IRS at the end of the year, because it is always a better idea to pay ahead for next year. Life is fun and then you die.

Brandt Hardin
Brandt Hardin

Is

there any doubt that a Romney administration would favor the rich and increase

the income gap in our country?  Mitt is a

pariah in Mormon Clothing and will stop at nothing to expand an empire of greed

for the rich in this country by expanding tax cuts for the 1% of the wealthiest

Americans.  He’s out to gut the Middle Class

for every red cent he can get.  Will his

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