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JohnYuEsq
JohnYuEsq

under a Romney administration, we are likely to see continued tax and regulatory benefits for the upper most strata income earners: the dreaded 1% who have managed to financially rape and pillage the rest of the country by usurping a majority of our national wealth.  This is the current situation and must no longer be tolerated.

Only President OBAMA and the Democrats PROTECT America's MIDDLE CLASS.  VOTE the DEMOCRATIC TICKET.

ahandout
ahandout

 Patrick, in the real world people work 8 hour days.

So, 6 hr x 180 = 1080 hours, and 1080 hours divided by 8 hrs = 135 days.

Or, go by the new hard work schedule.

7 hr x 180 = 1260 hours, and 1260 hours divided by 8 hrs = 158 days.

In the real world a union apprentice has to put in 2000 hours to get a years credit towards a four year apprenticeship.  By that schedule teachers would have to put in about 6.5 years to get enough hours to pass an apprenticeship.

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

" Patrick, in the real world people work 8 hour days."

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Yes, and in the real world teachers take more than 75 minutes to correct papers and plan lessons for students.

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Also, in the real world teachers have to be in the school with  no students for various other activities about ten days a year.

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So, 190 X 7 = 1,330 or about 66%  of a regular year.

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"...In the real world a union apprentice has to put in 2000 hours to get a years credit towards a four year apprenticeship."

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In the real world, teachers put in four years of formal education before day #1, electricians and plumbers put intwo years of education before they start and carpenters put in zero hours before they start day #1.  Many teachers - like most who make the top pay rate- have five years of education before day #1.

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Apples and oranges.

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An Army major must complete his college and graduate degree before basic training when they enter at o 1 if they were in the ROTC.

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Now, that's much more like an apple.

53underscore3
53underscore3

Looks like paulejb has two "stewdents" now.  Or is he starting a cult?

ahandout
ahandout

 Your are part of the hive cult, 53_3. 

MrObvious
MrObvious

Ah the hive, illustrated by diverse thoughts that disagree when the rightie induvidual bunch use same phraseeology, same links, no discerning ideas and always agree.

Yes, the big tent hive of dems welcomes the narrowminded rightie zombie pavlovian horde.

Welcome.

ahandout
ahandout

No wonder  she's angry.  She has to work over 5 hrs a day, 8 months out of the year for a mere ninety two thousand.

It's racist to make her work at all.

"Until recently, the CPS school day was a mere 5 hours and 45 minutes – ranking last among the 10 largest cities in the U.S."

http://media1.policymic.com/si...

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

One only needs to look at the teacher's records of educating the children to understand they are under worked and over paid.

Only 16% of 4th graders are proficient in reading.  Only 60% of seniors graduate from Chicago schools.  

Yes America, it is time for "change".  It's time we removed progressives from our schools and our government.

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

"She has to work over 5 hrs a day, 8 months out of the year for a mere ninety two thousand."

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5 hours and 45 minutes is rounded to 6, not 5.

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I guess that the free market ferries correct the papers and prepare her lesson plans for her?

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Make that 7 hours a day.

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180 school days is 36 weeks. That would be rounded to 9 months, not 8.

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Soldiers only are on duty 10 1/2 months per year with six weeks of leave.

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Army Majors (Rank o 5) with 20 years of experience don't make Ninety two thousand per year. They make 8199.30 a month or 98391.6 plus free benefits plus housing.

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http://www.militaryfactory.com...

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So, why aren't you, also, against the big paychecks for military people of equal or less education and the same number of years of work experience?

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Answer: you hate seeing the American dream being shared with other people via education.

ahandout
ahandout

 So, being a teacher in Chicago is like military duty. 

Patrick, you are obtuse.  I said OVER 5 hours a day.  And, teachers get every holiday off and two weeks at Christmas, plus 1 week at Spring break, plus 7 personal days.

You should remember, you did go to school?

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 " I said OVER 5 hours a day."

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And I said that, having had teachers in my family on and off since 1920s that, including correcting papers and so on that it would be SEVEN hours a day.

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" And, teachers get every holiday off"

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Okay, here is something called division.

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180 school days.

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Five days per school week.

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That makes 36 weeks.

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Teacher development days and retraining days about ten days.

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That makes 38 weeks.

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Army six weeks vacation plus unlimited sick days (so long as you are confined to quarters) free housing and benefits for life.

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That would 52 - 6 = 46 weeks.

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You're the Major in charge of the motor pool.  You work 8 hours per day.

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Ignoring sick days/ personal days then you have:

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7 hours per day for 190 days = 1,330 hours per year of teaching.

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40 hours per week 46 weeks per year = 1,840 for an Army major.

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Housing = about $ 30,000 per year. 

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Major gets $ 98,391.60 plus housing worth $ 30,000 per year = $ 128,391.60.

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 Experienced teacher gets 92,000(plus benefits)/1330 = $ 69.17 per hour, plus benefits.

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Major gets $ 128,391.60 (plus non-housing benefits)/ 1,840 = $ 69.78 per hour.

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When an officer deals with somebody who misbehaves, they can court marshal them. 

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When a student misbehaves, then the teacher has to stay with them after class for detention.

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I'd rather be a Major myself.

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Then again, how much do you get paid to be a major ahole online? 

ahandout
ahandout

No wonder she's angry.  She has to work over 5 hrs a day, 8 months out of the year for a mere $92,000.

Dam, it's racist to force her to work at all.

"Until recently, the CPS school day was a mere 5 hours and 45 minutes – ranking last among the 10 largest cities in the U.S."

http://media1.policymic.com/si...

ahandout
ahandout

 Obama and his boo God Democrats:

"Liberalism has everything turned on it head. It punishes achievement but

rewards failure. Liberal thought is often opposed to objective moral

values, is opposed to a moral authority above itself, and is thus

opposed to unalienable rights from God. Its theories are divisive,

promoting envy and covetousness among groups of people."

MrObvious
MrObvious

ahandout

Not everybody lives the kind of liberal fantasy lives that you portrait.

Seems like liberals here are better at the 'value' proposition then the righties. We've yet to find one rightie that stands by some form of integrity without having the ability to pivot 180 degrees dependent on how to attack liberals or Obama.

I find a surprising solid core of 'won't go there' among liberals here. But righties don't mind contorting their own views in order to defend Mitt and attack Obama.

Strange that; with integrity like that who need moral values.

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 " Liberal thought is often opposed to objective moral

values, is opposed to a moral authority above itself, and is thus

opposed to unalienable rights from God."

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I hope that you don't believe in the Christian God.

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naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’       41“Then

He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones,

into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his

angels; 42for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43I

was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not

clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44“Then

they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or

thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not

take care of You?’ 45“Then

He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did

not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46“These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

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http://biblebrowser.com/matthe...

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If you are a Christian, better get buried in your Summer clothes because eternal damnation, supposedly, can be a as hot as hell. 

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You might want to have some fire retardant clothing and a fire extinguisher, too.

ahandout
ahandout

 PS, you aren't rebutting the statement; you are changing the subject.  So, why copy and paste the quote?

Where was your morality when you backed Anthony the pervert Weiner all the way to the end?

And, there is nothing saintly about paying taxes to a government that threatens you with jail if you don't comply.

 

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 "So, why copy and paste the quote?"

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Disqus garbles things. This could end up a stand alone statement and you'd have no idea what I am replying to without my copying and pasting.

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"Where was your morality when you backed Anthony the pervert Weiner all the way to the end".

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Weiner exchanged photos for masturbation with women who sent him sexy pictures for masturbation. Indeed, inappropriate, but, as a heterosexual man, I can tell you that if it was not going to interfere with my work and if I were not in a committed relationship, I would consider responding to women sending me sexy pics the same way. 

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The Republicans have David Vitter as the standard for how low the bar is set for morality in our legislature.  Vitter was one thousand times more a pervert.

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"..there is nothing saintly about paying taxes...".

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I didn't say that there was.

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I said that there was something evil about voting for cutting programs to the hungry or voting for candidates based upon their plans to vote that way.

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You can still visit with the poor and imprisoned to save your soul even more, but, to take the food out of their mouth with your left hand and then serve it with a smirk at soup kitchen with your right hand is not moral even if you gave enough to make up for the lost money in food stamps. 

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Bear hugging pizza owner is now begging for people not to boycott his pizza parlor.

http://www.politico.com/news/s... 

Perhaps he should think about bear hugging before he does it.

LOL

MrObvious
MrObvious

That's righties for you; someone hugs the president and right away he's attacked for not hating enough.

No matter how you slice it; if anyone tries to go outside the rightie bubble that person is right away punished for doing so. That;s the party of no and hatred for you.

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

Perhaps people should stop treating the duly elected president and people who support him like foreign invaders and enjoy whatever food they like.

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My dry cleaner (Korean) had a couple of books of Glenn Beck around.  I could have boycotted him for the other three dry cleaners in my neighborhood, but, why be Richard (as in Cheney's nickname) when he is an excellent tailor and gets my clothes done well and on time?

outsider2011
outsider2011

This doesn't happen in firefox.

ahandout
ahandout

You having your own party there, outsider?

outsider2011
outsider2011

 It does seem so.

But it's not enjoyable.

outsider2011
outsider2011

I hate disqus.

What is all this stuff doing at the end of the thread?

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

"What is all this stuff doing at the end of the thread?"

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Even with Firefox, it happened to me yesterday. 

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It's disqusting.

ahandout
ahandout

Liberals say public employee union good.  Good for stewdents.  All liberalls smart as tack.

Chicago schools are horrible.  Yet, the teachers receive $92,000 annually in compensation for failure and they want 30% more.

15% of 4th graders are proficient readers.

Graduation failure rate is 40%.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/...

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 " Good for stewdents. "

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Who is Stew Dents?

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Friend of yours or just the a part of the right wing hatred of the English language?

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

 Anyone ever mention that you are a moron, ahandout?

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ahandout
ahandout

In your twisted mind, you believe that wanting better schools and teachers is bigoted.  You should ask for a refund on that "free" education.

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 "In your twisted mind, you believe that wanting better schools and teachers is bigoted"

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So, I guess you want to stop funding the DoD so that we can have better national defense.

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We should, also, stop paying CEOs or put a high tax on their income to make them do a better job, too, right?

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How about we cut the pay for cops and prison guards, too?

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Pay less = higher quality?

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You hate paying your share and opening up the American dream to others through education. If you really believed that cutting wages would make things better, you would want to cut the defense budget and everything else, too.

ahandout
ahandout

You sure you understood what I posted? 

I guess that is the caring  liberal side of you responding. 

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Anyone ever mention you are an A-hole?

ahandout
ahandout

LL, it's just the public education indoctrination talking.

Not being able to comprehend what you read is IF's problem.  Maybe he should take a remedial course in Chicago's school system.   I mean, this looks like a nice teacher for him.

http://media1.policymic.com/si...

PatrickSartor
PatrickSartor

 Did anybody tell you that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being, Rustburket?

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Actually, you get told that day in and out online and offline, but, you just won't stop posting and being a shthead. 

outsider2011
outsider2011

Well writen, Ivy. Rusty is just being obt - well, Rusty.

outsider2011
outsider2011

That makes way too much sense man - what are you thinking?

outsider2011
outsider2011

Definitely not debased - has a far too strong negative connotation.